I don't care if people call me a "misogynist"

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17 Aug 2011, 3:06 pm

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So SadAspy, you're saying you've met every single female in the world? I hardly think that's the case. It's exponentially impossible.


No one in human history has ever met everyone in the world.

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17 Aug 2011, 3:08 pm

I'm a big misogyn



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17 Aug 2011, 3:38 pm

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To MXH: I think it's not nice to call someone a troll just because He's sharing his problems on online. that's what this forum is for. to share concerns and problems. it's really annoying when people like you can't find anything nice to say so instead you resort to calling someone a troll.
you should work on that or just do not come to forum if you are going to start calling everyone a troll.

people come to this forum to feel accepted and understood by people with similar issues and being called troll by someone unknown like you, is not something we should experience.

and I disagree with sacrip. I don't think its HIM that needs to change. and I personally think of sacrip as someone who believes that Aspies are the ones who need to change their ways to deal with the NTs.

Because I personally believe it's "people" that need to change whatever their evil, violent, selfish, ignorant ways of perciving things, judging things, categorizing things and doing things.

that's like saying people with Bright minds need to change their ways so that they can function with less bright minds in ordinary ways.

I would never tell Aspies or anyone who feels like this poster that it's YOU that need to change.

it's just matter of finding a person who accepts you for who you are.

and Never ever believe it when someone tells you its YOU that has a problem.

Because People who know the truth and the ones who speak the truth are truly rare in this life.

so of course if you tell the truth of what you know, you will be shunned and misunderstood by the general public. and General public do not like to face the truth nor do they even want to understand the truth about life??

its them that want to exist in ignorance and start calling everyone a CRAZY person.

As for being rejected by women, it's woman's job to reject every single men in order to protect themselves and in order to find the devoted and persistent men. that's how they go about finding the "REAL" one who is interested in something serious.
so it's not you that has experienced this with women but in fact, majority of men including the super stars have experienced the exactly the same stuff you are talking about. it's just that Most men do not want to admit it publically.

and its perfectly understanable to dislike most people. because most people are insecure, self-centered, ignorant, impatient, judgemental, filled with hatred etc.
I can't say I am so much better than them because I am a human being with issues afterall.
but I feel rightful by asserting that Most human beings are extremely selfish and Do no deserve to be Saved by GOD or Do they deserve to end up in such a place like "heaven".
and they certainly do not deserve your unconditional love.

although it's rare but there are often few human beings who truly cherish human lives and practice love in everything they do.

so you are doing the right thing by not necessarily changing your ways to adapt to their ways but by being extremely selective about whom you want to give your trust and unconditional love and avoid the ones who will eventually cause conflict and troubles in further down the road.

I am a misanthrope myself but I treat everyone equally and fairly.


Terribly sorry but you have not seen the stuff this guy has written in the past 6 months so dont talk about it. From condeming people who have sex outside of marriage and telling they are the devils scum and will rot in hell to telling someone suicidal that if their life sucks so much just do it already. I wouldnt call someone a troll had I not seen them enough to know itto be true. I suggest next time you try to object to someone you try to see both sides of the coin before calling the shots.



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17 Aug 2011, 4:14 pm

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Don't mind if they call me a misogynist either. Misogynists aren't born...they're made.

Every women, whether on-line or in real life, has treated me like dirt.


I haven't. Your generalization is hereby proven false.

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17 Aug 2011, 4:34 pm

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SadAspy wrote:
Don't mind if they call me a misogynist either. Misogynists aren't born...they're made.

Every women, whether on-line or in real life, has treated me like dirt.


I haven't. Your generalization is hereby proven false.

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I haven't either. :D



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17 Aug 2011, 4:37 pm

Erisad wrote:
Meow101 wrote:
SadAspy wrote:
Don't mind if they call me a misogynist either. Misogynists aren't born...they're made.

Every women, whether on-line or in real life, has treated me like dirt.


I haven't. Your generalization is hereby proven false.

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I haven't either. :D


Neither have I.


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17 Aug 2011, 4:37 pm

Meow101 wrote:
SadAspy wrote:
Don't mind if they call me a misogynist either. Misogynists aren't born...they're made.

Every women, whether on-line or in real life, has treated me like dirt.


I haven't. Your generalization is hereby proven false.

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I don't recall treating you any different than anyone else here so either I treat everyone like dirt or everyone respectfully.



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18 Aug 2011, 12:02 am

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My point is, we are all really in the same boat, so to speak. We all have experience our fair share of hurt, and negative social experiences, and when you come on here and attack "all women", you are also attacking female members with AS who might feel just as low and hurt as you do....a female version of yourself.

I never really looked at it that way, so I admit I've probably said some things I shouldn't have, but it's hard to overcome the feelings and opinions I have about people in general (male or female) due to the way I was treated growing up.



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18 Aug 2011, 12:15 am

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Chronos wrote:
MR20 wrote:

My point is, we are all really in the same boat, so to speak. We all have experience our fair share of hurt, and negative social experiences, and when you come on here and attack "all women", you are also attacking female members with AS who might feel just as low and hurt as you do....a female version of yourself.

I never really looked at it that way, so I admit I've probably said some things I shouldn't have, but it's hard to overcome the feelings and opinions I have about people in general (male or female) due to the way I was treated growing up.


I understand. It can be very difficult for people to overcome feelings of hurt and emotional trauma, especially when that trauma was incurred in the face of good intentions. This is a website full of people who have had experiences similar to your own and you are among friends in that sense.



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18 Aug 2011, 6:38 pm

I have been accused of being things that I am not. I don't like it. It does not matter who is doing to accusing or why. I don't like it and the words will stick with me for a very long time and HURT. I couldn't imagine saying things on purpose to be hurtful to others just to get them to accuse me of awful things or claiming that their reactions wouldn't matter. I may not be the best hostess in the world or want people in my house every weekend or be able to say the right thing at the right time every time but I don't try to hurt people or not care if I do.



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19 Aug 2011, 6:24 am

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Don't mind if they call me a misogynist either. Misogynists aren't born...they're made.

Every women, whether on-line or in real life, has treated me like dirt.


I will try my best to explain to you why most men are treated like dirt by women.
I don't know if I would classify myself as "attractive woman" but if you are curious, you can google my screen name and judge for yourself. But I have been sexually harassed by men since I was very young. So as a trauma and sexual abuse victim, I automatically distant myself from men and women. and then when I grew up I was treated like a worthless sex-toy by men I was involved with. and I was date-raped multiple times by people I do not know too well. I do think most women have had many uncomfortable sexual advances or men approaching them in the past.

so I can surely say I have been victimised hugely by men who are sort of mental cases. I actually think I have never been approached by any sane men in my life. so basically if a man were to talk to me, whether he is my dad or brother or just someone random on the street, I get pretty angered to the point of wanting to punch him in the face if he says something wrong.
so what I do is I automatically distant myself from people due to causing troubles. and I bet a tons of attractive women who are in their late twenties or thirties most likely have been used or hurt really badly by some control freaks or psycho boyfriends at one point in their lives. At this point, I don't think there is much men can do or say to earn any type of respect for me or genuine kindness. Because I classify most men as selfish who are totally undeserving of my respect and love.
not that I think I deserve their respect and love for being a self-centred demanding b***h.

But My experience with most men tell me that that's the exactly the type of treatment most men deserve for being so abusive and greedy with their desires. Because if I am demanding person, I am sure there are plenty of other women who are way worse. and if you don't treat them like how they expect they should be treated, most likely those men will never get a second chance or they will have to resort to something violent in order to acquire what they desire in the long run.

Do I think it's my job to treat men with ultimate kindness and loving attitude? I don't believe so. although I do try to treat every man with fairness. I always thought it's men's obligation to do whatever necessary to make any women feel comfortable but I guess I am putting my hopes way too high.

The truth is everybody is most likely hurt in some ways. and as a woman, we have most reasons to keep a distance from men than men do. I mean, women are pretty harmless with the possibility of causing physical damage. women can leave emotional scars knowingly and unknowingly but when men get angered, it turns into a violent measure.

and if a man expects a friendly attitude from me without investing anything, I would most likely keep a distance from guys like that. To earn woman's love and trust is insurmountable task and its a life time goal. well, at least that's how I look at it.



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19 Aug 2011, 7:00 am

staralfurious...thanks for the straight talk. It reinforces something a female friend confided in me once. She said that she hated being pretty, absolutely hated it (I can see the virtual eye rolling now by readers). Here's the surprising part though...she didn't hate her looks because of the attention...she hated her looks because it prevented her from being nice. If she was nice, every dude would inevitably believe she was interested in them, and when she rejected them, they'd get all pissy. Well, she got tired of that, and it became easier, as you say, to become distant. But that wasn't her personality either, really, just a coping mechanism.


Now with SadAspy, I see a lot of my 20 something anger in his rants and negativity. I react so vehemently against that now because I've rejected that anger, and that desire to make myself into a victim. Because that's what SadAspy is doing in my opinion...going through an exercise in self-victimization. I know, because I almost took that route too. His little quip about "Misogynists aren't born, they're made" ignores the fact that misogynists are also NOT created out of the very same experiences he's going through. He has that choice yet to either go down that path or not.



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19 Aug 2011, 10:53 am

You're very smart, AsteroidNap.



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19 Aug 2011, 1:09 pm

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I can be really cynical toward people at times, but thanks to the internet, I have learned that not everyone one is a complete moron. Take this site for example, I have only been here a short time, but in that time I have came across some really nice, caring, intelligent and interesting women. (purchase and hyperlexian come to mind here just to name two.)

i'm sorry i missed this awesome shout-out. thank you for that! there are tons of wonderful women on here, some of whom have saintly patience and good looks to boot!

i should point out that i am not an angel... if i dislike a person i try to ignore them but sometimes i can be a massive b***h. in my world people get sorted according to my black & white thinking and it can be very hard for me to see anything good about some individuals at all. i can be downright mean in what i think and say - just not in public most of the time. i think on WP i come across as a hell of a lot nicer than i am IRL.


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19 Aug 2011, 1:37 pm

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You're very smart, AsteroidNap.


well thanks...I try. I'm also very poor at taking compliments...so I'll leave it at that.



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19 Aug 2011, 3:07 pm

I think I'm just going slip back into my phase of smoking till all is numb and hazey...screw people, screw dating, I'm going to get high...and paint :D