ok i agree that men with aspergers have it harder.

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29 Aug 2012, 12:19 am

i don't think Richard is ready for a relationship because of his extremely strong (and perhaps unhealthy) attachment to his mother. i don't feel that he is necessarily a typical example of a male with Asperger's Syndrome, so i would be hesitant to extrapolate anything from his experiences.


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29 Aug 2012, 4:39 am

wtfid2 wrote:
are you referring to his voice?


Yes. His voice and the fact that he couldn't stop the impulsion to eat his date's dinner.



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29 Aug 2012, 5:41 am

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29 Aug 2012, 5:57 am

I agree with that this thread says, it's never been easy for me. I've had so many problems........ it just breaks my heart and frustrates me. *sobs*



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29 Aug 2012, 8:33 am

I fail to see what a contest re 'who has it harder' is going to achieve practically speaking. If we all say "Yes, men with Asperger's have an infinitely harder time than women, there, there, poor you!" What exactly does it achieve? Precisely nothing! If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem and nothing is going to change any time soon. You need a strategy and to listen to the advice given by people who have more success. Wallowing in self pity is never a good strategy.



29 Aug 2012, 11:26 am

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Okay, the problem with Richard is NOT aspergers.

The problem with Richard, which I bet is the problem with most aspie guys, is that his mother is driving his life. Because he's dependent on her and she's an overbearing mother, Richard has not developed into a mature man - something that is very problematic for a guy in his 30's. She raised him to be this nice, cleancut BOY who lives a sheltered life. This is the worst position ANY guy can be in, especially when it comes to meeting women and dating. He never learned how to go out and take risks or how to face sheer adversity, and I'm sorry but you can't blame aspergers from preventing him from at least trying to do that.



I know a guy who's in his late 20s, has (albeit fairly mild) aspergers, has a job with a fat paycheck, a car, his own apartment, volunteers on weekends and has joined social interest clubs, and even goes out to bars and nightclubs(by HIMSELF mind you)....And yet he STILL hasn't found a gf and has been actively on the hunt for 5 YEARS! Last time he had a gf was in college. The thing about social endeavors and social risk taking in general is that what matters are the RESULTS and not the effort. For example, many women have told me to my face that they dislike being approached by male strangers in public places whom they're not interested in, and especially when they're by themselves.


If you're a guy with asperger syndrome, the normal ways that men meet women are probably not going to work for you. Most NT women find social ineptitude to be unattractive, and furthermore the more externally obvious your condition is the more repulsive that makes you to women(who tend to be highly self-conscious and concerned with what others think of them as well as the person they're dating. if you stand out in a negative way then this will make her feel embarrassed to be your gf).



Obviously Richard needs to get a job and a place of his own to live, but that by itself isn't enough. I think Rich needs to find a place, or a means, of meeting women who are in a similar situation to his own and struggle with the same issues. If you're really that abnormal, someone else who is abnormal is more likely to be accepting of you that someone who isn't.



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29 Aug 2012, 11:55 am

This is just going to go round and round in circles ... because you'll have the women who haven't had luck in relationships say that aspie men don't have it easier. But their wrong. On average aspie women DO have it easier than men. Nuff said.



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29 Aug 2012, 12:19 pm

my last post was delete so i;'ve cleaned it up
The problem with all men is that they have to make the first move. All men have it harder than all women. Aspie women have it easier than nt men.

As for richard, I think he's a little high on the spectrum.....I def think I am a lot more NT than he is.I am impressed he lives on his own however(which i do not. It definitely does not seem his mom runs his life or that his mom has an unhealthy role in his life. as someone else mentioned. ) I mean he ate his dates lunch lol
I also don't understand why his voice sounds like that of a 10 ur old girl.

Watching thiss series got me a little depressed that a down syndrome kid and a guy with a disfigured face could get a gf and i can;t lol

wth that being said I really enjoyed this series an was really upset that it was only 6 episodes long

btw at the end you can tell that richard was full of crap about not wanting to meet the french girl again..she def rejected his invite back to his apartment.


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29 Aug 2012, 12:22 pm

Disraeli wrote:
This is just going to go round and round in circles ... because you'll have the women who haven't had luck in relationships say that aspie men don't have it easier. But their wrong. On average aspie women DO have it easier than men. Nuff said.
the problem with women who feel that they've had it equally as rough as men is that women use terms such as ''serious'' or ''rape''. WOmen will say things such as ''Guys only want me for sex and I can't find a serious relationship I refuse to have a one night stand bc I might get raped''.
They fail to see that this statement right here shows that they have it easier than men because men struggle to get into both serious relationships, and to get sex. They have a lesser chance of getting raped though 8) thankfully.


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29 Aug 2012, 1:13 pm

Disraeli wrote:
This is just going to go round and round in circles ... because you'll have the women who haven't had luck in relationships say that aspie men don't have it easier. But their wrong. On average aspie women DO have it easier than men. Nuff said.




To be fair, I would say that aspie women don't have NEARLY as much trouble on average finding boyfriends, husbands, or even sexual partners. But many of them do seem to fall for the wrong guys. Many of them get date raped, many of them get trapped in abusive relationships because they become dependent on the guy they're with. Men aren't nearly as picky as women are in terms of who they sleep with and as long as a woman isn't hideously ugly and/or has some kind of major physical disability, they can overlook eccentricities, odd behaviors, and even downright insanity or mental retardation. This is probably why the families of disabled and mentally ill women are extremely protective of said women and try to prevent these women from dating or having sex with anyone.



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29 Aug 2012, 2:41 pm

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MacDragard wrote:
Okay, the problem with Richard is NOT aspergers.

The problem with Richard, which I bet is the problem with most aspie guys, is that his mother is driving his life. Because he's dependent on her and she's an overbearing mother, Richard has not developed into a mature man - something that is very problematic for a guy in his 30's. She raised him to be this nice, cleancut BOY who lives a sheltered life. This is the worst position ANY guy can be in, especially when it comes to meeting women and dating. He never learned how to go out and take risks or how to face sheer adversity, and I'm sorry but you can't blame aspergers from preventing him from at least trying to do that.



I know a guy who's in his late 20s, has (albeit fairly mild) aspergers, has a job with a fat paycheck, a car, his own apartment, volunteers on weekends and has joined social interest clubs, and even goes out to bars and nightclubs(by HIMSELF mind you)....And yet he STILL hasn't found a gf and has been actively on the hunt for 5 YEARS! Last time he had a gf was in college. The thing about social endeavors and social risk taking in general is that what matters are the RESULTS and not the effort. For example, many women have told me to my face that they dislike being approached by male strangers in public places whom they're not interested in, and especially when they're by themselves.


If you're a guy with asperger syndrome, the normal ways that men meet women are probably not going to work for you. Most NT women find social ineptitude to be unattractive, and furthermore the more externally obvious your condition is the more repulsive that makes you to women(who tend to be highly self-conscious and concerned with what others think of them as well as the person they're dating. if you stand out in a negative way then this will make her feel embarrassed to be your gf).



Obviously Richard needs to get a job and a place of his own to live, but that by itself isn't enough. I think Rich needs to find a place, or a means, of meeting women who are in a similar situation to his own and struggle with the same issues. If you're really that abnormal, someone else who is abnormal is more likely to be accepting of you that someone who isn't.
Great post!! I agree, if you are a male with AS,the normal way that men and women meet isn't likely going to be effective



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29 Aug 2012, 2:56 pm

The second chick was quite nice. I'm a sucker for a French accent.

I thought that his mother was nice and supportive. My mother didn't want me to have any female companionship at all.

His mother encourages him to go on dates, while mine would have been having huge, nasty fits.



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29 Aug 2012, 3:03 pm

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The second chick was quite nice. I'm a sucker for a French accent.

I thought that his mother was nice and supportive. My mother didn't want me to have any female companionship at all.

His mother encourages him to go on dates, while mine would have been having huge, nasty fits.


When can you move out?



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29 Aug 2012, 3:06 pm

Wow...after watching that I feel A LOT better about myself^^

Damn, I guess guys really do have it hard...



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29 Aug 2012, 3:16 pm

MacDragard wrote:
Okay, the problem with Richard is NOT aspergers.

The problem with Richard, which I bet is the problem with most aspie guys, is that his mother is driving his life. Because he's dependent on her and she's an overbearing mother, Richard has not developed into a mature man - something that is very problematic for a guy in his 30's. She raised him to be this nice, cleancut BOY who lives a sheltered life. This is the worst position ANY guy can be in, especially when it comes to meeting women and dating. He never learned how to go out and take risks or how to face sheer adversity, and I'm sorry but you can't blame aspergers from preventing him from at least trying to do that.



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29 Aug 2012, 3:21 pm

and he should works on his sense of fashion.