Do women simply just dislike Aspie men?
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hurtloam wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
sly279 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.
Your job helps
What helped him most is his targeted demography too.
Did it? He doesn't seem very happy.
Yes, he doesn't....bad luck. I had a one bad luck too.
But if I recall right, his exes were Asians too; no?
From personal experience, when I am trying to approach a Caucasian woman feels like playing some game on "Super hard" mode.
But when I approach an Asian woman, whom many of them call me handsome bluntly, feels like I am playing it on Godmode lol.
rick42 wrote:
Cyberdad doesn't know how it's like to go a entire lifetime without a single woman being interested in him,but he's telling you,me,along with other aspie men that we continue to try to meet women,that it's our fault for why women dislike us and why meeting women in real life is somehow going to make our situation better,which will not in reality.
I find it odd that an NT, especially one who has no training in psychology, is giving advice to those on the spectrum.
Rather, he should ask questions to try an understand our valid situation and gain enlightenment.
Aspie males have difficultly with relating to NT women.
NT women are usually interested in NT males.
Nature at work.
Natural selection is a biatch.
Not rocket surgery.
kraftiekortie wrote:
You have to go around in life emphasizing to other people that you have worth and you are a viable person.
Just because you might be “Aspie,” “autistic,” or whatever doesn’t lessen the fact that you can be as useful, or more useful, than an NT person with the “usual” interests. You are not “less” than the NT person.
Just like one shouldn’t discuss anime with a woman, a woman should necessarily talk about the intricacies of applying makeup. Both interests just might bore listeners.
Just because you might be “Aspie,” “autistic,” or whatever doesn’t lessen the fact that you can be as useful, or more useful, than an NT person with the “usual” interests. You are not “less” than the NT person.
Just like one shouldn’t discuss anime with a woman, a woman should necessarily talk about the intricacies of applying makeup. Both interests just might bore listeners.
There is a large group in society who think those on the spectrum are broken.
Many think to have an autistic child is a serious blow to their life aspiration.
You have people terrified in having have their child vaccinated, because "it causes autism".
Even in the TV series "The Good Doctor", they looked into the difficulty of autistic people finding a significant-other relationship.
It is a problem.
We aren't the problem.
The evolutionary process is a heartless blind biatch.
Tony Attwood made the comment that those on the spectrum have a problem.
And that problem is having to deal with neurotypicals.
kraftiekortie wrote:
Females are people, too.
Get outta here!
Have you ever met one?
XFilesGeek wrote:
Just saying....
Women are still expected to be the caretakers and the nurturers. They may not be attracted to men that will add to their burden of people they have to take care of.
I've been friends with people who are at a much lower socio-economic status than me, and it always ended up that I had to pay their way. In the end, married men live longer than single men, and married women drop dead sooner than single women.
A woman I conversed with on Reddit said, "I look for assets, not liabilities." Maybe more men are willing to support poor women, but women are not willing to support poor men who have nothing going on in their lives.
Women are still expected to be the caretakers and the nurturers. They may not be attracted to men that will add to their burden of people they have to take care of.
I've been friends with people who are at a much lower socio-economic status than me, and it always ended up that I had to pay their way. In the end, married men live longer than single men, and married women drop dead sooner than single women.
A woman I conversed with on Reddit said, "I look for assets, not liabilities." Maybe more men are willing to support poor women, but women are not willing to support poor men who have nothing going on in their lives.
Cruel.
Life is cruel.
Pragmatism is cruel.
Natural selection is cruel.
Such is life. <shrug>
We just have to deal with it.
XFilesGeek wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Just saying....
Women are still expected to be the caretakers and the nurturers. They may not be attracted to men that will add to their burden of people they have to take care of.
I've been friends with people who are at a much lower socio-economic status than me, and it always ended up that I had to pay their way. In the end, married men live longer than single men, and married women drop dead sooner than single women.
A woman I conversed with on Reddit said, "I look for assets, not liabilities." Maybe more men are willing to support poor women, but women are not willing to support poor men who have nothing going on in their lives.
Women are still expected to be the caretakers and the nurturers. They may not be attracted to men that will add to their burden of people they have to take care of.
I've been friends with people who are at a much lower socio-economic status than me, and it always ended up that I had to pay their way. In the end, married men live longer than single men, and married women drop dead sooner than single women.
A woman I conversed with on Reddit said, "I look for assets, not liabilities." Maybe more men are willing to support poor women, but women are not willing to support poor men who have nothing going on in their lives.
Would it be fair to say if you're helpless it might be hopeless?
I'm saying much of this "relationship" stuff is a crapshoot.
Both men and women are shallow, and finding your "soul mate" is as much a matter of luck as effort.
Agreed.
I am aware that there are examples of a more profound interpersonal relationship, but from what I have seen, most relationships are very philosophically/intellectually/emotionally anemic, a la Kardashian style.
It's embarrassing.
Have people ever wondered about the degree of domestic violence in families?
Finding a significant-other and establishing a family is not the be-all and end-all, despite all the social brainwashing one has had to endure.
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.
Confidence won't do s**t to make females like me.Some people are just cursed to be alone forever without being loved for a single day in their lives.At this point,I feel like I will be one these people.
Pepe wrote:
rick42 wrote:
Cyberdad doesn't know how it's like to go a entire lifetime without a single woman being interested in him,but he's telling you,me,along with other aspie men that we continue to try to meet women,that it's our fault for why women dislike us and why meeting women in real life is somehow going to make our situation better,which will not in reality.
I find it odd that an NT, especially one who has no training in psychology, is giving advice to those on the spectrum.
Rather, he should ask questions to try an understand our valid situation and gain enlightenment.
Aspie males have difficultly with relating to NT women.
NT women are usually interested in NT males.
Nature at work.
Natural selection is a biatch.
Not rocket surgery.
I'm starting to agree.Natural selection is probably at work and natural selection is pretty much telling me that I will be alone forever,and there's nothing that I can do about it.You're also correct that NT females are interested in only non aspie males.Even aspie females(who make up a very small % of the population anyway) seem to be only interested in non aspie males as well.At this point,I accept that I will be doomed forever,no matter how pretty I look(unless I look like Will Smith),no matter how much money I make(unless I'm rich) ,no matter how much confidence I have,no matter how much I improve my social skills.At this point I'm getting close to just giving up on dating and females entirely.I don't want to say it's over,since I'm still want intimacy and affection at some point in my life.However it does seem to be over for guys like me (assuming if it ever began in the first place).
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rick42 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.XFilesGeek wrote:
Just saying... Women are still expected to be the caretakers and the nurturers. They may not be attracted to men that will add to their burden of people they have to take care of. I've been friends with people who are at a much lower socio-economic status than me, and it always ended up that I had to pay their way. In the end, married men live longer than single men, and married women drop dead sooner than single women. A woman I conversed with on Reddit said, "I look for assets, not liabilities". Maybe more men are willing to support poor women, but women are not willing to support poor men who have nothing going on in their lives.
Like I've said all along, "If you want to attract others, be attractive to them". This mean to be attractive by their standards, not ours. If a thirty-something person thinks that being overweight, under- or un-employed, and still living with his or her parents is attractive, then that person is thinking wrong.As XFG's Reddit acquaintance said, its assets, not liabilities that people look for. It says a lot about the desirability of person who looks healthy, stays active, is gainfully employed, and lives independently -- these are assets, not affectations.
If a people who want to attract others can improve themselves, then maybe they should; but if people simply are unable or incapable of improving themselves, then maybe they should just give up and accept their situation without complaint. After all, complaint without action is a liability to others.
rick42 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.
Confidence won't do s**t to make females like me.Some people are just cursed to be alone forever without being loved for a single day in their lives.At this point,I feel like I will be one these people.
Maybe just accept it and move on , change your focus , try and enjoy your life without romantic involvement. If you can succeed at that, the opposite sex may see something in you worth taking a gamble on.
Confidence can make a difference but it has to be real confidence not just faking it when you think others are watching.
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TuskenR wrote:
rick42 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.
Confidence won't do s**t to make females like me.Some people are just cursed to be alone forever without being loved for a single day in their lives.At this point,I feel like I will be one these people.
Maybe just accept it and move on , change your focus , try and enjoy your life without romantic involvement. If you can succeed at that, the opposite sex may see something in you worth taking a gamble on.
Confidence can make a difference but it has to be real confidence not just faking it when you think others are watching.
Yup, I often give this advice but most of these males masturbate a lot to compensate for their lack of a love life, and many are porn addicts as a result. Hence they're unable to move on and shift their focus away from women. Porn and masturbation keeps women as a perpetual prize in their minds. Hence they need to leave it behind before they can truly move on.
Ultimately these males can't be helped until they conquer that vice but most don't want to because of the struggle it presents. Sex probably is the strongest dopamine hit a person can receive and if you're constantly training your mind to seek that dopamine hit out then of course you're going to be obsessed with women. These males cannot redefine their lives until they leave this vice behind. It's a chain that they both love and hate, and a chain that they refuse to break.
TuskenR wrote:
rick42 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.
Confidence won't do s**t to make females like me.Some people are just cursed to be alone forever without being loved for a single day in their lives.At this point,I feel like I will be one these people.
Maybe just accept it and move on , change your focus , try and enjoy your life without romantic involvement. If you can succeed at that, the opposite sex may see something in you worth taking a gamble on.
Confidence can make a difference but it has to be real confidence not just faking it when you think others are watching.
Well,I have already accepted a while ago that I will be forever alone. I know you're saying to change my focus from women to hobbies/interest(by the way, I do focus on hobbies/interest).However just focusing on hobbies/interest alone is easier said than done when I see men in public who have far worse looks than I do,and who had lesser paying jobs than I did(got laid off from my job due this covid 19 stuff),have girlfriends,while I can't even get women to talk/converse with me.I'm close to just giving completely up on women anyway,but it doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't rant about rejection or being treated poorly by women.
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rick42 wrote:
TuskenR wrote:
rick42 wrote:
RetroGamer87 wrote:
rick42 wrote:
In my 36 years of living,not a single a girl/woman have ever showed interest in me at all.
Well geez, I'm aspie and girls show an interest in me. Maybe you just need to work on your confidence a little.
Confidence won't do s**t to make females like me.Some people are just cursed to be alone forever without being loved for a single day in their lives.At this point,I feel like I will be one these people.
Maybe just accept it and move on , change your focus , try and enjoy your life without romantic involvement. If you can succeed at that, the opposite sex may see something in you worth taking a gamble on.
Confidence can make a difference but it has to be real confidence not just faking it when you think others are watching.
Well,I have already accepted a while ago that I will be forever alone. I know you're saying to change my focus from women to hobbies/interest(by the way, I do focus on hobbies/interest),but that's easier said than done when I see men in public who have far worse looks than I do,and have a lesser paying job than I do have girlfriends,while I can't even get women to talk/converse with me.I'm close to just giving completely up on women anyway,but it doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't rant about being treated poorly by women.
You seem well on your way to acceptance. Don't judge yourself with someone else yardstick ( I think that's the saying ) , it's not fair on yourself. And of course you are free to rant as much as you want , sometimes you just have to let it out.
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So unscrew my head
And rinse it out
Polish my thoughts
Turn into doubts
TuskenR wrote:
You seem well on your way to acceptance. Don't judge yourself with someone else yardstick ( I think that's the saying ) , it's not fair on yourself. And of course you are free to rant as much as you want , sometimes you just have to let it out.
Welcome to WP, TuskenR.
Good advice -- I agree with you.
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