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20 Aug 2009, 12:53 pm

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You're not kidding yourself if both parties are being honest about it. Sometimes I find relationships are stressful and I like a lot of space. But i have a high sex drive. So if I don't have someone in my life that I'm compatible with, I stlil have that sexual need and if I have a friend who's as equally disinterested in relationships as I am, but has a need, then it works out well for everyone involved.


It still sounds like a cop-out to me: you want the best of both worlds without paying the price for either. It's like claiming disability benefits without having a disability.


I forgot that all relationships must end in a lifelong marriage and sex only for procreation. Thank you so much for setting me right. :roll:


Yeah, so get on that Rensilaer. :wink: You'll have to come up to Toronto to make the union legal though. I've got a spare room so you can stay the weekend at my place. :lol:


That sounds awesome. We can go to Club 5 and I'll get you drunk and dance with you all night long. I'll bring the face glitter and shredded muscle Ts. :lol:



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20 Aug 2009, 1:12 pm

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I forgot that all relationships must end in a lifelong marriage and sex only for procreation. Thank you so much for setting me right. :roll:


That is neither true nor fair, nor an accurate representation of my feelings towards relationships.



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20 Aug 2009, 1:16 pm

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I forgot that all relationships must end in a lifelong marriage and sex only for procreation. Thank you so much for setting me right. :roll:


That is neither true nor fair, nor an accurate representation of my feelings towards relationships.


I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?



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20 Aug 2009, 1:49 pm

rensilaer wrote:
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It still sounds like a cop-out to me: you want the best of both worlds without paying the price for either. It's like claiming disability benefits without having a disability.


I forgot that all relationships must end in a lifelong marriage and sex only for procreation. Thank you so much for setting me right. :roll:


Yeah, so get on that Rensilaer. :wink: You'll have to come up to Toronto to make the union legal though. I've got a spare room so you can stay the weekend at my place. :lol:


That sounds awesome. We can go to Club 5 and I'll get you drunk and dance with you all night long. I'll bring the face glitter and shredded muscle Ts. :lol:


sweet. We'll start off with drinks at Woody's first. :lol:



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20 Aug 2009, 6:01 pm

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I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?


I never said a relationship had to be permanent or even long-term, or that sex should be purely for procreation; just that the sex would surely be more satisfactory if the two parties were in a relationship with each other rather than disinterested.



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20 Aug 2009, 6:20 pm

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?


I never said a relationship had to be permanent or even long-term, or that sex should be purely for procreation; just that the sex would surely be more satisfactory if the two parties were in a relationship with each other rather than disinterested.


I'm gratified to see you're only speaking for yourself. Not everyone would agree with that in every situation. I have enjoyed sex a great deal without even so much as a name or one word spoken between us. It's all respective of the individual, his values and the situation.



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20 Aug 2009, 7:37 pm

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I say go for it, if it leads to that. It definitely sounds like you're up for it, and there's a good possibility that she is too. If you pass it up you'll always wonder how it would've worked out. Two thumbs up. :thumleft: :thumright:



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oh for sure, i feel extremely celebratory :) . i think it's the dopamine surge in my brain caused by the ecstasy i'm feeling at this moment of seeming divine providence.

i feel high, but in a non-drug way.
i feel like i could do just about anything right now =o!
someone stop me before i go scale a mountain and jump off thinking i can fly xD


Well, if you do that then you definitely WILL self sabatoge your chances of a potential lay. :lol:
lol :lol:
yeah, keeping the feeling pretty well contained.


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20 Aug 2009, 7:41 pm

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It isn't a copout because there are potential partners who feel the same way. All long as everyone buys into it, it is a win all the way around.

And, I can see it. I've learned that I am no good for women in a relationship. However, I have had many wonderful female friends. So I could see this working for me where a more traditional approach has been a uniform failure.
exactly.

crinklycrustacean: you're thinking in black and white. believe it or not there is a such thing as grey, and while not widely accept by narrow minds, it has many closet fans :lol:


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20 Aug 2009, 7:44 pm

rensilaer wrote:
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You're not kidding yourself if both parties are being honest about it. Sometimes I find relationships are stressful and I like a lot of space. But i have a high sex drive. So if I don't have someone in my life that I'm compatible with, I stlil have that sexual need and if I have a friend who's as equally disinterested in relationships as I am, but has a need, then it works out well for everyone involved.


It still sounds like a cop-out to me: you want the best of both worlds without paying the price for either. It's like claiming disability benefits without having a disability.


I forgot that all relationships must end in a lifelong marriage and sex only for procreation. Thank you so much for setting me right. :roll:
:lmao: :lmao:


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20 Aug 2009, 7:45 pm

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I forgot that all relationships must end in a lifelong marriage and sex only for procreation. Thank you so much for setting me right. :roll:


That is neither true nor fair, nor an accurate representation of my feelings towards relationships.
oh, please do explain then. all ears


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20 Aug 2009, 7:51 pm

CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?


I never said a relationship had to be permanent or even long-term, or that sex should be purely for procreation; just that the sex would surely be more satisfactory if the two parties were in a relationship with each other rather than disinterested.
who said it was disinterested?
it's "friends" with benefits. total strangers with benefits is somewhat different. lol

besides i'm interested, i'm just smart enough to respect her boundaries. she doesn't want a formal relationship and all the entanglement that goes with it, but she wants the sex. and i'm reaping the benefits.


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20 Aug 2009, 8:06 pm

Sounds like you're "in the zone"! (Learned what's in quote from NTs)

I have no idea how to handle situations like this, so I don't have any advice (17 year old here anyway, lol).
But all I know is not to mess up. :wink:



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20 Aug 2009, 9:27 pm

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Stop!

You have something else better to do right now :lol: :cheers:
lol, is that an offer or a quote reply :wink:


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20 Aug 2009, 10:48 pm

Seanmw wrote:
CrinklyCrustacean wrote:
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I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?


I never said a relationship had to be permanent or even long-term, or that sex should be purely for procreation; just that the sex would surely be more satisfactory if the two parties were in a relationship with each other rather than disinterested.

who said it was disinterested?


Er...that would be me. Somewhere on page 2. :lol: But I meant disinterested in a formal exclusive relationship.



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20 Aug 2009, 11:29 pm

CelticGoddess wrote:
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I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?


I never said a relationship had to be permanent or even long-term, or that sex should be purely for procreation; just that the sex would surely be more satisfactory if the two parties were in a relationship with each other rather than disinterested.

who said it was disinterested?


Er...that would be me. Somewhere on page 2. :lol: But I meant disinterested in a formal exclusive relationship.
actually i was using the question to pull the foundations out from beneath his argument...well, in my case anyway haha.

on a lighter note, hypothetically speaking [because i'm not trying this is what i think would happen, but for the sake of debate...] what's not to say that FWB relationships can't turn into formal relationships over time?


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20 Aug 2009, 11:45 pm

Seanmw wrote:
CelticGoddess wrote:
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rensilaer wrote:
I can only speak based on what you write. If you're advocating telling someone that a FWB interaction is improper and futile in favor of a more permenant meaningful interaction, even if both parties are on the same page, exactly what other conclusion should one draw?


I never said a relationship had to be permanent or even long-term, or that sex should be purely for procreation; just that the sex would surely be more satisfactory if the two parties were in a relationship with each other rather than disinterested.

who said it was disinterested?


Er...that would be me. Somewhere on page 2. :lol: But I meant disinterested in a formal exclusive relationship.
actually i was using the question to pull the foundations out from beneath his argument...well, in my case anyway haha.

on a lighter note, hypothetically speaking [because i'm not trying this is what i think would happen, but for the sake of debate...] what's not to say that FWB relationships can't turn into formal relationships over time?


i was about to 1. ask if you got lucky w her yet, and 2. suggest that you do NOT ^^^ see blacked text.
its basically a breach of contract. dont mess with it. enjoy it while it lasts.
if _she_ insists all over you to make it more serious, then yes, you'd be an idiot not to consider it, but dont go all aspie on her, and try to change the scenario :I its too rare to f**k up.


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