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09 May 2012, 7:48 pm

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Most people seem to not be in relationships because all they want to do is get laid... Just saying


Not true. Another popular myth. Sure, some people do. But there's many who want a genuine relationship who just can't seem to get one



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10 May 2012, 6:20 am

Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.



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10 May 2012, 6:55 am

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Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


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10 May 2012, 7:01 am

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Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)



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10 May 2012, 8:53 am

Kurgan wrote:
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Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


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10 May 2012, 8:57 am

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Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.



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10 May 2012, 8:58 am

Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


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10 May 2012, 9:01 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.



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10 May 2012, 9:04 am

Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.


You're saying if someone engages in some consensual interaction (friendship/sex) and then complains that their effort in that interaction doesn't entitle them to anything more from the other person - that that behavior is an "ego boost" for women and totally acceptable for men.

The issue is treating people like vending machines that you can put kindness coins into until sex falls out, or sex coins into until a relationship falls out.


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10 May 2012, 9:09 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.


You're saying if someone engages in some consensual interaction (friendship/sex) and then complains that their effort in that interaction doesn't entitle them to anything more from the other person - that that behavior is an "ego boost" for women and totally acceptable for men.

The issue is treating people like vending machines that you can put kindness coins into until sex falls out, or sex coins into until a relationship falls out.


Again: Women like sex as much as men do, she's still getting something. This is how sex was like for everyone until somebody invented monogamy some 5000—6000 years ago. "Friendzoned" guys get nothing whatsoever, but are given false hopes that someday she'll see what a great guy he is and give him a chance.



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10 May 2012, 9:17 am

Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.


You're saying if someone engages in some consensual interaction (friendship/sex) and then complains that their effort in that interaction doesn't entitle them to anything more from the other person - that that behavior is an "ego boost" for women and totally acceptable for men.

The issue is treating people like vending machines that you can put kindness coins into until sex falls out, or sex coins into until a relationship falls out.


Again: Women like sex as much as men do, she's still getting something. This is how sex was like for everyone until somebody invented monogamy some 5000—6000 years ago. "Friendzoned" guys get nothing whatsoever, but are given false hopes that someday she'll see what a great guy he is and give him a chance.


Then you're assertion is that men don't appreciate friendship as much as women do?


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10 May 2012, 9:23 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.


You're saying if someone engages in some consensual interaction (friendship/sex) and then complains that their effort in that interaction doesn't entitle them to anything more from the other person - that that behavior is an "ego boost" for women and totally acceptable for men.

The issue is treating people like vending machines that you can put kindness coins into until sex falls out, or sex coins into until a relationship falls out.


Again: Women like sex as much as men do, she's still getting something. This is how sex was like for everyone until somebody invented monogamy some 5000—6000 years ago. "Friendzoned" guys get nothing whatsoever, but are given false hopes that someday she'll see what a great guy he is and give him a chance.


Then you're assertion is that men don't appreciate friendship as much as women do?


No, men don't like it when someone pretends to be their friend just to have somewhere to dump their problems. You wouldn't like it if somebody you were in love with used you for that purpose either, especially not if women were the ones who had to make the first move. A guy who"uses" a woman isn't pretending to have sex with her.

Men being used as an emotional landfill don't have the self-esteem to ignore the chick or better yet: Tell her to stop pestering them about their problems.



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10 May 2012, 9:33 am

Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.


You're saying if someone engages in some consensual interaction (friendship/sex) and then complains that their effort in that interaction doesn't entitle them to anything more from the other person - that that behavior is an "ego boost" for women and totally acceptable for men.

The issue is treating people like vending machines that you can put kindness coins into until sex falls out, or sex coins into until a relationship falls out.


Again: Women like sex as much as men do, she's still getting something. This is how sex was like for everyone until somebody invented monogamy some 5000—6000 years ago. "Friendzoned" guys get nothing whatsoever, but are given false hopes that someday she'll see what a great guy he is and give him a chance.


Then you're assertion is that men don't appreciate friendship as much as women do?


No, men don't like it when someone pretends to be their friend just to have somewhere to dump their problems. You wouldn't like it if somebody you were in love with used you for that purpose either, especially not if women were the ones who had to make the first move. A guy who"uses" a woman isn't pretending to have sex with her.

Men being used as an emotional landfill don't have the self-esteem to ignore the chick or better yet: Tell her to stop pestering them about their problems.


So you're willing to paint a man who get's manipulated into an (let's say 'emotional support role' instead of friend, because now we're not talking about friendship) as a victim because he lacks self esteem.
But you aren't willing to consider that the same mechanism of "dangling affections" is used to manipulate women with low self esteem into actions (sexual or otherwise) they might not otherwise chose.


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10 May 2012, 9:38 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
PastFixations wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
Today, it's perfectly normal to sleep with someone before you enter a relationship with them; I've never been "friendzoned" (I hate this term) without getting laid first.

I like the sound of this... sleeping with someone before even being friends.


Girls like sex as much as men do and are just as shallow; if a girl whines about how some yo-yo-gangsta-mothaf..ka-wannabe guy or preppy pretty boy doesn't want her (as if he owes her anything for the sex) she's only doing it to get an ego boost. :)


Same thing as any guy who complains about getting friendzoned


No, it's not. A girl who gets "used" for sex isn't being rejected empty handed, she gets what she gives. Girls use boys for sex as well, but the difference is that boys don't use this to harvest sympathy and get an ego boost.


That's a double standard.


What's a double standard? A girl who gets "used" still gets something she likes.


You're saying if someone engages in some consensual interaction (friendship/sex) and then complains that their effort in that interaction doesn't entitle them to anything more from the other person - that that behavior is an "ego boost" for women and totally acceptable for men.

The issue is treating people like vending machines that you can put kindness coins into until sex falls out, or sex coins into until a relationship falls out.


Again: Women like sex as much as men do, she's still getting something. This is how sex was like for everyone until somebody invented monogamy some 5000—6000 years ago. "Friendzoned" guys get nothing whatsoever, but are given false hopes that someday she'll see what a great guy he is and give him a chance.


Then you're assertion is that men don't appreciate friendship as much as women do?


No, men don't like it when someone pretends to be their friend just to have somewhere to dump their problems. You wouldn't like it if somebody you were in love with used you for that purpose either, especially not if women were the ones who had to make the first move. A guy who"uses" a woman isn't pretending to have sex with her.

Men being used as an emotional landfill don't have the self-esteem to ignore the chick or better yet: Tell her to stop pestering them about their problems.


So you're willing to paint a man who get's manipulated into an (let's say 'emotional support role' instead of friend, because now we're not talking about friendship) as a victim because he lacks self esteem.
But you aren't willing to consider that the same mechanism of "dangling affections" is used to manipulate women with low self esteem into actions (sexual or otherwise) they might not otherwise chose.


Correct. A woman who's being "used" for sex is free to choose to give someone else a chance and I don't see why she'd want a relationship with someone if she doesn't like the sex.



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10 May 2012, 9:41 am

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Correct. A woman who's being "used" for sex is free to choose to give someone else a chance and I don't see why she'd want a relationship with someone if she doesn't like the sex.

And a man who is being "used" as an "emotional dumping ground/whatever" if free to chose to spend his time listening to someone else. I don't see why he's want to be in a relationship with someone if he didn't like the conversation.


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Correct. A woman who's being "used" for sex is free to choose to give someone else a chance and I don't see why she'd want a relationship with someone if she doesn't like the sex.

And a man who is being "used" as an "emotional dumping ground/whatever" if free to chose to spend his time listening to someone else. I don't see why he's want to be in a relationship with someone if he didn't like the conversation.


Yes, LISTENING to someone else, but not forming a relationship with someone else. A girl who's constantly b..ching about how all men are the same and how they use her for sex, knows perfectly well how the guy she's leading on with the "I wish more boys were like you" crap feels about her and that he'll be interested in a relationship with her.

He'd probably be interested in a relationship with her because she's nice to people she doesn't use.