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So that because Sweden is so secular, most of your people are secular and atheists.

Refuting evolution is correlated with the religiosity of the society.

Conservative americans remind me much of the conservative communities here in the middle east - they have almost the same views regarding things like evolution, abortion and gays.

In 2008 the best known American polling organisation, Gallup, sampled national opinion in the USA with these questions:

"Which of the following statements comes closest to your views on the origin and development of human beings?

1. Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God guided this process (36% chose this)

2. Human beings have developed over millions of years from less advanced forms of life, but God had no part in this process
(14% chose this)

3. God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so.
(44% chose this).

I assume that the 3rd choice, the majority, are creationists of one stripe or another. The figures astonish me, and they are consistent with previous polls earlier in the 21st century.

Jesus christ...

That's absolutely insane.

Not to get off topic too much, but this can't be real, can it? I know as a Canadian I have met some very religious people and they all accept evolution. People who believe in the 'creationist' model are generally thought to be strange to put it politely.

Back to the topic at hand, sly279 I have seen guys in worse shape than you land relationships. In fact, that's why it made even harder for me: I had the job, had the car, had the apartment, had the height and still could not find love yet these guys in similar situations to you seemed to land GFs almost effortlessly.

You shoudn't forget that the Roman Catholic church has by far a more progressive stance regarding evolution.

Europe is Catholic-dominated, except UK and some scandenivian countries, but those latter aren't religious countries anymore.

While the US is largely a protestant/evangelical culture.

Protestant churches have more radical views regarding evolution and sciences; and slower to accept modern science (I think most flat eaethers are of the Protestant churches too), I think?

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I would say most people who have gone to post-secondary education accept evolution as pretty much a fact----even amid an unalterable belief in God.

My biology teacher back in high school taught about evolution, I remember well it was the 2nd section' of the biology book making about 1/4 about 2 or 3 chapters.
I remember she told us the government decided not to include it in the official exams (because it's a 'controversial' topic) but she will give it to us anyway because "it would be incomplete without it" she said.
What's interesting that this teacher was veiled though.

That was like 18 years ago.

I've had many reasonable discussions with women who wear veils.

Have you ever talked to creationists? I’ve mettt professors as well as seen creationist scientists on tv. I find super Christians and athiest tske the Bible too literally. The world was created in 7 days. What’s a day to god? Gods not human. He doesn’t follow the earth day we created for ourselves. A day to god could be billions of years.
The difference between evolutionist and creationist is simply that god caused it vs no one caused it cause they don’t believe in god. Most science is quite in line with Christianity. A lot of advancements have be made by creationist scientists.

Probably smooth talking non aspies. Snake oil salesmen type people can talk their way into anything. My biological father is a horrible person like super horrible. He never has problems talking his way into jobs and relations. Even if they don’t last from what I hear. He was a used car salesmen.

When I was a kid people said I was good at selling stuff but it was probably fake kindness to a kid. As an adult I’m quite shy. Years of bullying and rejection have made me shy. I’m not that aspie who just talks to strangers anymore.

So it’s hard for me to sale myself or fake being better then I am. I don’t lie much. Half truths are still lies. From my experience other men in my situation tell half lies to sell themselves to women. They talk themselves up a lot , they more social and outgoing too. So yes I suppose it’s technically possible for someone in my situation to go to bars and such and tell half truths and get a gf. It’s not something I a shy aspie who won’t lie can do.

If asked about work I’m sure such guys would say they self employed(unemployed),
Or if like me they’d say I work in an exciting outdoors field(outdoor retail store) it’s a half truth, half lie.

How without lying would you suggest I go about it?
Mind you the lady at work had to ask me what’s you say a lot. That’s how shy I am that I talk quiet without knowing it.

Sigh. Christianity is centralised in main beliefs - like the immaculate conception, resurrection - I respect that people can choose to believe these as miracles, but science is highly sceptical. Talk to some scientists, the creationists seem to have misled you.

sly, there's no movement called "Evolutionism" - not in this century at least.

The term "evolutionist" is a degrading term that creationists use to scientists; as if evolution is a kind of unsupported belief.

Scientists "believe" in evolution due to the tons of evidences; it is the backbone of the biology science.

I find it very strange. The protestants used to be the progressive modern ones and the Catholics used to be the dogmatic old fogies.

Nowadays it's the other way 'round.

I wonder what happened to cause this reversal.

chrsitians said the same thing in the mid evil times. Sorry but I’ll keep calling people who believe in pure evolution that.
There’s micro and macro evolution. There isn’t any proof we evolved from aps hench the missing link search. We share common dna which just proves we are similar to them. Over time animals do adapt to their surroundings=micro evolution.

Can’t prove the Big Bang theory either. Theories aren’t facts. We as humans don’t know much and we probably never know a lot including how we came about. Not unless someone travels back in time with a camera. Even then the Big Bang could just been god. We don’t lnow what god is or looks like or how his actions appear to us. Descriptions in the Bible are purely humans giving god human form so we can view him from a view we understand. God created aliens too. They probably view god as looking like whatever form they are.

Also there is too a evolution movement . Evolution doesn’t equal science and science doesn’t equal evolution. That’s what I hate about atheists you all assume science is on your side and only atheist can be scieniests hate to break it to you a lot of Christians including creationists are scientists. They’ve discovered a lot of stuff and invented stuff too. They study the Universe too.

You thinking of super Christians that like you atheist take the Bible literally. The Bible was written by imperfect humans with agendas and based off human views of the universe. Not like god dropped the Bible out of the sky one day. The Catholic Church in all its corruption sat down and decided what would get in and what would be removed. Doubt god had anything to do with that. Or that they require their followers to pay them money to go to heaven. Does that sound like Jesus? Nope. Humans are biased and corrupt. Going to hell for smoking or drinking isn’t what Jesus was about either.

Catholic church’s in America are still dogmatic old fogies and they like to sexual abuse children just like politicians lol
They have to knee in service and confess their sins to a priest for forgiveness. Only god can give forgiveness not some human priest. They also require tidings even if you can’t afford it.