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02 Nov 2017, 2:17 pm

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http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/gender-01222015125826.html
There are 33 million more men than women in China.

But, in the USA, there are 157 million women and 152 million men according to the 2010 Census.

Still leaves 20ish million more men then women in the rest of the world.

Yes and most those excess women are back east in cities like newyork.
New York City alone has 420,000 more women then men.
Lucky those men
No wonder kraftiekortie had such good luck.



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02 Nov 2017, 2:43 pm

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That's because they killed so many female infants.

Those numbers are birth rates,before the females are killed.
The logic is more men are born cause men are more likely to die then women in the past, so natural makes more of them, but now with modern science and equality men don’t die as much, women now also die in combat.



You don't seem aware of the companion policy of forced termination for Chinese couples who already had one child. That was the law until very recently there, and was for many years, and it certainly affected the rates of female to males in the Chinese population.

It is senseless to base dating arguments on that data.



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02 Nov 2017, 4:01 pm

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That's because they killed so many female infants.

Those numbers are birth rates,before the females are killed.
The logic is more men are born cause men are more likely to die then women in the past, so natural makes more of them, but now with modern science and equality men don’t die as much, women now also die in combat.



You don't seem aware of the companion policy of forced termination for Chinese couples who already had one child. That was the law until very recently there, and was for many years, and it certainly affected the rates of female to males in the Chinese population.

It is senseless to base dating arguments on that data.

Im aware of the one child polcy it was fought about through middle and high school.

We are talking about the worlds population. If you take out China there’s still 20million excess men in the world. According to btdts 33million more men in China. I’ll give you China has it worse then any other nation.
Probably doesn’t help that Chinese women also date foreigners. Also not all female Chinese children were killed many were adopted out. My high school teacher took a month off to go to China to adopt his daughter.



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02 Nov 2017, 5:24 pm

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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.



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02 Nov 2017, 5:32 pm

Thread title has come a long way to nowhere relevant, which is not unusual in this forum. Once one or more posters totally lock into a lateral and dogmatic (and often irrelevant) position, threads derail and become back and forth contests of repetition that goes nowhere.



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02 Nov 2017, 5:34 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.


A one percent difference is just about statistical noise.


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02 Nov 2017, 5:36 pm

B19 wrote:
Thread title has come a long way to nowhere relevant, which is not unusual in this forum. Once one or more posters totally lock into a lateral and dogmatic (and often irrelevant) position, threads derail and become back and forth contests of repetition that goes nowhere.


That's the internet for ya. Lots of dogma.


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02 Nov 2017, 5:49 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.


Not really, probably wise, It's 105 boys to 100 girls are being bord
worldwide even in developed countries, excluding the selective abortion cases.

The humans have evolved in a way....that more males are supposed to die young, in hunting and in fighting other men; so this skewed ratio is evolutionary advantageous to keep the gender balance in adulthood, but we advanced so fast and men are suriving better.

There are also other factors: Y sperma swim faster, while X sperma lives longer in the womb; so the timing of copulation(vis-à-vis the menstrual cycle) affects the chances whether will have a boy or a girl.

There's a theory saying that couples who have very frequent sex are more likely to have girls because more constant stored sperm all the time, and X sperma survive longer (so the moment she ovulates, the winner is more likely to be a X).



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02 Nov 2017, 5:50 pm

I guess saying there are more men in the world is now the new excuse for getting nowhere in online dating, instead of “The problem is me”.

There is a man drought in New Zealand. There are significantly more women than men. But guys still can’t get replies on online dating sites.

There is no more chance of being born a male. None. No confirmed and proven data to back that up.

No one is saying biology is fair. Look at lions. One male mates with as many females he wants. Females and males both have their benefits and low points in all species.

But producing straw man arguments for your lack of success is ridiculous.



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02 Nov 2017, 5:51 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.


Not really, probably wise, It's 105 boys to 100 girls are being bord
worldwide even in developed countries, excluding the selective abortion cases.

The humans have evolved in a way....that more males are supposed to die young, in hunting and in fighting other men; so this skewed ratio is evolutionary advantageous to keep the gender balance in adulthood, but we advanced so fast and men are suriving better.

There are also other factors: Y sperma swim faster, while X sperma lives longer in the womb; so the timing of copulation(vis-à-vis the menstrual cycle) affects the chances whether will have a boy or a girl.

There's a theory saying that couples who have very frequent sex are more likely to have girls because more constant stored sperm all the time, and X sperma survive longer (so the moment she ovulates, the winner is more likely to be a X).


Do you have any actual evidence and statistics to back that up? There are a lot of theories, but the bell curve is still pretty even. 105 to 100 is extremely close. There’s also another theory that male sperm don’t like the heat, so you would think with global warming, they’d be less common. But there is no hard evidence on these theories on whether they actually skew the balance. Your numbers prove that.



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02 Nov 2017, 6:02 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.


Not really, probably wise, It's 105 boys to 100 girls are being bord
worldwide even in developed countries, excluding the selective abortion cases.

The humans have evolved in a way....that more males are supposed to die young, in hunting and in fighting other men; so this skewed ratio is evolutionary advantageous to keep the gender balance in adulthood, but we advanced so fast and men are suriving better.

There are also other factors: Y sperma swim faster, while X sperma lives longer in the womb; so the timing of copulation(vis-à-vis the menstrual cycle) affects the chances whether will have a boy or a girl.

There's a theory saying that couples who have very frequent sex are more likely to have girls because more constant stored sperm all the time, and X sperma survive longer (so the moment she ovulates, the winner is more likely to be a X).


Do you have any actual evidence and statistics to back that up? There are a lot of theories, but the bell curve is still pretty even. 105 to 100 is extremely close. There’s also another theory that male sperm don’t like the heat, so you would think with global warming, they’d be less common. But there is no hard evidence on these theories on whether they actually skew the balance. Your numbers prove that.



Search it.

105:100 makes actually a lot of male excess on large scale.

The reason why people assume that it's 50-50 is because X spermas and Y spermas are almost 50-50 in testes; but that doesn't mean the birth rate will be 50-50.



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02 Nov 2017, 6:31 pm

Oh joy, a blatant generalist sexist topic in a self-help forum. Like actually asking for help would actually be productive. What specific thing are we trying to help with again? Validating our rage against something. Life isn’t that complicated, people try to make their way based on whats available too them. The whole point about letting people make their own decisions is not all information is available to you.

Loke abunch of aspies are any good at knowing what another person feels. :lol:

Maybe people would actually figure something out for a change if we didn’t let something like this stay up.



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02 Nov 2017, 7:10 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.


You never said there’s a chance for 50/50 you said it’s a fact that there’s 50/50 which isn’t true. Biology doesn’t keep a 50/50 biology and humans and natural is random. It’s not perfect there’s no being making sure it keeps even.

Fact is for every 100 women there’s 107 men. So it is not 50/50 why can’t you just accept that? Why keep arguing for a disproven theory?
It’s 51men/49 women basically. Which means men will no matter what be left alone and single forever unless women start taking multiple husbands.



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02 Nov 2017, 7:13 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
sly279 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
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I don’t believe that’s how biology works though regardless. My grandparents had 3 boys and one girl ify her theory is correct they’d had 2 boys and two girls.


I can’t believe people are arguing with science. Did you not go to school? Are you stupid? It’s not “my theory”. It’s scientific fact.

XX breeds with XY. Y is only present in males, but anything where y is present also has to be a male, giving a 50% chance of being male, and a 50% chance of being female.

Do you not know any math, either? A 50% chance implies that for each pregnacy, there is a 50% chance of being xx or xy. It’s not a 100% chance of having a girl after you’ve had a boy. If you flip a coin 5 times, there’s always a chance you get 5 heads. It’s less common, but it happens. :roll:

Maybe you need to date low functioning or IQ women. I’m not just trying to be a dick, but it’s given me an insight into why you’re struggling with dating.

Saying it’s 50% chance is different then saying biology keeps gender ratio at 50/50.

Chance doesn’t mean it’ll happen. In reality more men are born then women, that’s a recorded fact. 107 men are born to 100 women. So it’s not 50/50 split.
So you said something that was wrong, then when told it’s wrong changed what your talking about. You were not talking about 50% chance that a baby will be male or female. You said biology makes a 50/50 split so it’d be 100 men to 100 women. But bill doesn’t do such thing.


It’s really not different. You’re taking what I said literally to the T. Overall, there is a 50% chance of being either male or female. Yes, someone might have six sons. Someone else might have 16 daughters. Probability works to a bell curve. The bell curve dictates a 50/50 split. There is no more chance of being born male than female. Does it mean there is exactly the same number of men and women in the world? No, but it’s pretty close.


A one percent difference is just about statistical noise.


This from the person who supports gun control to save .0001% .
Doesn’t change the fact that 53 million men won’t find relationships. That’s it that’s my point nothing you say will change their fates. There isn’t enough women for them. It’s simple math. I’m one of those 53 million. Destined to never feel love or companionship.
So take satisfaction that you lucked out and aren’t one of us and get to have a relationship and got to have past ones.

Ultimately most people with problems are a small percentage. Most the world is quite well off and happy.
Homelsss people are a small percentage so don’t care about them, people with cancer are a small percentage so don’t care about them. Could go on and on.



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02 Nov 2017, 7:15 pm

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It’s 51men/49 women basically. Which means men will no matter what be left alone and single forever unless women start taking multiple husbands.


Actually they do these days, just not at the same time. There are plenty of women who have been married more than once.



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02 Nov 2017, 7:21 pm

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I guess saying there are more men in the world is now the new excuse for getting nowhere in online dating, instead of “The problem is me”.

There is a man drought in New Zealand. There are significantly more women than men. But guys still can’t get replies on online dating sites.

There is no more chance of being born a male. None. No confirmed and proven data to back that up.

No one is saying biology is fair. Look at lions. One male mates with as many females he wants. Females and males both have their benefits and low points in all species.

But producing straw man arguments for your lack of success is ridiculous.

It’s an explaintion for there being lot of single men, it’s prof positive that the myth of there being a woman for every man is false. That’s about it.

My problems are related more to there being 3,000 more men here yet women claim there’s no men to date. It’s cause likely the surplus of men similarly to dating sites have made women here more picky.

I’m and you were not oringially talking about chances of males or females being born, yiu changed to that subject after I proved your original argument wrong. You’re so stubborn it that’s being aspie we don’t like to say we are wrong, so you won’t accept it.
I’ve proven your oringal argument wrong, so I’m rather done and tired of this.

You you’re self i believe have said surpluse men on dating sites make women more picky then they would be normally, the same surpluse exist in my cities population, logically it’s create the same pickyness, which would explain why pretty much all single women here want a well off guy who owns a car and lives alone, and why they complain all the time there’s no men to date. But that’s not true there’s 3,000 more men then women, meaning there are tons of men to date here.