Abusive relationships, an opportunity to learn about them

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18 May 2011, 9:52 pm

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Re: some symptoms of abusers resembling symptoms of Asperger's

That's a little scary, in the sense of providing even more incentive to work on self-understanding and self-control.

It's important to note that people can meet a few criteria on that list & not be abusers at all. I think what's important is that we understand how those issues could be potential problems & also that that we try to explain it to our partners so we can try to work on the issues together. Some of those issues may have certain triggers & having our partners know what those triggers are & how they can respond can be quite helpful


It is also important to note that most abusers don't see themselves as abusers and that abuse can go both ways in a relationship.

Just because there is a "reason" for the abuse to occur eg. An Autistic meltdown, it is still a case of abuse if victim feels scared or hurt.

Of coarse but if the partners can understand what the meltdowns are related to; they might could be minimized. Like in my case I tend to take disagreements too personally sometimes & I can get caught up in debating/arguing & then become very angry. It would be best if my partner could change the subject, give me a little space for a bit or drop the issue when things start to get heated instead of continuing the debate.


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18 May 2011, 9:53 pm

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Yes different countries have different laws and attitudes towards different abuses.

Here an Abuser will not be made to limit contact with their offspring unless physical, Sexual or Drug abuse is involved.


Here, access to the children depends solely on how the abuser has treated them. This, naturally, often leads to abused/murdered children.


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18 May 2011, 9:56 pm

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Hmm ive never been in a abusive relationship but I dont mind being abused by a girl its a turn on :D


Consensual non-consent is not abuse.


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18 May 2011, 9:58 pm

nick007 wrote:
Solvejg wrote:
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Re: some symptoms of abusers resembling symptoms of Asperger's

That's a little scary, in the sense of providing even more incentive to work on self-understanding and self-control.

It's important to note that people can meet a few criteria on that list & not be abusers at all. I think what's important is that we understand how those issues could be potential problems & also that that we try to explain it to our partners so we can try to work on the issues together. Some of those issues may have certain triggers & having our partners know what those triggers are & how they can respond can be quite helpful


It is also important to note that most abusers don't see themselves as abusers and that abuse can go both ways in a relationship.

Just because there is a "reason" for the abuse to occur eg. An Autistic meltdown, it is still a case of abuse if victim feels scared or hurt.

Of coarse but if the partners can understand what the meltdowns are related to; they might could be minimized. Like in my case I tend to take disagreements too personally sometimes & I can get caught up in debating/arguing & then become very angry. It would be best if my partner could change the subject, give me a little space for a bit or drop the issue when things start to get heated instead of continuing the debate.


If you removed yourself from the situation and your partner continued to push you, then that is also a form of emotional abuse.

If however you just tirades and they removed themselves when the discussion was getting too much and you followed them to continually push your point and belittle them, then you would be abusing them


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18 May 2011, 9:59 pm

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Of coarse but if the partners can understand what the meltdowns are related to; they might could be minimized. Like in my case I tend to take disagreements too personally sometimes & I can get caught up in debating/arguing & then become very angry. It would be best if my partner could change the subject, give me a little space for a bit or drop the issue when things start to get heated instead of continuing the debate.


You are not the only one that matters in a relationship. finding ways to overcome these issues of yours should be your top priority... not saying your partner has to deal with it.


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18 May 2011, 10:14 pm

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Solvejg wrote:
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Re: some symptoms of abusers resembling symptoms of Asperger's

That's a little scary, in the sense of providing even more incentive to work on self-understanding and self-control.

It's important to note that people can meet a few criteria on that list & not be abusers at all. I think what's important is that we understand how those issues could be potential problems & also that that we try to explain it to our partners so we can try to work on the issues together. Some of those issues may have certain triggers & having our partners know what those triggers are & how they can respond can be quite helpful


It is also important to note that most abusers don't see themselves as abusers and that abuse can go both ways in a relationship.

Just because there is a "reason" for the abuse to occur eg. An Autistic meltdown, it is still a case of abuse if victim feels scared or hurt.

Of coarse but if the partners can understand what the meltdowns are related to; they might could be minimized. Like in my case I tend to take disagreements too personally sometimes & I can get caught up in debating/arguing & then become very angry. It would be best if my partner could change the subject, give me a little space for a bit or drop the issue when things start to get heated instead of continuing the debate.


If you removed yourself from the situation and your partner continued to push you, then that is also a form of emotional abuse.

If however you just tirades and they removed themselves when the discussion was getting too much and you followed them to continually push your point and belittle them, then you would be abusing them

What if they resort to insults like call me stupid or something & I get ticked off & yell insults rite back :?:

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Of coarse but if the partners can understand what the meltdowns are related to; they might could be minimized. Like in my case I tend to take disagreements too personally sometimes & I can get caught up in debating/arguing & then become very angry. It would be best if my partner could change the subject, give me a little space for a bit or drop the issue when things start to get heated instead of continuing the debate.


You are not the only one that matters in a relationship. finding ways to overcome these issues of yours should be your top priority... not saying your partner has to deal with it.

Your rite but I will have to deal with my partners issues as well thou so I think this is where compromising comes in. We both should learn how to deal with & help with each others issues. & BTW I do not think I am the only one that matters in a relationship. I would generally try to put my partner 1st but there are times when I get upset & emotional


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18 May 2011, 10:22 pm

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What if they resort to insults like call me stupid or something & I get ticked off & yell insults rite back :?:


They are abusing you and often times when someone is abused they strike back.

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Your rite but I will have to deal with my partners issues as well thou so I think this is where compromising comes in. We both should learn how to deal with & help with each others issues. & BTW I do not think I am the only one that matters in a relationship. I would generally try to put my partner 1st but there are times when I get upset & emotional


Compromise is definitely good.


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18 May 2011, 10:26 pm

I was abused, as a child, by my brothers, step mom. I have been threw emotional, abuse, before. But I just ended up turning cold, because of it. I dealt with the abuse, by writing poetry, in school. I was a bully in high school making others suffer to make the pain go away. But it didnt it only my me feel worse inside.



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18 May 2011, 10:27 pm

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What if they resort to insults like call me stupid or something & I get ticked off & yell insults rite back :?:


They are abusing you and often times when someone is abused they strike back.


Yes that is abuse and you should look at couples counseling in that situation.


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18 May 2011, 10:35 pm

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What if they resort to insults like call me stupid or something & I get ticked off & yell insults rite back :?:


They are abusing you and often times when someone is abused they strike back.

I've been told quite often from my parents that I interpret things as insults & being offensive when they weren't meant that way. I'm very bad at handling constructive criticism sometimes. I think it may be related to being bullied a lot. Maybe kind of like Post Traumatic Stress in a way. I feel I'm being attacked emotionally & I have to fight back emotionally to defend myself emotionally. I have gotten a lot better sense I was a teen & young adult but I still have moments.


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18 May 2011, 10:36 pm

I was dating this girl, but she ended up. Breaking my heart, just to hurt me. It turns out I was apart of some game her friends where playing. I of course of the pawn the game was how bad could she hurt me. After we had sex she was my first she messed around with my best friend. It didnt take very long to get over her but it took forever to make the pain go away