Guys who don't get a second date.. would you send this?

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08 Dec 2011, 7:46 pm

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If I were her, I would have been straight with him the minute he started harassing me. If I still got an email like that (and have) I would respond again with why I didn't click with him.


If I were her... See, that's tricky for me. I don't know how to turn people down. So I think, at first, I'd go with subtle clues hoping he'd get the message. But after all those messages, I'd reply and make my feelings known: I am not interested in another date.

If he sends an email like this, I think I would send my reply on, stating, in 100% blunt and clear words (as clear and blunt as I can):

- That I don't want to go out with him
- That I don't wish for him to contact me again
- What were the things I disliked about the date
- That he shouldn't take anything in dating as a rule and that, contrary to what he thinks, a woman playing with her hair is not a sure sign she likes you.



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08 Dec 2011, 7:50 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
We don't know that at all. Some people just can't take rejection, and can start stalking their object of affection.


What im saying is whats to say that being ignored wont do the same thing. Heck its more likely to become a stalker to find out if shes still interested than if hes told outright theres zero interest.



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08 Dec 2011, 7:54 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
We don't know that at all. Some people just can't take rejection, and can start stalking their object of affection.


What im saying is whats to say that being ignored wont do the same thing. Heck its more likely to become a stalker to find out if shes still interested than if hes told outright theres zero interest.


Ah, but what sets off a stalker varies widely. "More likely" doesn't honestly enter into the equation.


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08 Dec 2011, 7:56 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
We don't know that at all. Some people just can't take rejection, and can start stalking their object of affection.


What im saying is whats to say that being ignored wont do the same thing. Heck its more likely to become a stalker to find out if shes still interested than if hes told outright theres zero interest.


Ah, but what sets off a stalker varies widely. "More likely" doesn't honestly enter into the equation.


all im saying is theres just as big a chance to get a stalker from ignoring than from rejecting. If so then why not try and steer the guy in another direction kindly.



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08 Dec 2011, 7:56 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
If I were her, I would have been straight with him the minute he started harassing me. If I still got an email like that (and have) I would respond again with why I didn't click with him.


If I were her... See, that's tricky for me. I don't know how to turn people down. So I think, at first, I'd go with subtle clues hoping he'd get the message. But after all those messages, I'd reply and make my feelings known: I am not interested in another date.

If he sends an email like this, I think I would send my reply on, stating, in 100% blunt and clear words (as clear and blunt as I can):

- That I don't want to go out with him
- That I don't wish for him to contact me again
- What were the things I disliked about the date
- That he shouldn't take anything in dating as a rule and that, contrary to what he thinks, a woman playing with her hair is not a sure sign she likes you.


I'm not that great at turning people down, either, but I've done it.


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08 Dec 2011, 7:58 pm

MXH wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
We don't know that at all. Some people just can't take rejection, and can start stalking their object of affection.


What im saying is whats to say that being ignored wont do the same thing. Heck its more likely to become a stalker to find out if shes still interested than if hes told outright theres zero interest.


Ah, but what sets off a stalker varies widely. "More likely" doesn't honestly enter into the equation.


all im saying is theres just as big a chance to get a stalker from ignoring than from rejecting. If so then why not try and steer the guy in another direction kindly.


I get what you're saying, but it just doesn't work that way. Like I said, what can set a stalker off varies and this is one of those variables.


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08 Dec 2011, 8:05 pm

If I were the person receiving this email, I would be in a bit of a quandary about whether to reply or not. Replying, even to reject him and tell him why, could encourage him to continue emailing as then he is receiving attention even though it's negative. Ignoring him could also encourage him to send more emails, though, or even to make personal contact.

I think I would reply very briefly saying only that I did not want to see him again, and that I did not want him to contact me again, by email or any other means. Then I'd change my email address.



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08 Dec 2011, 8:08 pm

The last time I laid the cards on the table when I didn't want to date a guy who was coming onto me I got a barrage of abusive threats for 6 months. :roll: I can certainly see why people try to shake them off without having to do that.



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08 Dec 2011, 8:09 pm

the guy has a hard head. if someone doesn't get back to you after several of your attempts, you should get the message and leave them alone. example: my best friend from school started to be too busy to talk to me whenever i called. i took the hint and stopped calling. i have no idea what i did wrong and that is completely okay and the way the world works.



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08 Dec 2011, 8:09 pm

I would never send such a letter.

The type of letter I might send (and I'm not saying that I actually would), might go something like:

Dear ________,

I had a great time with you the other evening - Thank you. I hope we can do it again.

Best Wishes,

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08 Dec 2011, 8:17 pm

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The last time I laid the cards on the table when I didn't want to date a guy who was coming onto me I got a barrage of abusive threats for 6 months. :roll: I can certainly see why people try to shake them off without having to do that.


whos to say you wouldnt get the same tretment had you ignored him from the start?



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08 Dec 2011, 8:19 pm

I've been there, done that, but not to the same extent as this guy! !

Although I've settled down now with a wife and daughter, dating as an Aspie was really, really rough. Getting the silent rejection after the first date was the norm, and led me to virtually believe that's as far as I'd ever get - it took me a lot of counselling, insight, net research, and advice from friends to get where I am today. Plus a little practice.

You might think what I'm about to say sounds kind of awful, but back in the spring of 2004 I did a little social experiment - I went out on a date with this girl and I thought it went so-so, I can honestly say I didn't "sense" any keen interest from her, so about 3 days later I sent her a note telling her in an honest, thoughtful way that I thought she was a nice person but would prefer not to go further, we didn't really click. She emailed me back basically saying that I must have "some sort of problem" because it's common sense that when you don't click with someone, you don't tell them, you just don't contact them anymore. :roll:



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08 Dec 2011, 8:25 pm

Ah, "common sense". My one big weakness.



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08 Dec 2011, 8:27 pm

Jayo wrote:
I've been there, done that, but not to the same extent as this guy! !

Although I've settled down now with a wife and daughter, dating as an Aspie was really, really rough. Getting the silent rejection after the first date was the norm, and led me to virtually believe that's as far as I'd ever get - it took me a lot of counselling, insight, net research, and advice from friends to get where I am today. Plus a little practice.

You might think what I'm about to say sounds kind of awful, but back in the spring of 2004 I did a little social experiment - I went out on a date with this girl and I thought it went so-so, I can honestly say I didn't "sense" any keen interest from her, so about 3 days later I sent her a note telling her in an honest, thoughtful way that I thought she was a nice person but would prefer not to go further, we didn't really click. She emailed me back basically saying that I must have "some sort of problem" because it's common sense that when you don't click with someone, you don't tell them, you just don't contact them anymore. :roll:


That doesn't sound awful to me. I don't understand her response, though.


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08 Dec 2011, 8:29 pm

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The last time I laid the cards on the table when I didn't want to date a guy who was coming onto me I got a barrage of abusive threats for 6 months. :roll: I can certainly see why people try to shake them off without having to do that.


whos to say you wouldnt get the same tretment had you ignored him from the start?


No-one. But the probability is less. Most people just get the message and don't bother.



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08 Dec 2011, 8:32 pm

Jayo wrote:
I've been there, done that, but not to the same extent as this guy! !

Although I've settled down now with a wife and daughter, dating as an Aspie was really, really rough. Getting the silent rejection after the first date was the norm, and led me to virtually believe that's as far as I'd ever get - it took me a lot of counselling, insight, net research, and advice from friends to get where I am today. Plus a little practice.

You might think what I'm about to say sounds kind of awful, but back in the spring of 2004 I did a little social experiment - I went out on a date with this girl and I thought it went so-so, I can honestly say I didn't "sense" any keen interest from her, so about 3 days later I sent her a note telling her in an honest, thoughtful way that I thought she was a nice person but would prefer not to go further, we didn't really click. She emailed me back basically saying that I must have "some sort of problem" because it's common sense that when you don't click with someone, you don't tell them, you just don't contact them anymore. :roll:


In my opinion the reason for her rude reply is that she didn't like you and was simply annoyed that you contacted her.