Alternative(s) to Typical Relationships

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18 Mar 2010, 11:21 am

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I have had this fantasy several times in my life now, and the mere thought of it being even remotely possible is so relieving, but my logic tells me it is a rather unlikely scenario...

The idea is this: To find someone who, like myself, has their own interests and prefers their own company to that of most others, communicate really well together (without subtleties and inaccurate assumptions), and after a time, being able to coexist as mostly friends (with mutual respect, and enough common interests to be able to share some time together) who happen to also care deeply for each other (without feeling the need to ooze out gushy sentiments all the time :P), and be physically attracted to each other (so that the occasional time that we both are interested in physical intimacy, we can pursue it).

Be honest... I'm dreaming, aren't I? ;)

Anyone else have non-traditional relationship fantasies? (I once had a friend who wanted to buy two houses side by side, or a duplex, and live in one while her husband occupied the other :) ).


You may want to look up the relationship between Sarte and Simone De Beauvior. They were mutual good friends and occasional lovers. They shared intellectual interests, both were existencial philosophers and literary figures, and De Beauvior is an important feminist writer (she wrote the Second Sex). I kind of have an obsession with De Beauvior, but one of my obsessions is her relationship with Sarte.

By the way, alternative relationships ARE possible, it just requires a bit of knowledge to get into them and maintain them.


I imagine it would be easier to get into such relationships with aspies, since we tend to be more straightforward and openminded. You don't seem to be able to directly ask NTs about such things, whereas with aspies you could.



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18 Mar 2010, 12:05 pm

I was friends with benefits with an older man, three years, ago. I had to break it off with him, because he had no concept of hygiene.


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24 Oct 2013, 7:18 pm

MichelleRM78 wrote:
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I have had this fantasy several times in my life now, and the mere thought of it being even remotely possible is so relieving, but my logic tells me it is a rather unlikely scenario...

The idea is this: To find someone who, like myself, has their own interests and prefers their own company to that of most others, communicate really well together (without subtleties and inaccurate assumptions), and after a time, being able to coexist as mostly friends (with mutual respect, and enough common interests to be able to share some time together) who happen to also care deeply for each other (without feeling the need to ooze out gushy sentiments all the time :P), and be physically attracted to each other (so that the occasional time that we both are interested in physical intimacy, we can pursue it).

Be honest... I'm dreaming, aren't I? ;)

Anyone else have non-traditional relationship fantasies? (I once had a friend who wanted to buy two houses side by side, or a duplex, and live in one while her husband occupied the other :) ).


Sounds like "friends with benefits." It is actually a relatively common thing these days. You do stuff, hang out, and have sex. If it works for both people-- why not?


You say friends with benefits, but you forget to realize the benefit of friendship itself. :lol:



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24 Oct 2013, 8:21 pm

It sounds like your really independent SideKick like in an emotional sense & doing your own thing. It may be good for you to be with a guy who is also very independent & does his own thing alot like maybe running his own small business, or spending time with the fellas. Some Aspie guys here would like that kind of relationship; they want companionship but not all the intense emotional stuff & need more alone time.

The kind of relationship I desired & am in might could be considered slightly alternative because it's interdependent. I'm kind of clingy, a tad needy, & dependent(thou I am better than I was in my last two relationships partly because I screwed those relationships up partly because of those things, I grew/matured some, & I'm on a med for anxiety & another one for OCD) I also love being affectionate, & am very emotionally supportive. & my girlfriend is also dependent, affectionate & needs emotional support & we do love each other.


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30 Oct 2013, 12:00 pm

You might be dreaming, but you're not the only one.
This is exactly what I wish I could have, but yes, it's probably unrealistic :P
but I do think you can have something close to it...only it takes a lot of time to build a relationship like that.
You'd need to trust the other person enough to be able to keep your distance without being afraid of them leaving you;
I like being on my own, same as everyone here, and I tend to run away from people if I feel they get to close;
But I also need a lot of reassurance, maybe because I find it hard to believe someone would actually like me enough/find me interesting enough to stick around. So even though I want the kind of relationship you described, I want it really badly, I'm not even sure if I could handle it; do you ever feel that way?

Oh no, I'm starting to whine about myself again, sorry :P



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30 Oct 2013, 10:34 pm

I like that OP.

I'd definitely want a relationship more like that but I think I would need a little more interaction that what your post described.

I would be cool with having my own room but I'd want her to come and snuggles with me at night.


I like being cuddles and snuggles'd. :P



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31 Oct 2013, 9:30 am

My favorite living experience was living in a dorm, the one where I knew all my friends were going to be in from the previous year. While I enjoy my privacy immensely, I really liked being able to leave my room and be able to interact with someone that I felt comfortable with, without having to plan to meet up and make it a thing. Houses and even apartments, everyone's so sequestered from everyone else. I mean, people are right there, but in order to interact it's still 'I'm making a concerted effort to talk to that person'.
That I'm not working right now, and that I just live with my husband, I miss generic social interaction terribly. Which is ironic because I can't stand a lot of people and hate a lot of social interaction.

I know this all isn't about a romantic relationship, but I feel somehow excluded from the rest of society by being married. Because with marriage there's the expectation of having your family be your social glue, and I don't even know if I want kids. It really, really sucks that as a 'mature adult' I'm supposed to have a house and a steady job and a family and for that to be my goal. Even though I was seriously depressed for most of it, I still view my time being a university student as ideal for me. Surrounded by people who were eager to learn, professors eager to teach, plenty of social interaction, open-mindedness was the expectation, not the oddity, yet I had enough alone time to keep my thoughts together. I guess I really like the idea of being forced to interact with people who are like minded because at this point in life I utterly fail at finding and keeping friends. Unfortunately, lifelong student isn't a feasible permanent life choice. Guess this is also why one of my dream jobs is professor...I could live vicariously through the students.

Sometimes I think I'd be happiest joining a free-love commune somewhere, if any exist in this day and age.

Another thing that doesn't help my idea of communal living is that I wouldn't trust myself to share a kitchen with people who ate regular, gluten-filled diets.


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31 Oct 2013, 10:05 am

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My favorite living experience was living in a dorm, the one where I knew all my friends were going to be in from the previous year. While I enjoy my privacy immensely, I really liked being able to leave my room and be able to interact with someone that I felt comfortable with, without having to plan to meet up and make it a thing. Houses and even apartments, everyone's so sequestered from everyone else. I mean, people are right there, but in order to interact it's still 'I'm making a concerted effort to talk to that person'.
That I'm not working right now, and that I just live with my husband, I miss generic social interaction terribly. Which is ironic because I can't stand a lot of people and hate a lot of social interaction.

I know this all isn't about a romantic relationship, but I feel somehow excluded from the rest of society by being married. Because with marriage there's the expectation of having your family be your social glue, and I don't even know if I want kids. It really, really sucks that as a 'mature adult' I'm supposed to have a house and a steady job and a family and for that to be my goal. Even though I was seriously depressed for most of it, I still view my time being a university student as ideal for me. Surrounded by people who were eager to learn, professors eager to teach, plenty of social interaction, open-mindedness was the expectation, not the oddity, yet I had enough alone time to keep my thoughts together. I guess I really like the idea of being forced to interact with people who are like minded because at this point in life I utterly fail at finding and keeping friends. Unfortunately, lifelong student isn't a feasible permanent life choice. Guess this is also why one of my dream jobs is professor...I could live vicariously through the students.

Sometimes I think I'd be happiest joining a free-love commune somewhere, if any exist in this day and age.

Another thing that doesn't help my idea of communal living is that I wouldn't trust myself to share a kitchen with people who ate regular, gluten-filled diets.


It's strange coming back to this forum after so long and reading my old posts, because my life is completely different than it was back then. I am not happily married and my first child just turned 2 months old.

Anyway, I can empathize with your position, though I seem to have less social interaction need than you do. I've had a few people that could be likely good friends, but I simply don't know how to pursue it. We enjoy time together and do interesting things, but that happens quite rarely, because I don't really know how to encourage interaction events. Fortunately for me, this doesn't cause me the unhappiness that it seems to cause you - admittedly possibly because I'm a gamer, and much of my free time is invested there.
Unfortunately I haven't a solution to offer, but at least perhaps some commiseration may help?

I've dreamed for years about setting up some kind of small gated community where everyone knows everyone and can feel comfortable and safe with themselves and their children interacting with the others freely. It would have a heavy emphasis on community and lots of regular scheduled events to give everyone an opportunity for social interaction if they desired it. (weekly Sunday barbeques or something). This seems like it would be a good situation for you, as well.