Anyone else get sick of being told to "be yourself"

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10 Sep 2009, 7:42 pm

Yeah it's definitely bad form to leave the toilet seat up, as has been said it only takes 2 seconds to put it down. Certain smells are kept in the bowl by the lid, the lid is there for that reason. Apparently positive chi goes down the pan if the lid is up too :P



10 Sep 2009, 8:34 pm

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Yeah it's definitely bad form to leave the toilet seat up, as has been said it only takes 2 seconds to put it down. Certain smells are kept in the bowl by the lid, the lid is there for that reason. Apparently positive chi goes down the pan if the lid is up too :P



I thought the lid was for to sit on and to keep stuff from falling in there. But wont the smells waft out of the lid through the cracks between the seat and the lid?

My family had never kept the lids down, only the toilet seats.



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10 Sep 2009, 8:53 pm

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I am sick of it as well. I also get told that "I should work on myself". Well if I work on myself anymore, I won't feel like myself, then I will have trouble being myself.

That make sense?


You can improve yourself, without completely changing yourself. Sometimes it takes awhile to get used to certain changes (like being more talkative, and getting more attention). I know it made me uncomfortable getting a lot of attention at work, and took me a long while to get used to it.

Things to work on:
Social skills
Self-esteem issues
Anxiety
Depression
Finding new hobbies/interests (you can keep your current ones, but I'm sure there are more things out there that you would like, if you tried them at least once)

Some things that should stay the same:
Core values
Personal beliefs
Way of living/lifestyle
Sense of humor (unless you have a poor sense of humor)
Odd quirks/traits


OK SilverStar I will address each issue, first with those areas that one should work on:

Social skills: like how? without friends or a psychologist? who's going to help? my family are all in denial; they say to get some thicker skin and stop making excuses - and BTW I have read 5-6 books on body language and have tried to use what the books teach but it is painfully slow and the books themselves are not in agreement.

Self-esteem issues: well there's only so much "visualizing" success a person can do before they just say "BS", that all the hard work at trying to not dwell on one's failures is not showing results so why bother. I will have greater self-esteem when I succeed better, not until then - all else and you're just kidding yourself.

Anxiety and Depression: OK while I somewhat agree - that's why I am taking Kava Kava which seems to help - but my high IQ will not be fooled - I know it's not really change per se but chemical change, so it's kinda phony.

Finding new hobbies: This has never been an issue I have many hobbies, in fact perhaps too many - again my IQ will not let me be fooled - it is just a diversionary tactic to avoid the painful truth about how AS hinders my life.

Now let's move on to THINGS THAT SHOULD STAY THE SAME according to you:

Core values: umm, actually my core value to be honest has to be ignored, along with that of always being on time as they're not only not appreciated but considered a nuisance; and always being nice or assuming the best in others HAD to change or else...

Personal beliefs: actually I disagree as I do not follow the majority opinion among my peers so I have to not talk about them; by being silent they do not really get to know me, but the alternative is worse....

Way of living/lifestyle: actually I disagree on this because the way of living is held captive by Aspie lack of social grace, so the lifestyle is one area that MUST change to better fit into the NT world. The lifestyle of a hermit is not my ideal despite what some people in my life have assumed...

Sense of humor (unless you have a poor sense of humor): well I have a decent one but honestly I think humor is a tool used by/on dumb people who have nothing else to say (at least it's better than talking about the weather but only marginally). Besides, you really have to be in a good mood to want to hear humorous stuff, and mostly I am too serious for that...humor seems a waste of psychic energy when so many serious things are happening on this planet...

Odd quirks/traits: again the NT world does NOT want to hear about these - they expect normality...

My conclusions are that if you are Aspie you need a personality makeover to obliterate yourself totally to fit in... nothing short of that is welcome by the NT world that is running things (one can hope not for long, but then no sense in getting your hopes up....) At time I wish I was someone totally different and could have had this second chance on the day I was born.

Sorry for the rant but I am starting to hate God as we the special children of this world do not deserve to get pissed on - it serves no useful purpose unless you assume God is a sadist and right now I am beginning to think so.

I'm pretty much in 100% agreement with what you say here. I know everyone's different and their AS affects them differently, but I don't see a way around mine.



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10 Sep 2009, 10:05 pm

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Patty and Selma had an argument about that on the Simpsons.


I have to ask, a conversation about toilet seats or stormtroopers not being able to hit anything? :D


During the trial of ...I believe it was Sideshow Bob? The Prosecutor asks, "Who is thinking of killing [Selma] right now?" Patty raises her hand. When everyone turns to stare at her she says, "She always leaves the toilet seat up."



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11 Sep 2009, 10:36 pm

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Women complain that men are slobs all the time. :D Let's face it, most men aren't as clean, tidy, and organized as women are, and never will be. Women need to realize that it's a gender difference. Do you ever hear of guys complaining that women leave the toilet seat down?...no. Why?...because it doesn't bother us that much. I think a lot of women have OCD, or something. :D


Men aren't slobs, i don't think so anyway. Some women are just wierd :P couldn't care less if a guy left the toilet seat up on me, all you gotta do is put it down?



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12 Sep 2009, 9:40 am

Yes. I hate being told that.

On the rare occasions when I've, to put it bluntly, 'unleashed' my inner personality, I get remarks from peers 'Dana, are you feeling okay? I'm starting to worry about you.' I can't imagine the number of times I've felt like saying, God. This IS my real personality. This IS how freaky I really am. Get used to it! Honestly.

I can't reveal myself, and I'm not sure whether I ever will be able to.


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12 Sep 2009, 9:49 am

Shebakoby wrote:
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Tim_Tex wrote:
Patty and Selma had an argument about that on the Simpsons.


I have to ask, a conversation about toilet seats or stormtroopers not being able to hit anything? :D


During the trial of ...I believe it was Sideshow Bob? The Prosecutor asks, "Who is thinking of killing [Selma] right now?" Patty raises her hand. When everyone turns to stare at her she says, "She always leaves the toilet seat up."


"Cape Feare", Season 5. by the way.


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12 Sep 2009, 10:07 am

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I thought the lid was for to sit on and to keep stuff from falling in there. But wont the smells waft out of the lid through the cracks between the seat and the lid?

My family had never kept the lids down, only the toilet seats.


The reason you want to lower the toilet seat is for the flush cycle. When you flush the toilet you actually get a mist plume of the liquid material in the toilet bowl that is dispelled into the atmosphere in the immediate vicinity, which may/will contaminate they entire bathroom with a thin layer of noxious and dangerous bacteria.

Here is an excellent commentary on the male-female germ challenge, and the toilet plume issue.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... e-bathroom

Lid down people.



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12 Sep 2009, 11:09 am

I don't want to be me anymore. I would rather be someone else.
I hate watching others around me acting so careless and natural and can't help but think to myself, why can't I be like you?


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12 Sep 2009, 11:11 am

If you don't like being yourself then don't be. Try out a new personality, or model one after someone else.

You don't have to be yourself all the time.



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12 Sep 2009, 11:45 am

Spokane_Girl wrote:
I do agree about "be yourself." people need to be very careful who they say that too. Would you tell an as*hole to be themselves or a violent person to be themselves?


At last someone says something sensible on the topic. Thank you.


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Yes being yourself doesn't get you more dates. I dont like that advice. People tell people to be themselves to get someone to like them, but then they say stop acting that way. People are screwed up.


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12 Sep 2009, 12:05 pm

Granite wrote:
The reason you want to lower the toilet seat is for the flush cycle. When you flush the toilet you actually get a mist plume of the liquid material in the toilet bowl that is dispelled into the atmosphere in the immediate vicinity, which may/will contaminate they entire bathroom with a thin layer of noxious and dangerous bacteria.

Here is an excellent commentary on the male-female germ challenge, and the toilet plume issue.

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/rea ... e-bathroom

Lid down people.


Thank you for beating me to that!

My husband not only puts down the seat, but the lid, before flushing. Every time. No wonder I said yes. ;)



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12 Sep 2009, 12:07 pm

I've learned that most insecure people don't want to be themselves. The type of people I've seen act like this are either angry or defensive depending on the perception I get from them.

These days I'm finding myself getting along better with those who act content with themselves. Then again, I feel like I can be myself around these types of people so I guess it all depends on the type of people you're trying to attract or get with which was something I use to worry about. I've gotten to the point where I'm starting not to care about the pressures of being socially "normal" or "in" or whatever. I feel like I'm hanging around cup almost half empty whenever I'm around a person who is wrapped up in their own flaws.


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12 Sep 2009, 12:14 pm

im considering just giving up and being myself, and nobody else. its tiresome to be someone else, and ultimately what do you wanna be someone else for? copulation, thats usually the whole thing.

screw that.


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12 Sep 2009, 1:26 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
Shebakoby wrote:
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Tim_Tex wrote:
Patty and Selma had an argument about that on the Simpsons.


I have to ask, a conversation about toilet seats or stormtroopers not being able to hit anything? :D


During the trial of ...I believe it was Sideshow Bob? The Prosecutor asks, "Who is thinking of killing [Selma] right now?" Patty raises her hand. When everyone turns to stare at her she says, "She always leaves the toilet seat up."


"Cape Feare", Season 5. by the way.


Yeah that's the one. I always wonder how people know what the episodes are called when they don't say what they're called on the Simpsons itself.



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12 Sep 2009, 1:33 pm

www.snpp.com has tons of good information on each episode.

Aside from the "Treehouse of Horror" Halloween episodes every year, only a handful of episodes had their titles shown:

The Telltale Head (season 1)
Bart Gets Hit by a Car (season 2)
Simpsons 138th Episode Spectacular (season 7)
Simpsons Spin-off Showcase (season 8)
Behind the Laughter (Season 11)


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