Would you date a man who was physically unable to have sex?

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Would you date a man who you knew was physically unable to have sex?
Yes 33%  33%  [ 26 ]
No 15%  15%  [ 12 ]
Maybe 16%  16%  [ 13 ]
I'm a straight male/Just show me the result 36%  36%  [ 29 ]
Total votes : 80

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14 Aug 2010, 4:04 am

People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.



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14 Aug 2010, 9:06 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


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14 Aug 2010, 11:23 am

Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


Its true that there are a lot of asexual women out there that have Aspergers. I have asked the same question on other websites and I have got similar results.



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14 Aug 2010, 11:38 am

Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


even if all members were nts , the poll would be biased....



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14 Aug 2010, 12:07 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


even if all members were nts , the poll would be biased....


True.

Maybe I should contact the people at Kinsey or other groups like that who may have done studies on this.



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14 Aug 2010, 12:19 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


even if all members were nts , the poll would be biased....


True.

Maybe I should contact the people at Kinsey or other groups like that who may have done studies on this.

well, you have an answer here. why do you need to know what 1000 or 10,000 women think? it's more important to know what one single woman thinks - the woman you are going for in IRL. all of the statistics in the world would not change what each person feels when confronted with the actual possiblity of dating someone who can't have sex.

people have said that many individuals on WP are asexual - well, isn't that what you need? why discount the opinions of the actual people you could attract in real-life situations?

the best option is to get to know a woman, start dating her, than ask HER. everyone else's opinions are irrelevant. even if the odds are against you and 98% of women in the world would not have a relationship with a man who can't have sex, so what? there is hope in the 2%. gathering statistical information will not help you with getting a real relationship started.


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14 Aug 2010, 12:29 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


even if all members were nts , the poll would be biased....


True.

Maybe I should contact the people at Kinsey or other groups like that who may have done studies on this.

well, you have an answer here. why do you need to know what 1000 or 10,000 women think? it's more important to know what one single woman thinks - the woman you are going for in IRL. all of the statistics in the world would not change what each person feels when confronted with the actual possiblity of dating someone who can't have sex.

people have said that many individuals on WP are asexual - well, isn't that what you need? why discount the opinions of the actual people you could attract in real-life situations?

the best option is to get to know a woman, start dating her, than ask HER. everyone else's opinions are irrelevant. even if the odds are against you and 98% of women in the world would not have a relationship with a man who can't have sex, so what? there is hope in the 2%. gathering statistical information will not help you with getting a real relationship started.


You are right and you are wrong at the same time. If there in fact is a very large percentage of women who can be in a relationship with a guy who can not have sex then that makes me feel more confident in my ability to meet and attract women. If its only a tiny percentage then I might need to move to a larger urban area to find the kind of women who can be in that kind of relationship.



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14 Aug 2010, 1:17 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


even if all members were nts , the poll would be biased....


True.

Maybe I should contact the people at Kinsey or other groups like that who may have done studies on this.

well, you have an answer here. why do you need to know what 1000 or 10,000 women think? it's more important to know what one single woman thinks - the woman you are going for in IRL. all of the statistics in the world would not change what each person feels when confronted with the actual possiblity of dating someone who can't have sex.

people have said that many individuals on WP are asexual - well, isn't that what you need? why discount the opinions of the actual people you could attract in real-life situations?

the best option is to get to know a woman, start dating her, than ask HER. everyone else's opinions are irrelevant. even if the odds are against you and 98% of women in the world would not have a relationship with a man who can't have sex, so what? there is hope in the 2%. gathering statistical information will not help you with getting a real relationship started.


You are right and you are wrong at the same time. If there in fact is a very large percentage of women who can be in a relationship with a guy who can not have sex then that makes me feel more confident in my ability to meet and attract women. If its only a tiny percentage then I might need to move to a larger urban area to find the kind of women who can be in that kind of relationship.


No. She's entirely right. You are wasting your time collecting meaningless statistics. Trying to apply meaningless statistics to real life would be an even worse waste of time and resources. There is no reason to think you would be more likely to find such a woman in a large urban area just because there are more women. For all you know, picking up and moving might very well move you away from a woman who would be ok with it. There is not some sort of even distribution of preferences. The reason people advise moving to cities for particular preferences (such as being gay) is that people with a particular preference will often form a community and these communities attract new members who move to a city specifically because of an established community: San Francisco.

But as far as I know, there is no organized community of women who would be ok with a man who can;t have sex (or rather, who can't enjoy it- whichever it is). So moving to a city doesn't confer any advantage. You are assuming that greater population means greater chance of meeting such a woman but it doesn't. Women looking for sexless partners aren't flocking to cities to join the "sexless partner" community because there isn't one.

Your statistics also won't be accurate even if every single person answers absolutely truthfully. That's because what is "truth" changes when a person moves from the hypothetical to the actual. Somebody could very truthfully answer "no" when thinking about this in theory but decide "yes" after getting to know a particular man. People change their minds based on the situation they are in. People also think they want things a certain way hypothetically because they lack a certain experience but once they confront the actuality, it turns out that they were wrong about what they thought they would want. Face of Boo wrote a thread about a woman who said she would only date a Muslim and wound up with a non-Muslim. So that makes your statistics meaningless.

Hyperlexian is 100% right. There is only one woman who's opinion matters and that is the woman you are dating. And what she would answer on this poll has little relation to what decisions she would make in her actual life.



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14 Aug 2010, 1:25 pm

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Face of Boo wrote a thread about a woman who said she would only date a Muslim and wound up with a non-Muslim. So that makes your statistics meaningless.


yea....what a story... =(



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14 Aug 2010, 3:11 pm

Janissy wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
JohnisBlind wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Peko wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
People on forums tend to be idealists,it's so easy to be ideal while sitting behind the screen, I would take this poll with a grain of salt.


You said it... if the survey includes mostly asexual women/men or straight males its going to be biased.


even if all members were nts , the poll would be biased....


True.

Maybe I should contact the people at Kinsey or other groups like that who may have done studies on this.

well, you have an answer here. why do you need to know what 1000 or 10,000 women think? it's more important to know what one single woman thinks - the woman you are going for in IRL. all of the statistics in the world would not change what each person feels when confronted with the actual possiblity of dating someone who can't have sex.

people have said that many individuals on WP are asexual - well, isn't that what you need? why discount the opinions of the actual people you could attract in real-life situations?

the best option is to get to know a woman, start dating her, than ask HER. everyone else's opinions are irrelevant. even if the odds are against you and 98% of women in the world would not have a relationship with a man who can't have sex, so what? there is hope in the 2%. gathering statistical information will not help you with getting a real relationship started.


You are right and you are wrong at the same time. If there in fact is a very large percentage of women who can be in a relationship with a guy who can not have sex then that makes me feel more confident in my ability to meet and attract women. If its only a tiny percentage then I might need to move to a larger urban area to find the kind of women who can be in that kind of relationship.


No. She's entirely right. You are wasting your time collecting meaningless statistics. Trying to apply meaningless statistics to real life would be an even worse waste of time and resources. There is no reason to think you would be more likely to find such a woman in a large urban area just because there are more women. For all you know, picking up and moving might very well move you away from a woman who would be ok with it. There is not some sort of even distribution of preferences. The reason people advise moving to cities for particular preferences (such as being gay) is that people with a particular preference will often form a community and these communities attract new members who move to a city specifically because of an established community: San Francisco.

But as far as I know, there is no organized community of women who would be ok with a man who can;t have sex (or rather, who can't enjoy it- whichever it is). So moving to a city doesn't confer any advantage. You are assuming that greater population means greater chance of meeting such a woman but it doesn't. Women looking for sexless partners aren't flocking to cities to join the "sexless partner" community because there isn't one.

Your statistics also won't be accurate even if every single person answers absolutely truthfully. That's because what is "truth" changes when a person moves from the hypothetical to the actual. Somebody could very truthfully answer "no" when thinking about this in theory but decide "yes" after getting to know a particular man. People change their minds based on the situation they are in. People also think they want things a certain way hypothetically because they lack a certain experience but once they confront the actuality, it turns out that they were wrong about what they thought they would want. Face of Boo wrote a thread about a woman who said she would only date a Muslim and wound up with a non-Muslim. So that makes your statistics meaningless.

Hyperlexian is 100% right. There is only one woman who's opinion matters and that is the woman you are dating. And what she would answer on this poll has little relation to what decisions she would make in her actual life.


Well I am still trying to answer the question of how people value sexuality. Maybe its neurotic impulse that is driving me but since you are not actually in my shoes and its only hypothetical to you maybe its harder for you to understand the kind of question I am asking.



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14 Aug 2010, 3:25 pm

JohnisBlind wrote:
Janissy wrote:

No. She's entirely right. You are wasting your time collecting meaningless statistics. Trying to apply meaningless statistics to real life would be an even worse waste of time and resources. There is no reason to think you would be more likely to find such a woman in a large urban area just because there are more women. For all you know, picking up and moving might very well move you away from a woman who would be ok with it. There is not some sort of even distribution of preferences. The reason people advise moving to cities for particular preferences (such as being gay) is that people with a particular preference will often form a community and these communities attract new members who move to a city specifically because of an established community: San Francisco.

But as far as I know, there is no organized community of women who would be ok with a man who can;t have sex (or rather, who can't enjoy it- whichever it is). So moving to a city doesn't confer any advantage. You are assuming that greater population means greater chance of meeting such a woman but it doesn't. Women looking for sexless partners aren't flocking to cities to join the "sexless partner" community because there isn't one.

Your statistics also won't be accurate even if every single person answers absolutely truthfully. That's because what is "truth" changes when a person moves from the hypothetical to the actual. Somebody could very truthfully answer "no" when thinking about this in theory but decide "yes" after getting to know a particular man. People change their minds based on the situation they are in. People also think they want things a certain way hypothetically because they lack a certain experience but once they confront the actuality, it turns out that they were wrong about what they thought they would want. Face of Boo wrote a thread about a woman who said she would only date a Muslim and wound up with a non-Muslim. So that makes your statistics meaningless.

Hyperlexian is 100% right. There is only one woman who's opinion matters and that is the woman you are dating. And what she would answer on this poll has little relation to what decisions she would make in her actual life.


Well I am still trying to answer the question of how people value sexuality. Maybe its neurotic impulse that is driving me but since you are not actually in my shoes and its only hypothetical to you maybe its harder for you to understand the kind of question I am asking.

thanks Janissy! i didn't know if was making sense. you worded it much more clearly.

JohnisBlind: your questions about sex, in all their various forms, have been answered on this forum. now we have answered this newest question, and it is notable that no answer is ever good enough to satisfy you.

as it has been said to you repeatedly by others here on WP, perhaps you need to look inward and work on the problems inside of you, instead of looking outward for answers.... polls, studies and arguments won't fix what's broken.


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14 Aug 2010, 4:03 pm

Johnisblind - stop opening new threads about the same topic. You are asking questions that have already been answered.


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14 Aug 2010, 4:30 pm

I'm an asexual male, but I am physically capable of sex. I don't date guys, but I go out with them as friends all the time. My girlfriend has not made any demands of me for sex so I'm good. If it was important enough to her, I would, just to keep her happy.

So if the quest was reversed, sure, I would date a girl that couldn't have sex.



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14 Aug 2010, 8:13 pm

n4mwd wrote:
I'm an asexual male, but I am physically capable of sex. I don't date guys, but I go out with them as friends all the time. My girlfriend has not made any demands of me for sex so I'm good. If it was important enough to her, I would, just to keep her happy.

So if the quest was reversed, sure, I would date a girl that couldn't have sex.



I wander if being asexual is the same experience as me though. What kind of other things do you do besides sex that is satisfying?



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Yes.

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You want to know why? Because you don't need sex for sexual pleasure, and you don't need it for intimacy and closeness, and theres more to a relationship.


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Yes.

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You want to know why? Because you don't need sex for sexual pleasure, and you don't need it for intimacy and closeness, and theres more to a relationship.


True