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To understand why I have this belief, check this thread:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005
And check the legendary conclusion post by Janissy (Her post is enlightening on this subject viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005&start=105) :
Janissy wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A while ago I did a regional tinder experiment:
http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewt ... p?t=275336
and it was repeated later (I tried Meghreb and Europe), I got exactly the same results as ~4 months ago: http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewt ... &start=450.
Just to explain what's tinder to those who don't know: it's a kind of Hot or not app, you see a pic of someone of the opposite sex and you either tap like or not then you see the next guy/girl....etc, the person who likes you back will be a match and you can chat with her/him.
I get loads of matches in Meghreb and they often call me "beau gosse"; and same in most Asian countries; by loads of Matches I mean by 100+ in few days, you can see numbers in first link.
This is a screenshot when I faked my location as Morocco:
My results can be summed as:
-Insane number of matches in Meghreb (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria); like 60+ out of 100 in second tryout in Morocco.
-Similarly insane number of matches in Asian countries.
-Horribly low number of matches in White-dominated countries, even some Zeros in countries like Germany and Ukraine although there's a high Tinder activity there (log histories on their profile show last x hours, last x minutes active...etc), got only few matches with Asian-looking and darkish girls.
-In mixed areas like the some states in US, I get only few matches with minorities of people of color, Blacks, Arabs and Persians in particular despite most profiles swiped weren't of those, the very few blondes I got matched with seem to have Italian fetish because they all thought I am Italian.
Imagine the impact difference: If I was in Meghreb or Asian country I would be have the choice to date someone I pick (out of the many matches who btw...always respond to messages) every weekend and I would have to filter through and that's from the Tinder app only, while if I was in Ukraine or Germany, I would be thankful with whatever Match I get there because virtually almost none is liking me back there.
However, this thread is not to discuss Tinder again, but:
My tinder experiments made me question the women's degree of individualism when it comes to what they find attractive (and what's not). (men are probably the same according to this okcupid experiment http://jonmillward.com/blog/attraction- ... xperiment/)
Doesn't this experiment expose that people are NOT that individualistic when it comes to their taste in the opposite sex? I mean how else can you explain that the same person is seen highly attractive by the majority of one community but totally not in another?
As if each community follow some bible of what's attractive and what's not they all collectively follow
, it's so insane. As if the local culture and others' tastes is the biggest factor in this.
I mean, if t was like 10+ or few matches out 100 all across all the countries, then that may mean that opinions are individualist.
Imagine if one is born and living in an area where he's not seen conventionally attractive by the majority (often almost all according to this experiment, it's either all or none) then he might really end up alone.
So yeah, ladies, I really now doubt your individualism when it comes to what you call "my type" and "not my type"; according to this experiment, it should be phrased "You're (not) what_the_majority_of_women_here's type" or simply "You are (Not) OUR type" - Borg hive-mind style....I really doubt how this "My" is really My.
http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewt ... p?t=275336
and it was repeated later (I tried Meghreb and Europe), I got exactly the same results as ~4 months ago: http://www.wrongplanet.net/forums/viewt ... &start=450.
Just to explain what's tinder to those who don't know: it's a kind of Hot or not app, you see a pic of someone of the opposite sex and you either tap like or not then you see the next guy/girl....etc, the person who likes you back will be a match and you can chat with her/him.
I get loads of matches in Meghreb and they often call me "beau gosse"; and same in most Asian countries; by loads of Matches I mean by 100+ in few days, you can see numbers in first link.
This is a screenshot when I faked my location as Morocco:
My results can be summed as:
-Insane number of matches in Meghreb (Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria); like 60+ out of 100 in second tryout in Morocco.
-Similarly insane number of matches in Asian countries.
-Horribly low number of matches in White-dominated countries, even some Zeros in countries like Germany and Ukraine although there's a high Tinder activity there (log histories on their profile show last x hours, last x minutes active...etc), got only few matches with Asian-looking and darkish girls.
-In mixed areas like the some states in US, I get only few matches with minorities of people of color, Blacks, Arabs and Persians in particular despite most profiles swiped weren't of those, the very few blondes I got matched with seem to have Italian fetish because they all thought I am Italian.
Imagine the impact difference: If I was in Meghreb or Asian country I would be have the choice to date someone I pick (out of the many matches who btw...always respond to messages) every weekend and I would have to filter through and that's from the Tinder app only, while if I was in Ukraine or Germany, I would be thankful with whatever Match I get there because virtually almost none is liking me back there.
However, this thread is not to discuss Tinder again, but:
My tinder experiments made me question the women's degree of individualism when it comes to what they find attractive (and what's not). (men are probably the same according to this okcupid experiment http://jonmillward.com/blog/attraction- ... xperiment/)
Doesn't this experiment expose that people are NOT that individualistic when it comes to their taste in the opposite sex? I mean how else can you explain that the same person is seen highly attractive by the majority of one community but totally not in another?
As if each community follow some bible of what's attractive and what's not they all collectively follow
, it's so insane. As if the local culture and others' tastes is the biggest factor in this. I mean, if t was like 10+ or few matches out 100 all across all the countries, then that may mean that opinions are individualist.
Imagine if one is born and living in an area where he's not seen conventionally attractive by the majority (often almost all according to this experiment, it's either all or none) then he might really end up alone.
So yeah, ladies, I really now doubt your individualism when it comes to what you call "my type" and "not my type"; according to this experiment, it should be phrased "You're (not) what_the_majority_of_women_here's type" or simply "You are (Not) OUR type" - Borg hive-mind style
....I really doubt how this "My" is really My.Those are some fascinating regional differences you found. It really does point to a strong cultural influence on who we consider attractive.
When I was young (and I'm talking in the early teens, 13 or 14) girls in groups would compare the boys of our school (as well as celebrities from movies/TV) against each other. Boys with certain features (look of hair, of face, of carrying himself etc.) were on the "approved" list of boys to have crushes on. If you had a crush on a boy who did not have at least one of these features, you got shamed by the girls unless you could come up with a redeeming feature that would make up for his lack of other accepted features; plays guitar, has traveled to a another country(which was a big deal in the U.S. because other countries were unattainably distant unless you lived on the Mexican or Canadian border), has an amazing and obscure yet cool skill. Wealth did not factor in because it was a public school attended entirely by kids of the same socioeconomic slice of the middle class so we all shared economic class.
It was some pretty intense social pressure to find certain features attractive. I succumbed to it and would hide crushes on "unacceptable" boys while faking crushes on "acceptable" boys. That sort of pressure let up with age but I think it leaves its' mark.
While the things we found attractive were probably particular to our region (as you discovered), I really doubt that the female social pressure was unique. Girls, especially girls in the 12-15 bracket age, can exert some really fierce peer pressure. This would inevitably freeze out a small handful of male pariahs who didn't have either any of the "hot" traits or any of the traits that were accepted stand-ins for "hot" (if you were ugly but spoke fluent French, you were golden- that lucky boy). Even girls who rebelliously went for out-group boys ("those girls can't tell me what to do") still went for boys with some standout "cool" characteristic (even if it wasn't physical attractiveness) and the pariahs remained pariahs. I would bet lots of money that girls from Morocco to Russia to anywhere in the world have convened the same girl groups to arrive at what the local definition of "hot" will be.
As you discovered, that definition of what is "hot" varies pretty wildly but I suspect the way of arriving at it does not. There really is a local consensus formed in early girlhood of what "attractive" shall be. Even the girls who actively ignore it are still aware of it and aware they are ignoring it (or perhaps rebelling against it).
I suppose a take home lesson for men here is that your fortunes can change by moving. It now occurs to me that some men here have complained that they only get positive attention on dating sites from women very geographically far from them. They curse the terrible luck but perhaps it is showing how regional their perceived unattractiveness may be.
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