Enough is enough.

Post Reply New Topic

Need/desire, power/pleasure - all of that is irrelevant.

Fact is, it feels nicer to get sucked off than to palm oneself off.

(If you'll pardon my German.)

You made the point that it's practically a need. No its not. It's a want. The Tiger Woods example doesn't make it any more of a need. It may feel better than a hand...but that doesn't make it a need either.

How do you know this?
One cannot measure emotions.
Perhaps with a brain scan.
Have there been brain scans on cats to check for emotions?
Show me the proof.

So that makes them more akin to sociopaths than to autistics.

A look? What look? Do you mean the avoiding eye contact and awkward stance? Because that would never deter aspie women... If anything, a large part of what attracted me to my current boyfriend was that I saw so much of myself in him. I'd finally found someone who I could identify with, and who had the same mannerisms and thought process as myself.
Though if by "look" you mean a physical characteristic, I'm in the school of thought which says Asperger's/autism have little to no effect on physical appearance. At least nothing noticeable.
I remember talking to someone who was convinced he could spot autism because it caused ugliness.
I remember, before I was dating my boyfriend and we were just friends, another (NT female) friend of mine said, "Yeah, [my now boyfriend]'s really hot, but I heard he has autism or something? So I'd feel like I was taking advantage of him." (I literally laughed out loud at her. Good example of why telling people about AS right off the bat isn't always a good idea, because they'll make assumptions.)

I believe that sex is a necessary part of a healthy life. Scientific studies also indicate that the benefits of sex (and love) are massive for both body and mind. You can get along without it, but it's a life far poorer for the lack.

You can also live in a cave for a long long time without seeing or talking to another human being, but it's not good for you. Is social contact a need or a desire?

i think the problem as well is that everyone is talking about it making early-loss-of-virginity the "norm". whether its right or wrong that there's too much peer pressure (there is IMO!) is actually irrelevant. telling someone "not to listen to others" or "it doesn't matter" is not going to make him or her feel any better about their sexual status.

yes i know i can survive without sex. i can also survice living in a boring town or survive doing a boring job. does that mean that everything's fine! i suppose i could take the buddhist approach and say "hey, its only a craving" but like 99% of the world, i don't have the mental capacity to do think like that.

No it's not, dating is a mutual agreement, a woman can reject a man and a man can reject a woman. It only seems true because of social conditioning that allows women more oppurtunities than men (men approach, women sit there), and this isn't always the case either (some women do approach men), most of my contacts when I was attempting to date were women contacting me (real interest or psychopathic swindler is irrelevant to the subject). To this day, women generally make moves on me, why I don't end up trying dating is irrelevant to the topic so don't ask.



You do realize that female animals judge male animals off of looks and strength right? A males physical fitness (looks generally indicate physical fitness), strength and intelligence are evolutionary signs of good genes from a Darwinian perspective. There goes your "women are more interested in personality" theory Hale straight from a pure Darwinian perspective.



Lies, read above for a Darwinian look, also girls oogle me and I'm considered attractive (I'm physically fit as well, but that's more of a objective fact, my facial attractiveness is an "eye of the beholder" thing), I've had perverted comments made behind my back by girls which I've been told by my friends and family members both male and female. I'm reminded of a certain CSI episode.

Female Cop: Men are perverted pig-dogs! They only care about looks, blah blah blah.
Psycho-Cop: Yeah, hey look at those half-naked male models, the human body sure is a beautiful thing is it not?
Female Cop: *Stares and drools*

The world truth disagree's with you Hale, only fictionious stereotypes agree with you.



Well I'm amazed, some good insight from you and you didn't rip me off like you did in that one topic (you quoted me word for freaking word and pretended it was your own wisdom, hasn't anyone told you stealing is bad).



Biological theory of emotions is that emotions are a combination of electrical signals and nuerotransmitters interpreted by the brain, everyone has emotions, and yes cats have emotions, so do dogs (Cats and Dogs both have a limbic region of the brain which is some theorize is the center of emotion).



1: Dogs can learn how to manipulate people too, my beagle does this, he takes stuff to extort for food, dogs are more intelligent than you think as well.

2: Psychopaths/Narcissists have electrical signals and nuerotransmitters just like any other human and thusly emotion, just because they feel nothing for you, me or others does not mean they "lack emotion", they have proto-emotions (self-centered emotions) but "lack" (this lack is actually unknown in cause) social-emotions (other-centered emotions). I'm not even discussing the Dark Triad personality issue, it's way to complex and people are to simple-minded to pay attention to the details and this isn't the place anyway.



Bang! You have just proven people should not speak for other people (and proven my point why Hale and a few other girls shouldn't act like they speak for all women), Hale_Bopp (a female) and therange (a male) has posted claiming to speak for womanhood and you posted an opposite view. Me thinks some of the people here need to stop generalizing and looking at people as groups and start looking at people as individuals, because the only person you can speak for is yourself.

I'm talking about NT women in regards to Aspie men. The woman that responded and said she doesn't judge is an Aspie woman.

"NT" women are just as much individuals as Aspie/Autistic women, some of the so-called "NT" women here would have my mom a so-called "NT" disagreeing with them as well. There is no real standardized version of normality, people just like to pretend there is, it makes their lives simpler, rather than think, they just generalize and label. I once asked my psychiatrist how much we actually know about the human brain and he replied quite honestly "We know vastly more about deep-sea crevices than the human brain", things aren't always what they seem, I can't begin to comprehend your feelings on things as I don't know you and don't know what you've been through, but believe me, there is no such thing as "normal", "leave it to beaver" normal people do not exist.

Social status. No animal will mate with an omega male.



Just because you've had varied personal experience with this, doesn't make it a "LIE"
The worlds truth doesn't disagree with me. Next time you go out, look at how many ugly men are with decent looking women.. and how many decent looking men are with ugly women.



wtf are you talking about? I don't recall ever seeing you post in my life.



Then maybe you should stfu and stop calling others liars when it's not based on anything. It's not a lie, it's an opinion.

Last edited by hale_bopp on 22 Apr 2010, 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

You do realize that everything you said can be applied to humans as well, and then you can go into "but what do we really know about brain scans", "everything is subjective" and "I have no proof that anything that isn't me is actually real", and then you will realize that you're a sociopath.

Here's the thing. Many murderers start by torturing small animals. Something you should meditate upon.

Social status in the animal world is attained by physical and intellectual superioty Hale.




I could say the same to you.



There are plenty of decent looking men with "ugly" women, again like above, I can say the same to you.



Playing dumb gets you no where, I scolded a certain individual who will rename nameless out of respect in a topic saying that "What he accuses aspie women of "NT" men and women do the same", and you came in the same topic not so shortly after and repeated me, WORD FOR WORD! (HE STABBED US FOR THE SAME THING NT MEN AND WOMEN DO TO!"



And maybe you should shove your oversized ego where it belongs.

To the OP: Criticizing threads in a forum is pointless. If you're tired of the lonely hearts threads, you can always spend time elsewhere.
Having a girlfriend for the first time solved two problems for me:
1) Knowing what sex was like;
2) Knowing what being in a relationship was like.
This satisfied 38 years worth of insane curiosity that had gotten progressively more stressful and depressing.
Sex was great. I miss it since breaking up with my GF.
Being in a relationship was a stressful roller coaster. I could do without it. But I had to know what the deal was.
On the issue of whether sex is a want or a need: it's a want for women (once in a while), and is a near-constant need for men.
I don't know why women get angry when I say that. The two posters in this thread I know are female have both argued that sex is a desire not a need. All the posters saying it's the other way around appear to be men (correct me if I'm mistaken). I rest my case.

I've got no idea what you're talking about. I have no idea who you are, what you said, or where you posted. Instead of tearing me to bits and accusing me of denying it, post a link to it in this thread, as I want to know WTF you're on about.

Also, why the hell would someone read some-ones posts and repeat EXACTLY what they say? How is that "trying to pass someone elses opinion off as their own"? Its would be pretty bloody obvious who posted it first if that was the case. The most likely case Is I didn't read all the posts in the thread and had a similar opinion on the matter to yours. Being accused of lying when I'm not is something I will NOT tolerate. Also being told to "shove your oversized ego where it belongs" counts as a personal attack, good thing I don't care about your opinion of me or I would have reported it.

If you have a personal problem with me, which you obviously seem to, your posts are laced with poison, be mature about it instead of making a scene.

Last edited by hale_bopp on 22 Apr 2010, 6:12 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Just because you're a typical guy doesn't mean all guys are like that. And how is it a "need?" Will you die without it?

Men get depressed without sex.