WHAT ARE YOUR DEAL BREAKERS WHEN IT COMES TO RELATIONSHIPS?

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14 Sep 2015, 8:28 am

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Last time I checked, someones cultural beliefs are vitally important to the stability of the relationship.


The stability of NT relationships? Perhaps that has no relevance at all to the stability of ND relationships?

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Gender roles and the existence or lack of them. How to raise potential children. What you'll teach those children about religion/spirituality and what you expect out of your partner religiously. And supposed "lack" of culture is a culture all on it's own too.


I'm an atheist and wife is Christian, and it works. I don't see why it wouldn't.



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14 Sep 2015, 8:41 am

Same here. My wife's a Christian and I'm an atheist.



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14 Sep 2015, 8:45 am

It wouldn't work well if she believes that you deserve to be burned forever.



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14 Sep 2015, 8:52 am

rdos wrote:
Feyokien wrote:
Last time I checked, someones cultural beliefs are vitally important to the stability of the relationship.


The stability of NT relationships? Perhaps that has no relevance at all to the stability of ND relationships?

Feyokien wrote:
Gender roles and the existence or lack of them. How to raise potential children. What you'll teach those children about religion/spirituality and what you expect out of your partner religiously. And supposed "lack" of culture is a culture all on it's own too.


I'm an atheist and wife is Christian, and it works. I don't see why it wouldn't.

Do you have children yet? Also is your wife just christian or is she really Christian and goes to church every Sunday and expects that you should too.

Kraft I know you don't have any children and same question about what level is she actually Christian.

Because being a lax new age christian that doesn't believe in hell is basically just being spiritual and can be compatible with Atheism.



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14 Sep 2015, 8:53 am

She believes, sometimes, that I my mouth should disappear--otherwise, I don't think she minds that I'm alive :P

She's not very stridently Christian, though she has a strong faith in God. She also has some belief in some Caribbean-type superstitions.



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14 Sep 2015, 8:58 am

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It wouldn't work well if she believes that you deserve to be burned forever.


It's a matter of respect. I've been with wife in church even if I don't believe in the Bible. In fact, you cannot truly be an atheist if you haven't studied and understood at least one religion. Besides, as an atheist it doesn't matter if she thinks I deserve to burn or not since I don't believe anybody will get burned anyway. It's all fairy tales that won't happen.

That being said, I think it is possible to use and accept the moral stuff from Christian faith even when one doesn't accept the other stuff.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:02 am

rdos wrote:
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It wouldn't work well if she believes that you deserve to be burned forever.


It's a matter of respect. I've been with wife in church even if I don't believe in the Bible. In fact, you cannot truly be an atheist if you haven't studied and understood at least one religion. Besides, as an atheist it doesn't matter if she thinks I deserve to burn or not since I don't believe anybody will get burned anyway. It's all fairy tales that won't happen.

That being said, I think it is possible to use and accept the moral stuff from Christian faith even when one doesn't accept the other stuff.


The kind of Church also matters as well, is it a well established denomination like Catholicism and Lutheranism or is it one of those new free range churches that are basically congregations of spiritual people.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:05 am

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Do you have children yet?


Yes, three.

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Also is your wife just christian or is she really Christian and goes to church every Sunday and expects that you should too.


It has varied. At some point it was very often, but now it is very infrequent.

OTOH, I'm only an atheist in the sense that I don't believe in mainstream religion. I do have other spiritual beliefs.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:10 am

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The kind of Church also matters as well, is it a well established denomination like Catholicism and Lutheranism or is it one of those new free range churches that are basically congregations of spiritual people.


It's somewhere in between. It's not the established Lutheranism, but it is not one of those odd churches either, and the denomination is quite old and not new age.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:18 am

I am a strong Christian. I think it is very important when you are young and inexperienced to be married to someone of the same faith, especially with the potential for children. I think it is important for parents to be united in how they raise children, and spirituality is part of that. (Now, some people I know raise their children sort of "bi-lingual" in a religious sort of way, but that wouldn't work for me.)

But now that I'm older, if I were married to an atheist, I probably wouldn't care. I don't think it would affect my religious beliefs as long as he was respectful, and as long as I was respectful that he didn't share them. But I know too many atheists who are not respectful, and Christians who aren't either. Would I *hope* that my husband would believe? Of course. But I wouldn't push it. I would quietly live my life and let things happen as they may.

But that is all hypothetical because I am married to a Christian man.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:20 am

I'm an atheist. I think you have lots of good qualities, Nerdygirl. Part of this "goodness" might be due to you adopting the ethics of Christianity. Thus, if we were married (hypothetically), ethics would be part of our bond.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:26 am

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I don't think it would affect my religious beliefs as long as he was respectful, and as long as I was respectful that he didn't share them. But I know too many atheists who are not respectful, and Christians who aren't either. Would I *hope* that my husband would believe? Of course. But I wouldn't push it. I would quietly live my life and let things happen as they may.


Yes, that's kind of my view too, and it applies to many more things than just religion. If you merge your interests too much in the beginning you won't even know if your partner is respectful when you do end up with different positions, which is inevitable at some point. So I'd say people should have some non-similar views to start with just so they can check their skills at compromising.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:54 am

rdos wrote:
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Do you have children yet?


Yes, three.

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Also is your wife just christian or is she really Christian and goes to church every Sunday and expects that you should too.


It has varied. At some point it was very often, but now it is very infrequent.

OTOH, I'm only an atheist in the sense that I don't believe in mainstream religion. I do have other spiritual beliefs.
Ah so you're the spiritual agnostic type, that is closer to more formal religions than a hardcore atheist would be so the relationship does make sense. It's not the same thing as say a Muslim and a Christian trying to have a stable relationship with children. My parents actually had the same type of relationship as you and your wife did, up till their divorce anyways, but that was for reasons unrelated to religion. Is it a Methodist church?



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14 Sep 2015, 9:56 am

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If you merge your interests too much in the beginning you won't even know if your partner is respectful when you do end up with different positions, which is inevitable at some point. So I'd say people should have some non-similar views to start with just so they can check their skills at compromising.


I think that way as well also, it does help to have some differences, I believe I phrased it as "bringing something new into the relationship". Gives it a direction of potential growth.



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14 Sep 2015, 9:57 am

rdos wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It wouldn't work well if she believes that you deserve to be burned forever.


Besides, as an atheist it doesn't matter if she thinks I deserve to burn or not since I don't believe anybody will get burned anyway. It's all fairy tales that won't happen.


You've missed my whole point, it's about respect like you said:
It would impossible for her to respect you as a human being equal to Christians you if she really believes in that, no matter how forgiving she is.



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14 Sep 2015, 10:22 am

I guess I would fall within the "hard core" atheist category.