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24 Nov 2010, 11:33 pm

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...a pattern in her life where she is sexually or romantically attracted to a majority of the men who show any interest in her, yet the guys all see her as no more than a friend, and this causes frustration? Women seem to complain endlessly when men report their lives following such a pattern, but I think this is partly because almost no woman is ever in that position. Though I'm welcome to be proven wrong.


I'm romantically interested in most any woman who's nice to me but NO women are ever interested in being anything more than a friend with me(except maybe for an emotional tampon that they use to complain to about how the jerks they are with don't respect em). I'm unable to get any woman at all to give me a chance(unless homosexual guys who hit on me count) yet it seems like most every woman has guys interested in em but the women may not interested in those guys. Are there any women here who are not able to have a single guy interested in em even if the guys are creepy, perverted ect because NO women at all are interested in me


Honestly you really wouldn't want a creepy, perverted (or female equivalent of) woman interested in you. It is not fun to have someone you are NOT attracted to, and don't want anything to do with pursuing you. It is not a good thing.

no my ex aspie bf was always saying how he couldnt understand about womem complaining about creepy men coming onto them and claimed he wouldnt mind. so I suggested he imagined a middle aged aspie lady we know, squeezing his knee and he imediately was grossed out and shuddered. Its because guys imagine ok women busting moves on them, not creepy or gross ones.


That doesn't really gross me out. Age is not important to me & looks are not really important to me either. I just want someone who won't butt-f#ck me or want me to suck a d!ck


What if she treated your poorly and was always putting you down?
What about poor hygiene?
Skin tags?
Rotten teeth?
A bad fungal infection?
What if she were your aunt or some other close female relative?


I know those questions weren't directed at me, but I'll answer them.

If she treated me poorly and put me down all the time, I wouldn't like that. Certain kinds of poor hygiene I could deal with, certain not. I don't know what skin tags are. The rotten teeth and bad fungal infection would definitely put me off. About the relatives, I seem to lack an incest avoidance mechanism for some reason.

But in any case, I'm sure most women could find men who did not have these things.

And I'm not (in this thread at least) claiming women don't have their problems either. I'm just trying to get a sense of how many women experience this SPECIFIC problem I was mentioning in my OP.



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25 Nov 2010, 1:39 am

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If she treated me poorly and put me down all the time, I wouldn't like that. Certain kinds of poor hygiene I could deal with, certain not. I don't know what skin tags are. The rotten teeth and bad fungal infection would definitely put me off. About the relatives, I seem to lack an incest avoidance mechanism for some reason.


Maybe you should go for Mrs O'Problem or Lady fuzzy tongue if you whine so much on here about your sexual frustration about how women have it so easy when awful, creepy men come onto them and how you "wouldn't mind" it if it was an awful creepy woman came onto you.



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25 Nov 2010, 2:09 am

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How much do you talk to women? How much do you ask them out?

I've asked out quite a few women in the past that I was friends with. I ended up ruining lots of friendships by asking women out



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25 Nov 2010, 2:14 am

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How much do you talk to women? How much do you ask them out?

I've asked out quite a few women in the past that I was friends with. I ended up ruining lots of friendships by asking women out


Perhaps you're just better of keeping them as aquantences before you ask them out? I mean you can still get to know then just not too deeply.



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25 Nov 2010, 2:16 am

nick why do you keep going on and on about it if no women will EVER give you a chance and no women EVER like you? If that is the case, then whining about it on here isn';t gonna change that



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25 Nov 2010, 2:51 am

hale_bopp wrote:
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How much do you talk to women? How much do you ask them out?

I've asked out quite a few women in the past that I was friends with. I ended up ruining lots of friendships by asking women out


Perhaps you're just better of keeping them as aquantences before you ask them out? I mean you can still get to know then just not too deeply.


I guess


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nick why do you keep going on and on about it if no women will EVER give you a chance and no women EVER like you? If that is the case, then whining about it on here isn';t gonna change that

I think a woman would give me a chance if was something like an arrange marriage but we don't have that here so I'm trying to think of other ways I can get a woman to give me a chance. Typical methods to get women are obviously not working for me. Whining/ranting/complaining helps me feel better & sort things out



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25 Nov 2010, 2:54 am

Since nobody's ever shown me any interest IRL, I've never been attracted to them. Because of my experiences growing up, I cannot feel random attraction for a random guy.



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25 Nov 2010, 4:21 am

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If she treated me poorly and put me down all the time, I wouldn't like that. Certain kinds of poor hygiene I could deal with, certain not. I don't know what skin tags are. The rotten teeth and bad fungal infection would definitely put me off. About the relatives, I seem to lack an incest avoidance mechanism for some reason.


Maybe you should go for Mrs O'Problem or Lady fuzzy tongue if you whine so much on here about your sexual frustration about how women have it so easy when awful, creepy men come onto them and how you "wouldn't mind" it if it was an awful creepy woman came onto you.


Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean by "awful, creepy men". If you mean overgrown weird facial hair, missing teeth, possibly contagious skin infections, strong alcohol smell, etc., then I totally understand why getting randomly hit on by those type of men would put you off. If you just mean men who look average and want sex without strings attached, then that's a quite different story.

And since you brought it up, I will say that maybe some of the women I would like could be seen as creepy by other women. There is something interesting about a woman who can find "second-grade-boyish" fascination in bodily functions, and also I know that some women with manic-type disorders can show sudden, passionate bouts of hypersexuality. So maybe I do like certain "sick" women, just of the internal, mood-unstable and pervy kind, rather than the externally evident kind.



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25 Nov 2010, 4:29 am

Are you hot?



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25 Nov 2010, 11:12 am

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There is something interesting about a woman who can find "second-grade-boyish" fascination in bodily functions, and also I know that some women with manic-type disorders can show sudden, passionate bouts of hypersexuality. So maybe I do like certain "sick" women, just of the internal, mood-unstable and pervy kind, rather than the externally evident kind.


Then find a crazy woman. Shouldn't be that hard.



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25 Nov 2010, 12:12 pm

nick007 wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
nick007 wrote:
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How much do you talk to women? How much do you ask them out?

I've asked out quite a few women in the past that I was friends with. I ended up ruining lots of friendships by asking women out


Perhaps you're just better of keeping them as aquantences before you ask them out? I mean you can still get to know then just not too deeply.


I guess


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nick why do you keep going on and on about it if no women will EVER give you a chance and no women EVER like you? If that is the case, then whining about it on here isn';t gonna change that

I think a woman would give me a chance if was something like an arrange marriage but we don't have that here so I'm trying to think of other ways I can get a woman to give me a chance. Typical methods to get women are obviously not working for me. Whining/ranting/complaining helps me feel better & sort things out


I think you need to stop thinking about it in terms of women giving you a chance, and start thinking about in more in terms of mutual assets. Also, while it's nice to be friends with someone before you date them, in most cases, it doesn't work if you allow yourself to be a friend with someone too long. As hale_bopp proposed, it's better to ask out those who you are not very close friends with. It's also better to make your intentions of wanting to date someone known relatively soon in the relationship.



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25 Nov 2010, 12:29 pm

Chronos wrote:
I think you need to stop thinking about it in terms of women giving you a chance, and start thinking about in more in terms of mutual assets. Also, while it's nice to be friends with someone before you date them, in most cases, it doesn't work if you allow yourself to be a friend with someone too long. As hale_bopp proposed, it's better to ask out those who you are not very close friends with. It's also better to make your intentions of wanting to date someone known relatively soon in the relationship.

i completely disagree with this. there is no reason to let someone know right away that you want to date them, unless you aren't actually interested in being friends at all. and honestly, if a guy was not interested in even being friends with me at all, then i would never, ever date him. being someone's friend is an integral part of any long-term relationship.

i've dated guys after we were "just friends" for months or even years. often, feelings and attraction grow out of the friendship.

a willingness to be friends with someone (even if a person is not gettng sex or romantic love out of it) demonstrates that a person has some kind of worthy character and is worth spending time with.


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25 Nov 2010, 1:02 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
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I think you need to stop thinking about it in terms of women giving you a chance, and start thinking about in more in terms of mutual assets. Also, while it's nice to be friends with someone before you date them, in most cases, it doesn't work if you allow yourself to be a friend with someone too long. As hale_bopp proposed, it's better to ask out those who you are not very close friends with. It's also better to make your intentions of wanting to date someone known relatively soon in the relationship.

i completely disagree with this. there is no reason to let someone know right away that you want to date them, unless you aren't actually interested in being friends at all. and honestly, if a guy was not interested in even being friends with me at all, then i would never, ever date him. being someone's friend is an integral part of any long-term relationship.

i've dated guys after we were "just friends" for months or even years. often, feelings and attraction grow out of the friendship.

a willingness to be friends with someone (even if a person is not gettng sex or romantic love out of it) demonstrates that a person has some kind of worthy character and is worth spending time with.


I didn't say right away.I said relatively soon.



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25 Nov 2010, 1:25 pm

Not even soon!
Sometimes after YEARS the feelings develop on both ends.



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25 Nov 2010, 1:30 pm

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Not even soon!
Sometimes after YEARS the feelings develop on both ends.


Rarely. You would be buried first if you were waiting for me.



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25 Nov 2010, 1:33 pm

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Not even soon!
Sometimes after YEARS the feelings develop on both ends.


Rarely. You would be buried first if you were waiting for me.


Okay..?
My boyfriend and I were friends for a long time before I even thought about him in that way.
He was just a brilliant friend.