Who else is a hopeless romantic?
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I...guess?
I used to make the effort due to that being my nature, but these days I have given up on a relationship that it wouldn't be needed.
I also hate it when people bring it up that I used to write poems to girls and stuff....as it makes me feel taunted and mocked.
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I had to look up "Alpha Male" (still confused):
"In human societies alpha male can mean very different things. Some use the term to mean the guy who seems most at ease with women and can essentially marry or date any woman of his choice. In this sense the alpha male is often good-looking, has a great build, and may have a relatively high socioeconomic status. These distinctions may be less noticed in human groups like high school settings. Generally the alpha male (or a group of alpha males) are the cutest guys, usually muscle-bound, sometimes the “jocks,” while beta males may be less assured around females and may participate in less “male” activities."
If this is anywhere near the truth, then I definitely do *not* prefer alpha males.
As for romance and what I have read about it? It sounds like something good and positive. Not when someone goes overboard on it, but a few romantic gestures would be nice. Like the person that mentioned writing poems, or a song for someone. That, would make me feel special. So yes, I am, pro romance.
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"In human societies alpha male can mean very different things. Some use the term to mean the guy who seems most at ease with women and can essentially marry or date any woman of his choice. In this sense the alpha male is often good-looking, has a great build, and may have a relatively high socioeconomic status. These distinctions may be less noticed in human groups like high school settings. Generally the alpha male (or a group of alpha males) are the cutest guys, usually muscle-bound, sometimes the “jocks,” while beta males may be less assured around females and may participate in less “male” activities."
If this is anywhere near the truth, then I definitely do *not* prefer alpha males.
As for romance and what I have read about it? It sounds like something good and positive. Not when someone goes overboard on it, but a few romantic gestures would be nice. Like the person that mentioned writing poems, or a song for someone. That, would make me feel special. So yes, I am, pro romance.
Basically the Alpha/Beta Male thing gets brought up a lot by Evo-Pscyh proponents as a way to explain things.. most other "Great Apes" like Gorillas and Chimpanzees have this structure.. but humans and Bonobos really don't.. Culturally we are not much like lowland mountain gorillas or chimps.. but we are a LOT like bonobos.. who are really promiscuous and highly cooperative.. Hooray for anthropology class.
I mean.. as far as this stuff goes.. I did lots of romantic little things for my ex.. and she seemed to really appreciate them at the time.. I enjoyed doing them.. I liked to do stuff like go out and lay on a blanket and look at the stars and drink cocoa.. and go for walks to nowhere in particular and all that kinda stuff. We used to write each other little messages with these magnet letter things.. her on my fridge and me on her wipe board. It was fun.
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i have always been hopeless at romance. i do not clearly understand what it is other than saying "lovey dovey" things and stroking the other person, both of which are not native to me. tammy wants to cuddle all the time, but i have a heart of stone (so it is said) and i feel no inclination for what i understand to be "romance".
i have a clinical and abrupt character (also according to others), and to me, the act of pretending to be romantic is a waste of time.
i sometimes feel sorry for tammy in that i can not give her "romantic" gestures, and i have told her that life with me will not satisfy her wishes for romance, but she stays with me anyway. i value very much the fact that she is "stuck" on me despite my shortcomings.
i am the only person who talks to her as a "peer", and as a result, we have many well considered conversations. everyone else in her family speaks to her like she is a simple child, and they do not spend long in conversation with her, and they are not firmly engaged in the conversation when they speak to her.
other males in the outside world ignore what she has to say, and they try only to seduce her into sex.
she does want intimacy from me, and she rejects the advances of other males because she knows they are only after one thing, but what they "want", she wants me to "want", and i am afraid it is not in me.
so her dilemma is whether to spend her life with someone who uses her as a "blow up doll" but ignores what she says, or to spend it with a "robot" like me who values her being but has no biological inclination toward intimacy.
she chooses me and i am very lucky. the girlfriends i had before tammy lost interest in me after they realized that i would never satisfy their urges for romance. they envisaged that they could somehow "fix" me, and that eventually we would "lay in front of a log fire on a warm rug with glasses of wine and snuggle". when they realized i was just a shell, they left.
i have no pheromones and i do not smell of musk and i have no animal rawness about me.
tammy is the only girl i ever loved truly and she knows that, but still she would like me to be romantic.
sometimes i wonder whether i should disappear and not let her know where i went so that she would be forced to look for romance AND mental validation from whatever man is out there that could be completely what she wants.
she does not look at other men with any interest because she has sacrificed her need for romance in order to be "my girl"
and i value that. i make her laugh in a way that she becomes convulsive and breathless but she does not understand jokes or normal humor.
an example that occurred today was that her sister rang her and they had an argument and tammy was enraged and her sister hung up on her.
Tammy: the b***h!! ! the b***h!! ! i'm gonna ring her up and tell her what i think of her!!
me: yes and you will explode to the point that s.w.a.t teams and TV helicopters will surround the house.
tammy: ha ha ha ha.
me: "in breaking news, girl goes beserk in wentworth falls causing widespread destruction, and the military have been called in to assist"
tammy :" f*ckin stop it! hahahahahaha
me: seriously! (pretending to continue to read the news update) "the birds in the area have been stripped of their feathers in the blast, and the roofing tiles on the house of the suspect have been catapulted skywards and 3 police snipers have been killed in the fall out
tammy: hahahaha stop it. i can't breathe (her face was going red)
me: scientists analyzing the situation expect that if the situation is not diffused, a crater 5 km wide and 1/2 a kilometer deep could result if the detonation of her temper is not prevented.
tammy: shut up! shut up! hahahahaha ...choke... cough.
in short, i diffused her anger with my comments and we enjoyed our conversation about her sister.
the way i think when i am not being serious is very humerous to her and she winds up having a good time.
no one else can do that for her.
it is not romantic but it is something else just as intimate on a mental level.
What we're looking for here is "omega male."
N.B:
Many of the males that complain about alphas on this board do get some female attention, just not those that they are attracted to.
Which when you get right down to brass tacks, if they aren't attracted to them then it's not much different than not getting any attention at all.
i have always been hopeless at romance. i do not clearly understand what it is other than saying "lovey dovey" things and stroking the other person, both of which are not native to me. tammy wants to cuddle all the time, but i have a heart of stone (so it is said) and i feel no inclination for what i understand to be "romance".
i have a clinical and abrupt character (also according to others), and to me, the act of pretending to be romantic is a waste of time.
i sometimes feel sorry for tammy in that i can not give her "romantic" gestures, and i have told her that life with me will not satisfy her wishes for romance, but she stays with me anyway. i value very much the fact that she is "stuck" on me despite my shortcomings.
i am the only person who talks to her as a "peer", and as a result, we have many well considered conversations. everyone else in her family speaks to her like she is a simple child, and they do not spend long in conversation with her, and they are not firmly engaged in the conversation when they speak to her.
other males in the outside world ignore what she has to say, and they try only to seduce her into sex.
she does want intimacy from me, and she rejects the advances of other males because she knows they are only after one thing, but what they "want", she wants me to "want", and i am afraid it is not in me.
so her dilemma is whether to spend her life with someone who uses her as a "blow up doll" but ignores what she says, or to spend it with a "robot" like me who values her being but has no biological inclination toward intimacy.
she chooses me and i am very lucky. the girlfriends i had before tammy lost interest in me after they realized that i would never satisfy their urges for romance. they envisaged that they could somehow "fix" me, and that eventually we would "lay in front of a log fire on a warm rug with glasses of wine and snuggle". when they realized i was just a shell, they left.
i have no pheromones and i do not smell of musk and i have no animal rawness about me.
tammy is the only girl i ever loved truly and she knows that, but still she would like me to be romantic.
sometimes i wonder whether i should disappear and not let her know where i went so that she would be forced to look for romance AND mental validation from whatever man is out there that could be completely what she wants.
she does not look at other men with any interest because she has sacrificed her need for romance in order to be "my girl"
and i value that. i make her laugh in a way that she becomes convulsive and breathless but she does not understand jokes or normal humor.
an example that occurred today was that her sister rang her and they had an argument and tammy was enraged and her sister hung up on her.
Tammy: the b***h!! ! the b***h!! ! i'm gonna ring her up and tell her what i think of her!!
me: yes and you will explode to the point that s.w.a.t teams and TV helicopters will surround the house.
tammy: ha ha ha ha.
me: "in breaking news, girl goes beserk in wentworth falls causing widespread destruction, and the military have been called in to assist"
tammy :" f*ckin stop it! hahahahahaha
me: seriously! (pretending to continue to read the news update) "the birds in the area have been stripped of their feathers in the blast, and the roofing tiles on the house of the suspect have been catapulted skywards and 3 police snipers have been killed in the fall out
tammy: hahahaha stop it. i can't breathe (her face was going red)
me: scientists analyzing the situation expect that if the situation is not diffused, a crater 5 km wide and 1/2 a kilometer deep could result if the detonation of her temper is not prevented.
tammy: shut up! shut up! hahahahaha ...choke... cough.
in short, i diffused her anger with my comments and we enjoyed our conversation about her sister.
the way i think when i am not being serious is very humerous to her and she winds up having a good time.
no one else can do that for her.
it is not romantic but it is something else just as intimate on a mental level.
Although it contains none of the romantic memes that people are familiar with, this is a very romantic post.
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