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06 May 2010, 9:28 am

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I'm neither Hollywood model obsessed nor Puerto Rican so, I'd call her build dead-aim for my tastes.


Are you implying that Hispanic people all want a little extra meat on their women? lol

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...and yes, to say something like that means I need to take a good look in the mirror as well and keep a sense of where I'm at and where I'm going
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You kinda lost me here. I initially thought you were a female, so I figured this meant "Keep it realistic with what body type I can achieve." But now, I have no idea what you meant. lol



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06 May 2010, 9:38 am

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Are you implying that Hispanic people all want a little extra meat on their women? lol

At least friends and acquaintences. Then again, true, they are bigger guys themselves.

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You kinda lost me here. I initially thought you were a female, so I figured this meant "Keep it realistic with what body type I can achieve." But now, I have no idea what you meant. lol

I mean, even as a guy, I'd still feel weird aiming for that IRL and having a beer gut - it doesn't compute. I'm not out of shape, I actually do a lot, just that I do admittedly have a little padding at the waist that's likely more dietary than anything. Looking at attractive women, especially if its an impressive site, just inspires me to want to dial my own body in (my odd sense of things is that I want to give women the same feelings back, though being less visual I'm not sure how realistic that thinking is).



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06 May 2010, 9:49 am

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I mean, even as a guy, I'd still feel weird aiming for that IRL and having a beer gut - it doesn't compute. I'm not out of shape, I actually do a lot, just that I do admittedly have a little padding at the waist that's likely more dietary than anything. Looking at attractive women, especially if its an impressive site, just inspires me to want to dial my own body in (my odd sense of things is that I want to give women the same feelings back, though being less visual I'm not sure how realistic that thinking is).


I am all for good health, but it is important to make the distinction between exercise for health and exercise for vanity/improved marketability. I wouldn't worry too much about a little padding especially if your goal is to attract a non-shallow woman.

One of my biggest pet peeves are people who are so ridiculously over-consuming the standards that pop-culture feeds them. These are the women who are 4'11'', yet still need a guy who is 6 foot plus in order to feel "yet even more petite." And if it's not because they want to feel small and dainty, it's because they are so lost in Madison Ave's brainwashing that anything short of that standard is inferior.

In a way... having that little bit of padding will automatically filter out the shallow ones, so that's a good thing. It's kinda like being broke. If a girl is with you in spite of that, then you can definitely check off "She only loves me for my money." lol



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06 May 2010, 10:04 am

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I am all for good health, but it is important to make the distinction between exercise for health and exercise for vanity/improved marketability. I wouldn't worry too much about a little padding especially if your goal is to attract a non-shallow woman.

One of my biggest pet peeves are people who are so ridiculously over-consuming the standards that pop-culture feeds them. These are the women who are 4'11'', yet still need a guy who is 6 foot plus in order to feel "yet even more petite." And if it's not because they want to feel small and dainty, it's because they are so lost in Madison Ave's brainwashing that anything short of that standard is inferior.

In a way... having that little bit of padding will automatically filter out the shallow ones, so that's a good thing. It's kinda like being broke. If a girl is with you in spite of that, then you can definitely check off "She only loves me for my money." lol


I agree with what you're saying, its a worthwhile observation, but I also find myself in a bind regarding chemistry. For whatever reason I'm just attracted to many people, have had a hard time dating when I feel like I'm just going through the motions (feels like I'm both taken and still single - utterly unenthusiastic), and I realize that I'd need to be with someone who lights me up.

Absolutely true as well that looks are the base line, necessary but minimum requirement - the personality is the hardest part as well as match in priorities, similarly solid chemistry flowing back the other way. As a guy though, and being that I still have to admit that I am visual. While its true that I don't want to date a shallow girl if she's shallow in the priorities sense (I need someone who's intelligent and introspective, can follow maybe rival me in abstract thought, musings, etc.) I still feel like I'd need something like a 7 or upward on most people's looks meters (some 6's here and there but very obscure). I can't see myself being in the right to say 'I want a girl who's not shallow', want her to be attractive, without feeling a bit hypocritical unless I do everything I can to give back and - yes - be that attractive for her as well.



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06 May 2010, 10:11 am

Ahhh, how reciprocal of you. lol This reminds me of the common notion that a girl is expected to spend much more time on her appearance than a guy is. She will go to the salon, and all that good stuff, whereas a guy who is going out to the bar has to shave, put on a little cologne, and be semi-stylish in terms of clothing. And sometimes they don't even HAVE to do all that to successfully attract a mate.

I wouldn't mind continuing this conversation with you, but I'm starting to feel like we are thread-crapping, here. lol Then again, you are a moderator, so I don't want to presume to know your job better than you do. <smirk> >=)



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06 May 2010, 10:22 am

Sounds good - either PM or another thread. It sounds like you have a lot of very intelligent thoughts on these issues and I'd love to hear more.

On another note though I'm more of a fix-it guy than an active mod. I agree though, I don't want to clog the feng shui in here either.

So, back to those curves...



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06 May 2010, 11:04 am

@tech, based on the young lady in the pic you posted, I would describe your preferred body type as "athletic" rather than "curvy."


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06 May 2010, 11:17 am

Well, Tech... a quick Google search shows that this young lady is already being scorned for her weight. Fortunately, she doesn't seem to be paying it much mind. Highly admirable. Note the quote...

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“I refuse to conform to this muscly, sinewy look that so many actresses seem to think is attractive, the Daily Star quoted her as saying.

I hate it and I don”t think it’’s very feminine,” she added.


Fetch her address, Tech. She just may be the perfect combination of individuality and aesthetics for ya. ;)



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06 May 2010, 11:49 am

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@tech, based on the young lady in the pic you posted, I would describe your preferred body type as "athletic" rather than "curvy."

Actually that comes compliments of AspenAparagus. Its definitely on point though.

I don't even think its that easy to peg though, athletic but still soft around the edges? When I think of girls who were built like this IRL they were typically what I'd think of as female virile/alpha - ie. girls who, IRL, kinda reminded me of the girls from Descent, feminine but other girls wouldn't want to mess with em for sure.

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Fetch her address, Tech. She just may be the perfect combination of individuality and aesthetics for ya.

Stars are best as a point of reference and left at that, only because we can compare notes on someone who we mutually know-of. If I'd met her at random, didn't know who she was, and had and really connected with her over a beer - different story. Working from fame backward though, never.



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06 May 2010, 11:56 am

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Well, Tech... a quick Google search shows that this young lady is already being scorned for her weight. Fortunately, she doesn't seem to be paying it much mind. Highly admirable. Note the quote...

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“I refuse to conform to this muscly, sinewy look that so many actresses seem to think is attractive, the Daily Star quoted her as saying.

Actually I tend to think most guys prefer the Pink physique, it just looks a lot more healthy. Now, I will admit she'd probably want to stay where she's at - don't lose, don't gain. She'd be wise though to do both cardio and weights, if she isn't already, just to keep things dialed in. Not that a few more pounds aren't within tolerance but - this is millions of pounds sterling per year for her.



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06 May 2010, 12:17 pm

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LOL That this question would be asked of a girl like this is laughable.

Most guys who claim to appreciate "curvy," would call her skinny, and most girls who are obsessed with being Hollywood or Supermodel skinny would call her fat.


Is it just me or does her belly button look a bit weird?


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06 May 2010, 12:21 pm

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Is it just me or does her belly button look a bit weird?


Yes.

Weird, in the sense that my tongue belongs in it, but is conspicuously absent.



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06 May 2010, 12:24 pm

If your tongue was poking out of Gemma Arterton's belly button, I think it'd be weirder still.


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06 May 2010, 2:00 pm

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Is it just me or does her belly button look a bit weird?


Yes.

Weird, in the sense that my tongue belongs in it, but is conspicuously absent.

Do women get into that? I suppose it could be a tease move by a guy but, the navel? Wrong kind of nerves - that's like licking someone's funnybone.



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06 May 2010, 2:10 pm

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Do women get into that? I suppose it could be a tease move by a guy but, the navel? Wrong kind of nerves - that's like licking someone's funnybone.


I also can't fathom how a woman could get off on a guy defecating in her mouth, but yet... that fetish exists. lol

The human mind is a complicated thing to understand, my friend. heh



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06 May 2010, 2:32 pm

Ugh, we've gotta cool it down a notch. I'd rather keep this here than have it get sent to the mature folder - more responders and likely better ones this way :).