Does your social ineptness surprise your friends?
I'd want to know what kind of owl it was, too. I would have probably responded in a way that highlighted his ignorance, such as, "There's over 200 different kinds of owls. Unless you can tell me which one it was, I thought it'd be easier to just ask what it looked like." Mr. Funnypants would shut up then.
Heh. Yeah, there are some persistent rumours about my sexual preferences as well. I generally leave them be. I find them amusing.
I also do the exact same thing as AsteroidNap. I try to just ask questions and go on and on from there. It's a nice way to have a conversation. Just make the other person do an info dump on you.
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Heh. Yeah, there are some persistent rumours about my sexual preferences as well. I generally leave them be. I find them amusing.
I also do the exact same thing as AsteroidNap. I try to just ask questions and go on and on from there. It's a nice way to have a conversation. Just make the other person do an info dump on you.
Yes my mother can not believe I have never had a boyfriend. She worries I will never marry.
So she used to try and bribe me, boyfriend for a bag. I think she finally have up though..
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Heh. Yeah, there are some persistent rumours about my sexual preferences as well. I generally leave them be. I find them amusing.
I also do the exact same thing as AsteroidNap. I try to just ask questions and go on and on from there. It's a nice way to have a conversation. Just make the other person do an info dump on you.
Yes my mother can not believe I have never had a boyfriend. She worries I will never marry.
So she used to try and bribe me, boyfriend for a bag. I think she finally have up though..
Well, you have the advantage (or disadvantage) of being female, so you have it easier at finding a boyfriend. I think most people just assume that I'm hopeless with girls (which isn't really a bad assumption), so that there's no point in bribing, and actually talking about it is socially awkward because it might hurt my feelings.
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Bzzzzzt.
Women do not "have it easier".
I'm sorry, allow me to posit it this way: "Perception is that girls have it easier because it is expected that men make the first move. Hence, all girls "should" have options. If a girl does not get a boyfriend, it is usually thought to be a matter of choice, whereas if a boy does not get a girlfriend, he is simply not good with the girls."
That is likely why the girl I replied to had her mother trying to bribe her: because the woman is expected to choose from her suitors. I don't think I've ever heard of someone trying to bribe a man into dating.
The dating scene is not very forgivable on women either. Men are overall not a very nice species, and falling in with the wrong one can be a living hell (I've certainly seen this in my female friends).
My apologies for the poor wording of my post.
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Bzzzzzt.
Women do not "have it easier".
I was so hoping that would slip by unnoticed...
But I see that Artros made a nice recovery, flame-war averted...
Bzzzzzt.
Women do not "have it easier".
I was so hoping that would slip by unnoticed...
But I see that Artros made a nice recovery, flame-war averted...
Is it my turn now to do ALL CAPS OMG FOR THE LOVE OF ALL WE NEED CAPS!! !!
I actually found inaccuracies in the statements Artros made in his attempt to clarify but decided it was not worth pursuing. But since you've decided his "recovery" was "nice" and that any disagreement would only be a "flame-war", I suppose I'll add a note or two. People are going to stick to the misapprehension that women "have it easier", even if they put different words to it to try to soften the stereotype. It is only true to say that there are some people who manage to walk outside their door to find a lay or a relationship depending on their preference, whereas there are some people who have serious trouble finding either, even if they'd be good in bed or in a relationship. Then there's most people who fall somewhere in between those two extremes. This goes beyond sex, gender and orientation. While stereotypes can make communication easier, it doesn't always make it accurate.
i do not have any true friends in the sense that i think average people have them. i know 2 people who sometimes ring me and rarely see me. they are not surprised by my lack of social integration because they have known me since i was a child, and i was the same then.
sometimes if they are with me when i interact with members of the public, they are embarrassed about my manner, but they are not surprised.
I was smiling / being really inappropriate the whole time. Never cried. And I was quite sad, loved the man more than anyone else in the world. But my face could not act sad, I really can not figure out why.
To this day so many people think I am a mean psychopath, but really my face is just to hard to control, and will do whatever it wants. So inappropriate, a 'friend' that was there still brings it up whenever I see her on facebook or wherever...
I did the exact same thing at my grandfather's funeral.
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It surprises my bf, I think. He generally-considers me intelligent and I'm quite blase about his forceful personality whereas I think a lot of women have capitulated to it before. But I was visiting him this past weekend (meeting the three family members he lives with for the first time), and he, upon five minutes of my arrival, mentions "Oh, we're going to a late birthday party for me that my family's having, with my papaw and grandmother, and aunt so & so and her husband and kids, and my cousins..." Cue me bursting into tears. He also has a lot of friends, it seems, whereas I don't have anyone in the world but him, unless you count my parents an hour and a half away whom I see only about every third weekend. It makes me worry about the future, because I get jealous, both of him for having friends, and of them for "stealing" him away from me (even though most of them have known him for longer than I have).
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Bzzzzzt.
Women do not "have it easier".
I was so hoping that would slip by unnoticed...
But I see that Artros made a nice recovery, flame-war averted...
Is it my turn now to do ALL CAPS OMG FOR THE LOVE OF ALL WE NEED CAPS!! !!
I actually found inaccuracies in the statements Artros made in his attempt to clarify but decided it was not worth pursuing. But since you've decided his "recovery" was "nice" and that any disagreement would only be a "flame-war", I suppose I'll add a note or two. People are going to stick to the misapprehension that women "have it easier", even if they put different words to it to try to soften the stereotype. It is only true to say that there are some people who manage to walk outside their door to find a lay or a relationship depending on their preference, whereas there are some people who have serious trouble finding either, even if they'd be good in bed or in a relationship. Then there's most people who fall somewhere in between those two extremes. This goes beyond sex, gender and orientation. While stereotypes can make communication easier, it doesn't always make it accurate.
Well, I already put my foot in my mouth...so let's put it in even deeper. First off, I'm always happy when someone corrects me or points out something I had not seen before, so thank you. Secondly, I agree that there are, regardless of sex, some people for whom it comes easily and who can pick whomever they want.
However, I do think that we live in a society where it is custom and generally expected that the man makes the move on the woman, not the other way around. This means that if someone is very shy and has problems with making the first move, it would be easier for that person to start a relationship if that person was female rather than male. I am aware that is a slight generalisation as well, but that's the point I was trying to get at.
Also, in this particular context, the stereotypes were even more important because we were discussing the different ways in which people react to males/females who remain single for a long time.
Rereading this post, I realise that all the flames I diverted in the last post are now going to roll over me again, but I just can't resist. >.>
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Bzzzzzt.
Women do not "have it easier".
I was so hoping that would slip by unnoticed...
But I see that Artros made a nice recovery, flame-war averted...
Is it my turn now to do ALL CAPS OMG FOR THE LOVE OF ALL WE NEED CAPS!! !!
I actually found inaccuracies in the statements Artros made in his attempt to clarify but decided it was not worth pursuing. But since you've decided his "recovery" was "nice" and that any disagreement would only be a "flame-war", I suppose I'll add a note or two. People are going to stick to the misapprehension that women "have it easier", even if they put different words to it to try to soften the stereotype. It is only true to say that there are some people who manage to walk outside their door to find a lay or a relationship depending on their preference, whereas there are some people who have serious trouble finding either, even if they'd be good in bed or in a relationship. Then there's most people who fall somewhere in between those two extremes. This goes beyond sex, gender and orientation. While stereotypes can make communication easier, it doesn't always make it accurate.
Well, I already put my foot in my mouth...so let's put it in even deeper. First off, I'm always happy when someone corrects me or points out something I had not seen before, so thank you. Secondly, I agree that there are, regardless of sex, some people for whom it comes easily and who can pick whomever they want.
However, I do think that we live in a society where it is custom and generally expected that the man makes the move on the woman, not the other way around. This means that if someone is very shy and has problems with making the first move, it would be easier for that person to start a relationship if that person was female rather than male. I am aware that is a slight generalisation as well, but that's the point I was trying to get at.
Also, in this particular context, the stereotypes were even more important because we were discussing the different ways in which people react to males/females who remain single for a long time.
Rereading this post, I realise that all the flames I diverted in the last post are now going to roll over me again, but I just can't resist. >.>
The fact that men are expected to approach women is arguably an *obstacle* for women, in that they are (more so than men) expected to passively-wait to be asked out, which, in conjunction with the fact that a few women are asked out left and right, whereas, often, average-looking or even ugly ones are never asked out once, would make it seem that your theory about women having it "easier" is shot, except wherein BOTH the male and female are exceptionally-shy, AND they both have a similar level of overall desirability to the opposite sex. It is easy as a man to think women as a whole just passively-wait for men to approach them, if the only ones you pay attention to are the ones who get approached by men in the first place.
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I was smiling / being really inappropriate the whole time. Never cried. And I was quite sad, loved the man more than anyone else in the world. But my face could not act sad, I really can not figure out why.
To this day so many people think I am a mean psychopath, but really my face is just to hard to control, and will do whatever it wants. So inappropriate, a 'friend' that was there still brings it up whenever I see her on facebook or wherever...
I did the exact same thing at my grandfather's funeral.
At my Grandmother's funeral, the little great-grand-kids felt bored, so I took off my hat/beret and started playing frisbee with them , then tag.
My cousin (in his 20s) even joined in the games.
The way I see it, we revere our Grandmother the best way we know how: by enjoying the life she gave us.
More families should learn to chill-out, play it loose, and just have fun like that.
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