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22 Aug 2011, 11:02 pm

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Pardon me, but I guess I don't see the purpose of these generalized threads?


it is a scientific discovery? If only 15% of people on a drug experience explosive diarrhea do you think they shouldn't put it on the label because it doesn't apply to everybody? wtf is with you people, i just point out two research papers that have done significant scientific trials on something and you all go... "hmmm naaaaah i don't think so."


Because many here in this community, myself included, dislike attributing generalized types categorically to one group or another. I'm relatively new here myself, and already I'm sort of dismayed at the sweeping generalizations that happen here. "All men suxxors, all women are biotches", gets really old, fast.

Also, the sweeping generalizations most cite, or employ, are typically gleaned from an NT sample, not an AS sample. That in and of itself makes the conclusions dubious.



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22 Aug 2011, 11:07 pm

Well, I guess that clinches it then. If there are exceptions to any generality then generalities are utterly useless. :roll:


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22 Aug 2011, 11:26 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Well, I guess that clinches it then. If there are exceptions to any generality then generalities are utterly useless. :roll:


Nice hyperbole..... :wall:

I really don't care if people want to be stuck in their generalities and stereotypes....I've given that up years ago in preference for examining individuals on their own merits, and examining myself for self-improvement. Even a group with well-defined characteristics such as the AS community has a lot of variation between members.



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23 Aug 2011, 12:07 am

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I really don't care if people want to be stuck in their generalities and stereotypes....I've given that up years ago in preference for examining individuals on their own merits, and examining myself for self-improvement. Even a group with well-defined characteristics such as the AS community has a lot of variation between members.


so you don't think it's beneficial to understand core principles that people vary from? I guess I can see the logic in that. It makes your world smaller and easier to manage. if everybody is different that means you are putting 99.99% of people in one box (entitled "unknown") and you can concentrate on understanding from scratch the people you do know.



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23 Aug 2011, 12:59 am

Knifey wrote:
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I really don't care if people want to be stuck in their generalities and stereotypes....I've given that up years ago in preference for examining individuals on their own merits, and examining myself for self-improvement. Even a group with well-defined characteristics such as the AS community has a lot of variation between members.


so you don't think it's beneficial to understand core principles that people vary from? I guess I can see the logic in that. It makes your world smaller and easier to manage. if everybody is different that means you are putting 99.99% of people in one box (entitled "unknown") and you can concentrate on understanding from scratch the people you do know.


Pretty spot on Knifey! I wasted a number of years 'unlearning' all the generalizations that I had come to hold as gospel. If you have a set of generalizations, and act upon them...the chances are the people you meet won't fit them anyway. And generalizations are soooo boring too. I focus on the individual and learn about them (using my Aspie superpowers of perception). And here I'm going to use a generalization, but one of the aspects of AS is that we like to catagorize, right? Ordering things. Once we invest in this, it becomes difficult to break away. This happens in NTs as well, but I think for some with AS it can be particularly strong. That's a danger to our growth.

That's all I'm sayin' ;)



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23 Aug 2011, 3:19 am

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all the generalizations that I had come to hold as gospel


people never fit exactly into generalizations 100%, people who think they do are in serious danger of becoming racist and prejudice :? I never really understood racism etc, it's just something that never made sense to me. maybe i was exposed to a diverse lot of people growing up so i never had the chance to make those kinds of generalizations in ignorance.



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23 Aug 2011, 6:48 am

AsteroidNap wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Well, I guess that clinches it then. If there are exceptions to any generality then generalities are utterly useless. :roll:


Nice hyperbole..... :wall:

You phrased my argument quite well yourself.

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I really don't care if people want to be stuck in their generalities and stereotypes....I've given that up years ago in preference for examining individuals on their own merits, and examining myself for self-improvement. Even a group with well-defined characteristics such as the AS community has a lot of variation between members.

Have you considered the possibility that the way you view 'generalities' is is just more black and white than the way other people use them?


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