Irritated about always being told to "be myself"
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What a lot of tosh!!
When a person uses that saying without a clear explanation of its meaning then the people on the receiving end of the phrase has to define there own meaning to it. Also then a meaning is expressed by the communicator, the receiver's own meaning to the phrase holds more weight then the communicator's meaning of the phrase especially if its a vague expression.
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if they are not interested in you, being interested in them is not only POINTLESS, it is also UNPRODUCTIVE, and a general gross miss-alocation of your time and resources.
when someone says 'be yourself' they often mean just that. if you act like someone other than you, when someone falls for that other someone, eventually they'll learn that you are different than who they thought you were, and they might not be so attracted to your REAL self. if you act as if you normally would, when someone likes you it will be genuine, not fake.
also: do NOT be overzealous. if you constantly call girls, they will be less attracted to you. the 'chase' is of massive importance. if you get a girls number, wait for at least 4 days to call her! DONT TEXT AT ALL! its impersonal, and it goes against the concept of 'the chase'. you have to be a bit distant so they will wonder what you could possibly be doing other than talking to them, or something along those lines.
if you go on a date, kiss at the end. not kissing a girl, in my opinion, gives her the impression that you arent confident, which is a huge no-no with dating. confidence is the key to success. if you seem wishy-washy, or unsure, or lacking in 'drive', it turns girls off very fast.
What a lot of tosh!!
When a person uses that saying without a clear explanation of its meaning then the people on the receiving end of the phrase has to define there own meaning to it. Also then a meaning is expressed by the communicator, the receiver's own meaning to the phrase holds more weight then the communicator's meaning of the phrase especially if its a vague expression.
48 Laws Of Power"Vague meanings are the preferred method for politicians seeking the widest voter approval" and NTs use it a lot.
Cat in a world of dogs. The dogs say "be yourself" but they don't like cats, thus inadvertent preferring cats that can fake being dogs.
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Is that a verbose quotation from your cited reference? What page in The 48 Laws Of Power does that come from?
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"be yourself" is a myth
You have to fit into these narrow boundaries of what a person should be like. If I am myself, I turn people off. It's as easy as that.
It's indirectly saying, "We all know you can't act the way you 'normally' do, but try to act 'natural'."
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"It's how they see things. It's a way of bringing class to an environment, and I say that pejoratively because, obviously, good music is good music however it's created, however it's motivated." - Thomas Newman
"Just be yourself" is complete BS.
What you need is to act like a person that is attractive to the type of girl(s) you like. It might be that you can't act like that always, but there's something like "acquired taste" and it gives you a chance to at least show yourself within a more fair interaction setting. Otherwise it's all about the reptile NT-brain running it's course, which leaves you with no gain.
With time you might also learn to change yourself into the person you are acting like. Just beware of your own true needs, like time without people at all.
Also many people in general ain't aware what they really are doing. You get the answer what they think they do, only say what is thought of socially acceptable, or what you want to hear to "not hurt your feelings" etc.. And consider all expressions as having a potentially different meaning than what it ought to be. If you want to explore what works but people don't usually do, then you got to get closer into the core of the process.
If we're going to compare results, I'm the exact same age as you, and I've been common-law with my current woman for 13 years.
You know, if it was just easy to put a mask on and keep it on so long it stuck, none of us would have any problem in society at all. We'd all be masters of conformity.
And yeah, I can't say I didn't get lucky on the odds. Still though. When I was younger my big blockage was thinking that I had to perform all these little rituals correctly, and worrying I might get them wrong, instead of just ... caring less whether I did or not.
I think women who say it have the impression that the guys who're most socially fluent are the most 'natural' and the guys who have social problems are 'unnatural'. So they say 'be yourself' to shy guys thinking it'll make them more like the ones who're socially fluent. But obviously in a lot of people's cases here it won't. So for our purposes it's effectively a 'Red Herring'.
Obviously there are certain characteristics that have some degree of universal appeal; like being an alpha male, having good socialising skills, resources. And some that are universally unappealing; like being a sociopath.
So it's definitely best just to ignore the 'be yourself' advice and try to aquiant yourself with social norms and protocol so that you're in a position to develop appealing characteristics.
Okay so it seems that this is a catagory in which I can help. In my life I have numerous girlfriends in every sort of catagory from girls who are now models and country stars on the rise to simplistic girl an down to earth caring girls. What girls are attracted to typically depends on their age and current position in life such as what level of schooling they're in or where they are in life after school. In my life I had found that girls in middle school and typically the first couple years of high school are attracted to the "bad boys" but this will change without warning in the last couple years of highschool and the years follow. They will then tend to like a man who seems to truely care about them and who i sweet and honest. One sure fire benifit to have is the ability to make them laugh. Girls absolutely love to laugh just as everyone else does and it has never failed me when trying to get a girl if I can make them do so. I had not admitted to myself that I was an aspie until this current year because I didn't want to believe it (Even though I have been diagnosed with it since I was in like 5th grade) but now that I accepted it I have allowed myself to grow. I tend to change who I am very often not because I don't like who I am but I believe that I can always better myself. Girls also are more interested in guys who want to better themselves. Now I don't know if it's an aspie thing or if it is just who I was but I always used to be a negative person and the law of belief states that if you think negatively and expect things to go bad they will. Since realizing just how much of an affect just how you think has on life I have become the most optimistic person I know and it has worked wonders for my life. I am in college and everything seems to fall into place just because I expect it to do so. THe same goes for getting a girl, if you believe you will get her it will probably end up happening. ANother tip people have hit on so far is that girls like to be complimented. Don't say something generic like you're pretty much be more descriptive and compliment on more that just their looks. When going about it with their looks the best compliments seem to be about their eyes, hair, and smile. Now remember you don't neccecarily have to say that they have beautiful eyes or an amazing smile you can tell them things like "I love your eyes, it gets hard not to get lost in them". Another good area to compliment on is their laugh, if you are a humurous person you will not be with a girl who has a laugh you don't like so it comes without saying that when you tell them you love their laugh or something like "I am in love with your laugh, everytime I hear it I just find myself waiting for something funny to pop into my mind so I can hear it again". Also another thing I've learned we, as aspies, have to pay more mind to is what we say without thinking. Before you randomly blurt something out give yourself a few seconds to think about it. If it seems like it could be something you shouldn't say it very well probably is. Uhm I have to go because I have a lot of work to do, I have college tonight. But if anyone needs some more advice or has questions Pm me and I'll get back to you. I know how much harder it is going about life as an aspie and I would like to help any way that I can. Tyvm for your time. Deuces.
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Okay so in the beginning I meant "have had many girlfriends not have many. I'm not a cheat. So if I can keep from rementioning things i've already stated I will continue. Also if I make mistakes whil writing please forgive them, I'm doing this on my kindle and its not as easy as it sounds. I type fast. But anyways the statement of "be yourself" may not always be the right idea to go by. A better statement would be to "be real". Being yourself can contain many of our unplesant features while being rel is more of having fun, being happy, showing that we are interested in them as a person not as a sex toy, and overall show your strong sides and features. I am typically really good at understanding complex tasks and finding ways to improve them. We all have our strong features we just have to know how to use them. Uhm its shower time for me, sorry. Ill continue later. Deuces people.
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You have to fit into these narrow boundaries of what a person should be like. If I am myself, I turn people off. It's as easy as that.
This, essentially. "Be yourself" is something I automatically group in one category with remarks like "you're cute, but you're not really my type", "it's not that bad", and "you'll find the right person eventually."
That category is 'apologetic moralist nonsense that should be wiped off the face of the earth and never mentioned again'.