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19 May 2020, 12:21 pm

And any sufficiently advanced nonsense is indistinguishable from technology, which kind of puts us all back at square one, except for the people buying into said nonsense.


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20 May 2020, 9:52 pm

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I notice that non-tech people think of us as magicians and mind-readers.

It’s frustrating.


I'm sorry that happens. It is unfair.


It's not that people seeing technology as magic is offensive or anything, if anything that's flattering, the problem is that this mindset kind of ignores the human aspects of our work & how connected everyone is to it. Drawing too many distinctions around techies has really isolated a lot of us. Seeing our work as supernatural retooling of miracles has led to us being seen as a different kind of people.

The human part of me isn't.


Tech people even do that about other tech people.


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20 May 2020, 10:08 pm

You've got a point there, it's a culture that's been intensified inside & outside the tech world.

I'm not really sure what else to say to that, time to think.


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21 May 2020, 6:26 am

I just said that because I'm frustrated with my work. It's like my supervisors always expect me to be a mind reader. If we have trouble with something and then eventually a solution is found, they say "Why didn't you try that first?" Well it's easy to say that after the solution has been found.

It's worse now that I'm on phone support. They also expect me to be a mind reader in regards to the customer. Meanwhile the customers want me to fix systems that my supervisors haven't given me access to. Both customers and supervisors want me to give precise ETAs for future events (let me just check using my time machine).


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21 May 2020, 7:48 am

In my work, which is a far cry from tech, there are people who think I am an angel. They think that because I get them the help they need. And that I can navigate the process better than almost anyone else in my work, with the exception of a couple of my team.

So people think I am an angel. When I worked in hospice, people also thought I was an angel. I'm not an angel and what I do is not magic, but people who can't see what I am doing, still think that way.

It makes me uncomfortable and I have found a way to respond that is, I think, appropriate and consistent with my world view. But that that is a different topic.

The point is, this tendency to see something as magic occurs in more situations than tech.


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22 May 2020, 2:00 pm

Perhaps some troubles of mine stem from interpreting people as such, but I'm not sure I ever exactly saw it that way. My brain is a mixed bag.


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22 May 2020, 11:08 pm

Well at least my friend finally showed me an online PC game I can concertedly waste time inside. If only the alpha builds would stop crashing, I'd see everyone on the other side.


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22 May 2020, 11:13 pm

What game is it?


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22 May 2020, 11:34 pm

$3200 worth of a professional 3D nut's laptop won't run this thing.

I'm playing Star Citizen, in which one must avoid many space pirates. Just kidding, but my friend got into the server.


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22 May 2020, 11:37 pm

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In my work, which is a far cry from tech, there are people who think I am an angel. They think that because I get them the help they need. And that I can navigate the process better than almost anyone else in my work, with the exception of a couple of my team.

So people think I am an angel. When I worked in hospice, people also thought I was an angel. I'm not an angel and what I do is not magic, but people who can't see what I am doing, still think that way.

It makes me uncomfortable and I have found a way to respond that is, I think, appropriate and consistent with my world view. But that that is a different topic.

The point is, this tendency to see something as magic occurs in more situations than tech.


I don't believe in dogmatism, I'm a pastafarian stoner agnostic, although I find the concept of hell particularly unbelievable. I mean who believes in BS? Is belief in the diametric opposite central to Christian beliefs in divinity?

Maybe my agnosticism reads as too much uncertainty, since I'm something of a village shaman type. I strive to be a very simple person who can actually convey affection, however awkwardly.


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23 May 2020, 7:43 am

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I don't believe in dogmatism, I'm a pastafarian stoner agnostic, although I find the concept of hell particularly unbelievable. I mean who believes in BS? Is belief in the diametric opposite central to Christian beliefs in divinity?

Maybe my agnosticism reads as too much uncertainty, since I'm something of a village shaman type. I strive to be a very simple person who can actually convey affection, however awkwardly.

Once you try to see life as being afterlife you'll notice that it's a lot up to you to suffer and make it your own hell or to make it a heaven you are living in now. You should stop to make your life your own hell and retry to become more curious about the world again. Life can be really great. :mrgreen:

Women are really calculating towards guys except they crush on you. You are lacking empathy? So what. Just realize that the way you are is what counts for most people. Don't dress like somebody who is hating himself, care about eye contact and keep a bright mood and a natural smile while talking, don't try to hide once you feel positive about them and express a bit of selfconfidence about who you are and what you are able to. NTs - especially women - are very emotional driven and do sense your emotions as well. Just realize it and learn to deal with it instead of ranting about how mean the world is. :twisted: Women do notice your emotions and once you feel and act like a looser most won't like you. A guy who is that way has been always a bad choice for a girl. Most people - especially women - are emotional still a lot like it was advantageous in stoneage. Just realize it and learn to deal with it! You can do better. :wink:


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23 May 2020, 2:04 pm

Now that I'm wondering what I'm actually reincarnated from, I can wake up to do almost nothing woth my quarantine weekend! :lol:

I don't like to dress flashy at all, could use new clothes though. Blehhh... Expensive...




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23 May 2020, 5:31 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
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I don't believe in dogmatism, I'm a pastafarian stoner agnostic, although I find the concept of hell particularly unbelievable. I mean who believes in BS? Is belief in the diametric opposite central to Christian beliefs in divinity?

Maybe my agnosticism reads as too much uncertainty, since I'm something of a village shaman type. I strive to be a very simple person who can actually convey affection, however awkwardly.

Once you try to see life as being afterlife you'll notice that it's a lot up to you to suffer and make it your own hell or to make it a heaven you are living in now. You should stop to make your life your own hell and retry to become more curious about the world again. Life can be really great. :mrgreen:

Women are really calculating towards guys except they crush on you. You are lacking empathy? So what. Just realize that the way you are is what counts for most people. Don't dress like somebody who is hating himself, care about eye contact and keep a bright mood and a natural smile while talking, don't try to hide once you feel positive about them and express a bit of selfconfidence about who you are and what you are able to. NTs - especially women - are very emotional driven and do sense your emotions as well. Just realize it and learn to deal with it instead of ranting about how mean the world is. :twisted: Women do notice your emotions and once you feel and act like a looser most won't like you. A guy who is that way has been always a bad choice for a girl. Most people - especially women - are emotional still a lot like it was advantageous in stoneage. Just realize it and learn to deal with it! You can do better. :wink:
For whatever it's worth I'm reasonably secure in my work & professional ability lately. I'm constantly learning about computing & it's pretty lucrative, even though I'm still technically interning for now. My group even managed to scout a few more people & I have what should be a good review coming up. I can help with tech problems without even talking to people directly pretty often.

I often worry I'm not much good for anything else but I know that's not realistic.


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23 May 2020, 6:27 pm

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I don't like to dress flashy at all, could use new clothes though. Blehhh... Expensive...

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For whatever it's worth I'm reasonably secure in my work & professional ability lately. I'm constantly learning about computing & it's pretty lucrative, even though I'm still technically interning for now. My group even managed to scout a few more people & I have what should be a good review coming up. I can help with tech problems without even talking to people directly pretty often.


Nobody notices your success if it's not a visible one and good clothes of visibly high quality aren't really expensive except you are into designer labels. But you can be sure that nearly nobody beside of teenagers really cares such labels and even teenager girls care more your overall style and behaviour then the labels on your clothes. :wink: Better you are looking for quality and nice design instead for labels.
You shouldn't buy clothes to blend in among people but to show that you can effort a good style. You are are afraid of being overdressed? Hey - people with Asperger's are different and you are ruled out as soon as you are trying to blend in. Better others notice you as a bit extravagant then as an unsure, boring and nerdy looser. Be sure that women do care your clothes as well as guys do. For many girls it's quite important at first sight that you are visibly better dressed than an average guy. Also at work will people treat you different as soon as you dress a bit nicer. Of course I don't know how you are dressing already... :wink: :mrgreen:


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24 May 2020, 3:38 am

Well I'm doing some shopping online to replace a few old things although being frugal has served me pretty well financially. I'll be getting new glasses sooner or later when I actually feel like going to the optometrist, I picked out some frames. I guess I can stand to replace the cutoff shorts I ride mountain bikes in for the everyday, at least I picked up some stylish cyclist stuff & better normal pants. I'm pretty tough on clothes living in Colorado.

Outdoor stuff > fancypants stuff. I don't mind looking sharp but looking ostentatious is out of character for me.


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24 May 2020, 5:16 am

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I don't mind looking sharp but looking ostentatious is out of character for me.

It's not what I was talking about. Nice cargo jeans or jeans of visibly higher quality then the average cheap ones and a shirt or T-shirt which aren't just looking shabby and like the revenge of a discounter will do. Same for shoes. It's not expensive to dress well and nearly everybody can efford it. :wink: Most women care a lot about clothes at first sight. Guess it's part of the social hierarchy thing that they are into.


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