Slight overweightness...kills chances?

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07 Oct 2009, 11:52 am

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Us on the spectrum tend to project our shortcomings and use them as excuse as to why we are chronically single.


I know exactly why I'm chronically single. I was mistreated by every male I came across in school and thus developed a deep distrust of males. But I was never asked out anyway.


You were mistrated because you are on the spectrum! Most of us have been bullied in school, for example. That is not a coincidence. Someone once said that AS brings out the worst in people. I couldn't agree more!

Yeah it is really easy to just assume every member of the opposite sex is out to (ab)use us and break our hearts. I myself have been very very close to giving up on women all together. I've been dissapointed a number of times just in the past few years. But not every woman is a cold hearted b***h. Whenever I meet someone new I see it as an opportunity to start anew.

I'm sorry to hear about your Lyme disease. :( It sounds awful.

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Your weight can be a problem to some, but shouldn't keep you from getting dates unless you only go for superficial model types. It's all in your head. Everyone has some kind of shortcoming, and always will. If they solve one problem, it just makes another one look bigger. Can't let this stuff get to you, as I'm sure you have enough good qualities to date anyone you want.

THIS!



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07 Oct 2009, 1:23 pm

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@ Shebakoby: I'm 156-158 lbs. at 6'1", and most men avoid me. Though *I* consider myself "fat," I'm not overweight by medical standards (my obsession with thinness began at around the age of 16, and is probably BDD, stemming from non-existent self-esteem, years of ferocious bullying and physical/mental abuse, being shunned by peers, and the like). Regardless, most males - unless they're of retirement age and overweight - utterly ignore me. The majority of folks in North America are overweight, though, so I don't see a bit of extra weight as a true impediment to your finding a mate...


hmm 6'1? Perhaps your height causes them to believe you're not really female, or were once male?



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07 Oct 2009, 1:26 pm

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For women, it matters alot. Yes some guys will overlook it, but taking you have two things going against you: your weight and your ASD.
235lbs is not slightly overweight for a woman who is 5'7". Your BMI is 36.8, which is obese. A normal weight range for a woman you height is 120-155 lbs. Overweight is between 160-190.
Guys don't mind when a woman is a little overweight, but when you get to obese, it presents major issues, especially for young men.

Whether you like being obese or not is another issue. I am 5'9" and 155 lbs. I actually had to intentionally gain weight because I have a surgery scheduled in December, and remembered from my previous surgical experience I dropped 15-20lbs, which made me underweight. 155 lbs for my height is in a normal weight range, but I have to remind people, I walk 3-5 miles a day, ride a bicycle regularly as well. I don't own a car and don't drive very often. I don't like going to a gym either...its not my thing. This was all a conscious effort on my part, but it has become routine.

My advice, is to get yourself out of the obese category. Overweight is fine, there are not negative health impacts from that and alot of guys like curvy women, but obese presents many long term problems. Also remember going on a diet is not the way to do it, you need to have a healthy lifestyle, which means exercise.


Most of my fat is concentrated in a 'spare tire up front' (which my dad has dubbed "Dunlop's Disease/Syndrome...dunlop being a brand of tire--he's got the 'spare tire up front too). I also have GG sized chest, so there's a lot of weight there too. But I am very muscular as well.

I would love to get rid of this gut because it is quite annoying.



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07 Oct 2009, 1:30 pm

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Us on the spectrum tend to project our shortcomings and use them as excuse as to why we are chronically single.


I know exactly why I'm chronically single. I was mistreated by every male I came across in school and thus developed a deep distrust of males. But I was never asked out anyway.


You were mistrated because you are on the spectrum! Most of us have been bullied in school, for example. That is not a coincidence. Someone once said that AS brings out the worst in people. I couldn't agree more!

Yeah it is really easy to just assume every member of the opposite sex is out to (ab)use us and break our hearts. I myself have been very very close to giving up on women all together. I've been dissapointed a number of times just in the past few years. But not every woman is a cold hearted b***h. Whenever I meet someone new I see it as an opportunity to start anew.

I'm sorry to hear about your Lyme disease. :( It sounds awful.

Yeah, it is. Getting it in the middle of High School and then being misdiagnosed for nigh on 20 years really messed my life up, at least as much as teh ASD did. Before I got it I was VERY active. I was even able to ride my 1-speed BMX bike up "Lakes Road Hill" (a fairly steep hill that most kids have to GET OFF AND WALK THEIR BIKES up) without getting off the bike. One time I was riding (in about grade 6) and my hood was up, and I was wearing a rather masculine jacket, and some kids behind me commented, "He must be very strong." I was thinking LOL if only they knew it's a girl riding that bike... :lol:

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deadeyexx wrote:
Your weight can be a problem to some, but shouldn't keep you from getting dates unless you only go for superficial model types. It's all in your head. Everyone has some kind of shortcoming, and always will. If they solve one problem, it just makes another one look bigger. Can't let this stuff get to you, as I'm sure you have enough good qualities to date anyone you want.

THIS!


Yeah, the problem is, usually I'll never know what the immediate dealbreaker (cause for pre-emptive rejection) is....



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07 Oct 2009, 1:50 pm

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hmm 6'1? Perhaps your height causes them to believe you're not really female, or were once male?


In this short-arse, conservative, bigoted, narrow-minded c(o)untry, that *could* be part of it - at least among Lilliputians who don't know me personally. As I mentioned in another thread, a gay male at a NYC bar once mistook me for a male transvestite, and was infuriated when he discovered that I'm female. I'm apparently too tall and too pretty to be a girl. 8O ;)

Then again, I really don't know of any tall female athletes being mistaken for men, except for that poor South African, Caster Semenya, who may be a hermaphrodite. People here in the U.S. (NTs, I should say) are simply ignorant, unfortunately. A 6'1" female isn't that big of a deal in countries where the overall population's tall.


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07 Oct 2009, 2:39 pm

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hmm 6'1? Perhaps your height causes them to believe you're not really female, or were once male?


In this short-arse, conservative, bigoted, narrow-minded c(o)untry, that *could* be part of it - at least among Lilliputians who don't know me personally. As I mentioned in another thread, a gay male at a NYC bar once mistook me for a male transvestite, and was infuriated when he discovered that I'm female. I'm apparently too tall and too pretty to be a girl. 8O ;)

Infuriated? Haha so much for 'tolerance'. Disappointment I can understand, but fury? Good lord. Sounds like guy had issues.

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Then again, I really don't know of any tall female athletes being mistaken for men, except for that poor South African, Caster Semenya, who may be a hermaphrodite. People here in the U.S. (NTs, I should say) are simply ignorant, unfortunately. A 6'1" female isn't that big of a deal in countries where the overall population's tall.


yup. But they're ignorant in a lot of other places too. Like Canada.



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07 Oct 2009, 4:49 pm

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I know that a number of guys do not want to date women that aren't the perfect skinny fantasy with curves in all the right places.


Yes. It's a fact. There are also guys out there who date asians, white or black women explicitly. There is nothing wrong with it. If you're not their type then no worries. There are guys who have been coined 'chubby chasers'.

It's a big world full of different people and different people who love them.

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Now, on top of the whole AS problem, how much more of a burden does weight add upon the average AS person? Especially women?


It is not the weight itself, it's the perception and the burden the weight adds to the persons psyche.

A person comfortable with their weight and accepts it (regardless of being thin/thick) is going to be confident and that is going to shine through.

A person uncomfortable with their weight, regardless of BMI or waist-ratios, then they're going to a lot less successful in relationships and dating.



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07 Oct 2009, 5:14 pm

SINsister wrote:
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hmm 6'1? Perhaps your height causes them to believe you're not really female, or were once male?


In this short-arse, conservative, bigoted, narrow-minded c(o)untry, that *could* be part of it - at least among Lilliputians who don't know me personally. As I mentioned in another thread, a gay male at a NYC bar once mistook me for a male transvestite, and was infuriated when he discovered that I'm female. I'm apparently too tall and too pretty to be a girl. 8O ;)

Then again, I really don't know of any tall female athletes being mistaken for men, except for that poor South African, Caster Semenya, who may be a hermaphrodite. People here in the U.S. (NTs, I should say) are simply ignorant, unfortunately. A 6'1" female isn't that big of a deal in countries where the overall population's tall.


So in that case, people should think that I was once a female...



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07 Oct 2009, 6:07 pm

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I know that a number of guys do not want to date women that aren't the perfect skinny fantasy with curves in all the right places.


Yes. It's a fact. There are also guys out there who date asians, white or black women explicitly. There is nothing wrong with it. If you're not their type then no worries. There are guys who have been coined 'chubby chasers'.

It's a big world full of different people and different people who love them.

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Now, on top of the whole AS problem, how much more of a burden does weight add upon the average AS person? Especially women?


It is not the weight itself, it's the perception and the burden the weight adds to the persons psyche.

A person comfortable with their weight and accepts it (regardless of being thin/thick) is going to be confident and that is going to shine through.

A person uncomfortable with their weight, regardless of BMI or waist-ratios, then they're going to a lot less successful in relationships and dating.


Myself, I am not obviously uncomfortable with my weight. I don't really think about it when I'm out and in town. It's one of those things I think about later when I'm at home.



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07 Oct 2009, 6:22 pm

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I know that a number of guys do not want to date women that aren't the perfect skinny fantasy with curves in all the right places.


Yes. It's a fact. There are also guys out there who date asians, white or black women explicitly. There is nothing wrong with it. If you're not their type then no worries. There are guys who have been coined 'chubby chasers'.

It's a big world full of different people and different people who love them.

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Now, on top of the whole AS problem, how much more of a burden does weight add upon the average AS person? Especially women?


It is not the weight itself, it's the perception and the burden the weight adds to the persons psyche.

A person comfortable with their weight and accepts it (regardless of being thin/thick) is going to be confident and that is going to shine through.

A person uncomfortable with their weight, regardless of BMI or waist-ratios, then they're going to a lot less successful in relationships and dating.


Myself, I am not obviously uncomfortable with my weight. I don't really think about it when I'm out and in town. It's one of those things I think about later when I'm at home.


Ah, then that's good! :)

I heard a song about a month back (yes, I listen to country too) called "rockin' the beer gut" which had me laughing when I first heard it.

There's nothing wrong with analyzing/criticism in the privacy of your own home. Makes us want to be better. But in public, people should feel comfortable in their own skin. If not, they have a tendency to want to run home and hide, which sets up a pretty vicious cycle.



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07 Oct 2009, 7:10 pm

I've been extremely thin, and way too overweight, now I'm still got some weight on, (5'7 - 200lbs) but I'm comfortable with it for the most part. I'm also at the point where if someone doesn't like or accept me for who I am in and out, they can go take a flying %$!. :lol:
You don't have to be thin to be attractive, men or women. There was a thread a while back talking about models, and how people perceived them, yet no one ever brought up full figured models. There's some beautiful full figured women out there.


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07 Oct 2009, 9:52 pm

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Infuriated? Haha so much for 'tolerance'. Disappointment I can understand, but fury? Good lord. Sounds like guy had issues.


Oh, aye. He'd had what amounted to a temper tantrum. The amusing (?) aspect of it was that I had no idea that the fit he'd pitched was over *me* until the folks I was with told me after the fact (i.e., after his pal had bodily escorted him away from my table). As usual, I was utterly oblivious. My acquaintances were hysterical; I was mortified. :( :roll:


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yup. But they're ignorant in a lot of other places too. Like Canada.


...but, I suspect, not in Scandinavia or the Netherlands - where I'd move in an instant, if I could. :?


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08 Oct 2009, 8:03 am

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I've been extremely thin, and way too overweight, now I'm still got some weight on, (5'7 - 200lbs) but I'm comfortable with it for the most part. I'm also at the point where if someone doesn't like or accept me for who I am in and out, they can go take a flying %$!. :lol:
You don't have to be thin to be attractive, men or women. There was a thread a while back talking about models, and how people perceived them, yet no one ever brought up full figured models. There's some beautiful full figured women out there.


From watching America's Next Top Model with my wife (I don't really care for it personally), I think in the modelling world they are looking for faces and bodies that can be easily photoshopped. The girls they pick are always quite...odd looking, IMHO.

The plus size models they have are the only ones that ever seem to have a pretty face to me.



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08 Oct 2009, 8:10 pm

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People who reject you because of your weight are not worth your time. Someone who will truly love you will not care about that.


im a bit overwieght at the moment but i do MANY things to lose weight for girls and what i can say as honest as i can is that i would consider going out with an overwieght chick, but with the confidence and self esteem boost the relationship would give i'd expect her to at least make an effort to lose some weight, hey i know it sounds harsh but thats what one of my old friends done, hooked up with a big chick and she then lost quite a bit and now looks cute as! sorry if ive offended anyone



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09 Oct 2009, 12:48 am

What I've noticed to be true is that guys won't care what a girl weighs, just as long as she's confident in herself. Try to eat well, no matter what you weigh. Dressing to flatter your body wouldn't hurt either. I'd go for well-tailored items that are more fitted (especially in the shoulders & arms), a-line skirts, and clothes that don't hug the body but skim it, rather (does that make sense?).

Either way, plenty of failure will happen before success will, but it will come. You'll sooner or later meet someone who thinks you're beautiful, no matter what you weigh. Have confidence in yourself, and hopefully things will go well!



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09 Oct 2009, 10:59 am

I honestly don't care. I'm in pretty good shape and I'm a guy, I don't really care.