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21 Sep 2011, 6:27 am

I haven't met many aspies offline.
Wrong Planet doesn't count in my opinion because it's the online world.



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21 Sep 2011, 11:11 am

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What do other Aspies do that makes you mad?

1. Believe in fantasy concepts as if they were real.

2. Believe that only their point of view matters.

3. Believe that their situations are hopeless.

4. Use the threat of suicide as a means of gaining attention.

5. Believe that being an Aspie excuses them of being responsible for illegal acts.

6. Behave as a grotesque caricature of the worst sort of Entie, while simultaneously bashing Enties for the same behavior.

7. Use crude language as a means of gaining attention.

8. Believe that being an Aspie has a causal connection with issues of gender identity.

9. Believe that all Aspies are the same.

10. Believe that all Enties are the same.


... that'll do for a start ... more later ...


I haven't personally met many other people with Asperger Syndrome so I am not sure if all this is true for the most part or not but to me, none of these apply to me in real life but this can be for many reasons like its just my personality or how I grew up while for other people who have Asperger Syndrome might have a different life compared to mine and were brought up on different views/principles, Asperger Syndrome isn't just one thing, it has multiple things that affect different people and we share only some common things amongst each other like the lack of social skills as a main example.

To me it's not Asperger Syndrome people but its just people in general that do it, just because you have a disability it doesn't mean you can't be classified as a prick or you can never be wrong, that's just human of most people to blame someone or something else for a wrong, people in general don't like being in the wrong and don't want to be blamed for stuff they have done, that's just human of us to do.

I have a feeling I might of not made sense above so correct me if something seems out of place.



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21 Sep 2011, 1:36 pm

auntblabby wrote:
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It's not so much those who are complaining. It's that the complaining isn't constructive. At all. Complaining gets one nowhere. Unless you're complaining to the customer service dept of some business. But people, and society, aren't businesses. Constant complaining will get you nowhere in life. One needs action. Need I remind you: "Be the change you want to see in the world" -- Gandhi.

more often than not, that is akin to the right-wing meme about "jerking oneself up by one's own bootstraps" which is physically improbable at best. complaining is a release valve for intractible and unavoidable pain, and as a fellow [but highly imperfect] human i consider it a golden rule thing to at least try to listen to another human who is in pain. people can cope better with an unavoidable pain if they can kvetch about it at least. i would expect the same treatment if i were ailing, so how could i refuse such a simple and vulnerable human request? if you were in pain would you not feel the urge to cry out? "being the change" i want to see in the world means listening to people complain when nobody else will listen or give an iota, the same way i want to be treated by others. to not do so is cold at best, hypocritically cruel at worst. god bless WP for having forums for people to vent in. kindness means not complaining about people complaining [of which is akin to taking offense at crying infants]. we adults are still infants at times about some things beyond our ken.

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To be complicit in that, without speaking up, is to enable that negative world view to the detriment of the speaker.


what does it cost you if somebody is a complainer? you can always turn a deaf ear or a blind eye to it, this costs you nothing. a "negative world view" exists in some people regardless of your approval of it [or them].


So then in your mind it's the perfectly noble thing to do to listen to someone complain and rant about the 'evils of feminism' or other such b.s., and to turn a blind eye to that? I'm not going to coddle. I'm not going to be another voice in the echo chamber of discontent. Let's complain about Jews next, or...uhm..Blacks...or pick any other identifiable group. I'm not going to validate that negativity. If that makes me cold, then I'm the coldest-hearted bastard you'll ever meet.

But having said that, an individual, complaining in specific terms about a specific problem, is another issue entirely...a guy lamenting a break up with his girlfriend...a girl agonizing over why her bf won't communicate...those are complaints that are actualized in reality, not generalized fantasies. I can offer utmost sympathy and compassion for those individuals...and have.



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21 Sep 2011, 3:09 pm

More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...



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21 Sep 2011, 4:00 pm

I don't have a god complex, I am a god. :twisted:



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21 Sep 2011, 4:01 pm

Fnord wrote:
More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...


mhmm. ^^



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21 Sep 2011, 4:02 pm

List making

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21 Sep 2011, 4:07 pm

Fnord wrote:
More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...


Really? are most people with Asperger Syndrome like this? :S



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21 Sep 2011, 4:14 pm

DeanAdamFry wrote:
Fnord wrote:
More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...


Really? are most people with Asperger Syndrome like this? :S


No, a lot of these complaints could apply to anyone.


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21 Sep 2011, 4:21 pm

Moog wrote:
DeanAdamFry wrote:
Fnord wrote:
More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...


Really? are most people with Asperger Syndrome like this? :S


No, a lot of these complaints could apply to anyone.


Ahh right, I thought he was talking about most Asperger Syndrome people and I was thinking "I'm not like what he is saying we are", just got confused with it all XD



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21 Sep 2011, 4:34 pm

DeanAdamFry wrote:
Moog wrote:
DeanAdamFry wrote:
Fnord wrote:
More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...


Really? are most people with Asperger Syndrome like this? :S


No, a lot of these complaints could apply to anyone.


Ahh right, I thought he was talking about most Asperger Syndrome people and I was thinking "I'm not like what he is saying we are", just got confused with it all XD


Yeah, I took it to mean those Aspies with these traits -- which was my list as well. We all know that different traits manifest differently in each of us. I for one don't have the streaming talk that some have...it goes on in my mind and when I write instead.



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21 Sep 2011, 4:43 pm

Well to be fair, unless someone says something like "complains about loud noises" most of the stuff in here could apply to anyone.

I think that list up there is a reflection of what people have seen on this forum. I have never once seen people on an NT forum whine about not being able to get a GF, for example, whether they can or not.



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21 Sep 2011, 5:03 pm

DeanAdamFry wrote:
Fnord wrote:
More "What Do Other Aspies Do To Make Me Mad?" as promised ...

11. Blame everyone except themselves for being unable to get a date, while disregarding any need to make themselves attractive.

12. Believe that the sexier a person is, the more obligated that person is to date them.

13. Believe that the wealthier a person is, the more that person is obligated to support them.

14. Believe that any statement that disagrees with one of their own is a personal attack or insult.

15. See an insult or personal attack in any unpleasant post.

16. Complain about being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless" without ever trying to change.

17. Reject any advice or suggestions as to how to stop being "Hopeless", "a Loser", "Pathetic", or "Worthless".

18. Constantly asking for advice about their problems without ever taking any of it or considering that they must make the first step to solve them.

19. Blame Enties (neuro-typicals) for everything that's wrong in the world.

20. Blame Enties for all of the problems that they have caused for themselves.

... still more to come ...


Really? are most people with Asperger Syndrome like this? :S


No, the list is pretty much aimed at me.



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21 Sep 2011, 5:11 pm

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Complaining is a release valve for intractible and unavoidable pain, and as a fellow [but highly imperfect] human i consider it a golden rule thing to at least try to listen to another human who is in pain. people can cope better with an unavoidable pain if they can kvetch about it at least. i would expect the same treatment if i were ailing, so how could i refuse such a simple and vulnerable human request? if you were in pain would you not feel the urge to cry out? "being the change" i want to see in the world means listening to people complain when nobody else will listen or give an iota, the same way i want to be treated by others. to not do so is cold at best, hypocritically cruel at worst. god bless WP for having forums for people to vent in. kindness means not complaining about people complaining [of which is akin to taking offense at crying infants].


Extremely well said AB! :)

Someone jumped all over me when I posted in one of my (not infrequent) whiny moods the other day - and even accused me of being a troll! It felt like a serious breach of etiquette.

There's plenty of places you can go to have someone tell you to "f*ck off", but WP shouldn't be one of them - ignore the post if it bothers you so much, don't kick someone when they're down...



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21 Sep 2011, 5:28 pm

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When aspies attribute aspergers as a scapegoat for behaviours that are merely apart of the human condition. Seriously, we're nothing special and WP taught me that by observation a long time ago.


+10

Seriously. >.<



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21 Sep 2011, 7:16 pm

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So then in your mind it's the perfectly noble thing to do to listen to someone complain and rant about the 'evils of feminism' or other such b.s., and to turn a blind eye to that? I'm not going to coddle. I'm not going to be another voice in the echo chamber of discontent. Let's complain about Jews next, or...uhm..Blacks...or pick any other identifiable group. I'm not going to validate that negativity. If that makes me cold, then I'm the coldest-hearted bastard you'll ever meet.


that is just a slippery slope statement. just because a person has existential complaints does not automatically lead into victimization of others.