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^ and why the term girl would mean 'completely useless'? and what 'don't be like a boy' said to a girl would mean in that case, "don't be a PS3 addict?"

I apologize The_Face_of_Boo but I do not understand your wording.

Several people provided examples of how women are routinely told to in essence "woman up", in different words.

Nice to see you ignored them.

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It's indicative of the level of sexism in our society when a term for females is quite literally considered an insult.

I tried to point this out using irony for a while, but it didn't work. When someone would use "girl" as an insult, I'd chime in with, "Yea, 'cause girls are bad." No one got the irony, so I gave up.

Ok ValentineWiggin this is where I get genuinely confused, I do not see any of what I said to be considered an insult directly to women just to men. All men, and women know that girls are physically weaker and it's been said over and over in marriage and other crap that women stress over a lot of things and talk too much. So then it's a major fetching contradiction for a women to get pissed off when they hear that they are fragile and so on, when they are. So help me understand this if you'd be so kind.

Your entire post displays sexism. I don't blame you, growing up in the southwest you pick it up from the environment and believe it without question. I had to question everything I knew, eventually, and lot turned out to be incorrect. Just because you believe it doesn't make it a fact. If you generalize about people by race, that's racism. If you generalize about people by sex, that's sexism. People will feel insulted.

You are correct and I apologize. Hey! jrjones9933 thanks for not chastising my butt off.

The whole point of this web site is helping people with their struggle, not helping is immediately judging, help understanding, reduce congestion. Don't always assume someone is attacking you, especially on this site. Ok, new look same taste lol. Have you ever noticed that when people are chastising or creating congestion or cornering someone, the corneree then expresses dogmatic mindset for whatever topic he has stated to make everybody angry? On the other hand, what jrjones9933 did was handle the situation with content and not back me into a corner and thus I listened and did not put up my fists.

I am not criticizing anyone else, I am merely expressing a different point of view that may or may not ultimately just be another grain of sand under the boot.

To tell a man to stop being a woman is an insult to both the man and women in general. It implies that women are in some form substandard and not a type of person to aspire to be.

Back in grade school I was once told I ran like a girl. This statement always confused me because I am a girl, how else would I run? It's an unfortunate cultural standard to still consider emotional/sensitive traits as weak or feminine and rough/hard/violent ones as strong or masculine.

These terms/ideas are throw backs to older times when women were not allowed to do anything more then be mothers and wives or burdens to their families. This reminds me of an old folk song who's name I can't remember. "Hard is the fortune of all women kind, they're always controlled they're always confined. Controlled by their parents until they are wives and slaves to their husbands the rest of their lives." it was written just over a hounded and fifty years ago. Women in America have only had the vote for about a century and have only been allowed to do "man's work" since the 1960s or so, not counting war time when there were no men to do it. We are also, to this day, payed less for our skills and work abilities regardless of their quality, again this is in America.

Once I read a report about the most gender unbiased countries in the world. If I am not mistaken it was Sweden that topped the list. The quote I remember said something about "if a woman has her hands full of heavy boxes she wouldn't/couldn't expect a man to come and open a door for her." The article permanently changed my ideas of what was Equality. I seems unreasonable, to me, to request special treatment and still be considered equal.

Man up/woman up all still comes down to Grow up and accept personal responsibility for your actions. Judging people by gender, sexual orientation or race is to be discouraged by people who embrace equality, actions show you who a person is.

URGH.
Biology means something in the right context. But personal identities are not always biologically designated. And so, "true manliness" is nothing more than identifying as male. Whether you have a penis or not means nothing.

You made me think about some extreme Muslims in the last century..

I am very curious which your culture is.

I am afraid if you will blame me for speaking. Therefore please think I am a man.

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Ok, let me try again, why the word "girl" would be considered as insult to a guy? if you call me Face_of_Booette instead of Face_of_Boo, why should I feel offended?

and should a girl who has been called a man/boy should feel offended too?

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Interesting questions. But it is hard to find answers.

1) Men have more vanity than women... Women can think about specific, real things.trifles. Women are not very rational...But men seems dreaming..They can think things more than trifles..

Women can show themselves as what they like. But men can't.(e.g. shed tears..)

Women can never thinking if they like, she would never receive any blame from others for she is never thinking...But men can't...

Women does not need to make money if they like, without any harm..But men are not...

Men must be.... But women don't need to..


No... It varies...I can only quote some stereotypes...

Be a woman...Is it in a derogatory sense for the word 'woman' itself?

It can also be some elegant things, beautiful things, which we think about as unachievable...A remote sense. A beautiful imagination..Like women in poetry.

Men do practise. When they are practising, they are also take women into their imagination and theories. Such unachievable women thus occured... Then these women can incarnate themselves into real women, the unachievable devine being thus became a tempting challenge....

A typical oriental answer.

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Haha, you can read my mind, metaphysics. I am finding hard to understand everything in your wording but I got the main message, yes it's a typical oriental mentality and I can't blame you, you are the product of your own culture after all. What I really find tragic in our cultures (the oriental cultures at least) , that man is a man and woman is a woman and there's literally no room for anyone to be just a bit human, you are either totally a gender or you're nothing.

I've heard the term "Woman up" or "Woman out" It ALWAYS has to do with weight. If a woman is thin apparently she's not a real woman and hasn't womaned up yet. It's a shame there is such an obsession over women's bodies that even women oppress other women.

whut? never heard that expression in my life, much less as an insult to thin women. do you live in an area of 90% obesity, so that a thin body stands out? cuz that's really strange.