Bigotry against involuntarily celibate men

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Heterosexuality?

I’ve known a number of straight guys who are envious of our access to sex.

Why settle for something I do not want or keep going for what I want?
We live in a Capitalist society and everyone can be a winner if he/she works hard enough or wins the lottery for what he/she wants regardless of the set of cards that he/she has been dealt with in life.
Winning a huge pile of money will turn my life around, that is why I keep buying my lottery tickets. I hold onto hope that a winning lottery ticket will turn my life around and I get what I want in life: wealth and power.

I certain don’t. I wouldn’t mind a thin woman but I bet most women wouldn’t mind a thin man.
I don’t think either women or men will stop desiring a thin attractive mate. I think both need to settle for reality especially if our obesity percentage keeps going up, eventually there might not be any thin people left.
Be honest most people won’t seek out fat porn, they seek thin porn. Thin is the idea sexual attractiveness of our species, were weren’t meant to be fat. I like chubby women too though and wouldn’t reject one. I certainly wouldn’t post saying I require a thin pretty woman and won’t take less. Even if I was handsome and thin I wouldn’t. It’s super limiting yourself.

Last edited by sly279 on 12 Nov 2018, 7:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.

I have no envy for gay guys’ “access to sex.”

I hate sex for sex’s sake. I really have to dig a woman before I have sex with her.

Because it would be satisfying to have people around you that want your money and material things? Once that is gone, so would they. To be immensely rich may be the loneliest existence ever. I will stick with my lonely existence and skip fake people.

There is lots of “fat porn” around. I’ve met quite a few guys who dig chubby to fat women.

How the modern online dating game works.
1. top tiered men
2. females on the dating site
3. the rejected men.
A male not in top tier of men are rejected/invisible men.
Females only go for guys that rank higher in terms of value. The women will never go for males they regard as less value than them. Incels are growing by the minute. Bombed out online dating, a male incel is born!

On a dating site regardless if you are a female or male you are just a number. Top tiered men attract all the women and can pick and choose The majority of men are stuck as rejected/invisible men. A modern word has been created to label rejected/invisible men as incels. The numbers of men heavily outweigh women on dating sites. There will always be rejected left over men.

QFT.

Didn’t say there isnt fat porn I said most guys will seek thin porn. There’s porn for everything. Most porn is thin young women and guys.

I’m not trying to body shake or anything im fat myself. Look at past pictures 90% or more of people were thin. We just aren’t meant to be fat but it’s hard in today’s time to be thin. We have excess food, high sugar food and lots of sedative entertainment.
Now most of us are fat, but our sexual attraction hasn’t changed with it.
I’d prefer a thin woman over a fat one.
That’s not wrong. Unlike a lot of people I can see pat that though. I don’t let it limit me I’m open to women of all sizes.

Some of us aren't ever going to get anything genuine anyway. I'd much rather be a millionaire playboy who everyone wants to sleep but nobody really cares about than what I am now; the working-class loner who nobody cares about.

us aspies would profit from learning how to not elevate so many people upon pedestals. nobody on earth is greater than human, and humans are all fatally flawed. why pine after something which is fatally flawed?

Being born into a working class family and not lucky to be born into a middle class or rich family is what creates male incels. It has always been about social class that has prevented incels from fitting into society.

I totally get & respect what you're saying, however, I just wanted to point out that a preference for thin/fit/athletic partners is supposed to be, "super limiting yourself." That's the whole point of mentioning that you have that criteria.

Myself, I do limit myself. I say in my profile that I have a preference for thin/athletic types. I do not say anything negative towards other body types - but in reality, I reject those who are not thin/fit. I reject those that are more muscular than I like, too. I reject all of those who don't fit my super limiting criteria. (other criteria besides this, too.)

I consider myself critical, but not hypocritical. I used to be 242lbs fat with a 38" waist. But right now I'm 186lbs lean with a ~32" waist and almost 6-pack abs. I've done the work required to get myself into this shape and thus earned the right (IMO) to expect that my prospective partners are also reasonably fit. You're welcome to think whatever you like about my opinion, good or bad, it doesn't bother me. I'm simply stating the way it is for me, personally.

Many couples have "fitness level agreements," between each other & keep each other motivated to stay fit and healthy - it really isn't that uncommon, well, amongst fit couples. If someone wants to be with fitter partners, then do the good old fashioned diet & exercise work required to earn it. IMO YMMV. Just wanted to point out that some of us have fitness level criteria & it's okay to, IMO, and it's also okay not to have fitness level criteria.

conditional positive regard sucks whale turds IMHO. i'd rather do without.

eliot roger was middle-class. ted Kaczynski was middle-class. George Sodoni was middle-class. not mentioning those particular incels to lump those murderers with the rest of the innocent incel community but only because everybody knows who they were and that they were incel. upper class folk can routinely afford to buy popularity, not the middle or working classes, however.

Yuh, it’s always on the condition that someone finds you attractive. Always. Some people just have more definitive criteria than others is all.