THIS can't be normal, even for an Aspie

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Hector
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06 Jan 2010, 9:32 am

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Bisexual female to heterosexual males: we're all crazy. There's no way out. We're controlled by our emotions more so than logic. This is what makes us, according to men, crazy. We're all nuts. Batshit insane. You have three choices: accept the fact that all women are crazy and just keep trucking on, celibacy, or try to find a way to make dudes attractive to you (go gay). These are your choices. There's no way around them. Unless you're into girls in comas. Even then, they're still probably nuts.

This strikes me as an unfair trivialisation of mental illness. Not all women are bipolar (say) to a significant degree.



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07 Jan 2010, 11:51 am

Hector wrote:
heliocopters wrote:
Bisexual female to heterosexual males: we're all crazy. There's no way out. We're controlled by our emotions more so than logic. This is what makes us, according to men, crazy. We're all nuts. Batshit insane. You have three choices: accept the fact that all women are crazy and just keep trucking on, celibacy, or try to find a way to make dudes attractive to you (go gay). These are your choices. There's no way around them. Unless you're into girls in comas. Even then, they're still probably nuts.

This strikes me as an unfair trivialisation of mental illness.

Not all women are bipolar (say) to a significant degree.


I use the words "crazy" and "mentally ill" as two different terms. I have AS, DP, PTSD and some other stuff, but I'm not mentally ill because it does not interfere with my daily life. I am, however, crazy. Out of all the guys I've talked to, especially considering I labeled myself a lesbian for a good long time, so I got to join their lady conversations, and all I've ever heard is how crazy women are (in our defense, men are stupid). There is actually a theory out there called the "Cragoe-Perry Theory" which states that most women are three different kinds of crazy, and most men are three different kinds of stupid.

All I'm saying that even if you get away from the mentally ill girls, you're still likely not going to find a sane woman. I think it's all about perception. Men think that women think to complicatedly, which makes them crazy, and women think that men think too simply, which makes them stupid. But really, humans in general are just really...really weird.


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07 Jan 2010, 3:04 pm

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But really, humans in general are just really...really weird.


I beg to differ! Humans aren't wierd at all to humans. They're just never understandable, as a group, by an individual human.

A better way of putting it I think, would be to say "Consciousness is really really wierd."


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08 Jan 2010, 1:49 am

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Maybe it's just an Aikido thing. I do Aikido as well and have met lots of "interesting" persons... myself included I guess ><


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08 Jan 2010, 7:44 am

Its due to that fact bipolar women can have high levels of oxytocin which aspies lack most of the time. There smell is like honey to us.



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08 Jan 2010, 11:33 am

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Its due to that fact bipolar women can have high levels of oxytocin which aspies lack most of the time. There smell is like honey to us.

Again, I had the opposite situation. I went on a date with a woman I met online, and toward the end of the date, she admitted to me that she had bipolar. Throughout the whole date, she was super affectionate with me. If anything, I'd say that my smell was like honey to her, lol. Other factors that may have influenced her action is that she's not the physical type that most guys want, and her last relationship was a long time ago. But I'd still say that it was mainly due to the oxytocin level difference you mentioned.



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08 Jan 2010, 1:51 pm

Feminine scent smells soooo much better naturally to me, with very few exceptions. Like, if a woman had chocolate syrup drizzled on her, that would smell better.

But mostly natural scents are best. Now, as to what hormones a woman might have in varying levels to another woman and how that would affect their scent I'm not actually sure, I'll have to go do some pheromone research on that.


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08 Jan 2010, 2:04 pm

My ex-girlfriend probably had Borderline Personality Disorder and had a gothic twist to her. For example, she owned some of the BeGoths dolls including the following :

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Damn, I loved here so much....



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08 Jan 2010, 2:17 pm

Aspie1 wrote:
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Its due to that fact bipolar women can have high levels of oxytocin which aspies lack most of the time. There smell is like honey to us.

Again, I had the opposite situation. I went on a date with a woman I met online, and toward the end of the date, she admitted to me that she had bipolar. Throughout the whole date, she was super affectionate with me. If anything, I'd say that my smell was like honey to her, lol. Other factors that may have influenced her action is that she's not the physical type that most guys want, and her last relationship was a long time ago. But I'd still say that it was mainly due to the oxytocin level difference you mentioned.


Well I was talking to my doc and he said that I will be more attractive to the girls with bipolar than I will actually be attracted to them...if that is even possible. And as another poster said female sent is good...



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08 Jan 2010, 2:30 pm

Hector wrote:
There are quite a few caring people in this world who are kind of drawn to people with problems. Maybe fewer than there are people with problems, but they exist. Perhaps you are one of those caring people.

This is all speculative, of course. Personally, I can't relate.


I think this is referred to as the "bird with a broken wing syndrome". Many people are attracted to others that need a little "fixing". They probably think that they can't fix themselves, so they seek out others to "work on".

I met a Bi-Polar, ADHD, Borderline, or whatever girl awhile back, and we were instantly attracted to each other. I felt comfortable around her, I could relate to her, she had a child-like personality, with equal part innocence/ and bad-girl qualities, and I never felt bored around her like I do with so many other people. The thing that I liked the most about her, is that I thought I could help her...



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08 Jan 2010, 2:37 pm

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I think this is referred to as the "bird with a broken wing syndrome". Many people are attracted to others that need a little "fixing". They probably think that they can't fix themselves, so they seek out others to "work on".


For me, it's different. I tend to seek out girls who are "ackward", "strange", "nerdy" or just plain excentric because I'm more likely to connect with these women than with average women. If you're outsider in society, it only makes sense to look for another outsider.



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08 Jan 2010, 3:26 pm

Salonfilosoof wrote:
SilverStar wrote:
I think this is referred to as the "bird with a broken wing syndrome". Many people are attracted to others that need a little "fixing". They probably think that they can't fix themselves, so they seek out others to "work on".


For me, it's different. I tend to seek out girls who are "ackward", "strange", "nerdy" or just plain excentric because I'm more likely to connect with these women than with average women. If you're outsider in society, it only makes sense to look for another outsider.


I agree. Basically, people are looking for someone that reflects different aspects of themselves at any given time, whether it be something they are missing in their lives, something they like about themselves, or something they need to learn, or heal within themselves.



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08 Jan 2010, 10:44 pm

Well. after reading all the replies:

I don't think it has anything to do with scent for me... I don't like smells really, even if nice, for the most part.

SilverStar said about how "Basically, people are looking for someone that reflects different aspects of themselves at any given time, whether it be something they are missing in their lives, something they like about themselves, or something they need to learn, or heal within themselves."

I wish I knew what that aspect of myself I was looking for.

As for "bird with a broken wing syndrome"... f**k. I really don't want to be like that. In a way that says that I am a conceited person for thinking I can help... even if it is true I am like that. f**k.

Maybe I am looking for.... You know, I think know what I am looking for, and I don't want it to be the case. I am chasing after something that will never come back. I think for so long I have trying to find someone in others. It's not going to happen. I am looking for a girl I knew that is gone, but I will most likely never see her again. I guess when something effects you to a certain point, you look for that effect. I also realize it's not only a bad thing to do, but if I ever got what part of me wants, I would destroy myself. Some things need to just be let go off. It can be hard to forget some things and I think it is hard to let go. Even if the situation in question led to heartbreak, suicidal thoughts, anger, depression, etc.

The love is not there anymore. I don't care for that girl any more in that way. But I still have some happy memories, even if most were bad. I guess I want to be able to at least feel hurt. As for the girls I like being crazy, I think I go for people like that because I have a irrational hope that it will be the same. But then if it was the same, why would I want that?

There also really may be abit of "Bird with a Broken Wing" thing for me. I feel I messed up with a girl in my past, even if really NON of it was my fault. Maybe I want a chance to make up for my feeling I let her down (even though I didn't)

Its a case of: I know what I should look for and what will be the type that will be good for me, yet I still look for something I KNOW will bring hurt to me for a reason I don't fully get

I have no f*****g clue why, but part of me wants it back, even if all it was a painful experience. Maybe I rather feel "pain" then nothing.



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12 Jan 2010, 9:29 am

The "feeling nothing" is somewhat tiresome and irritating, I'll give you that. But I'm not sure replacing it with pain is a good idea. As much difficult with emotions as I have, I still woudn't want to give up emotionless for only bad ones.


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