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29 Oct 2012, 2:21 am

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I surely can't be the only one on here. If so, that makes me feel pretty bad. I've never had a girlfriend. I would like one, but it's really pushing it if you're an Aspie virgin over 30 years of age.


You're not the only one. Actually, it's quite common for aspie males to not even date until much later. I'm currently 32 and I only started dating a year ago, though it work out with that person.


at the time, i met a 35 or 36 year old guy who was still a virgin, never dated, if i were him, i would have gone to a hooker, escort ages ago, also, i probably would have killed myself a long time ago too


I'm 30, but still not interested really in the escort option. I'd rather have someone want me for me. But since this person hasn't shown up, in 30 years, I'm really losing hope.
im 23 and know what you mean man..plus i am disgusted enough knowing that any potential gf has had a bf before..no way would f**k a girl who had a dick in her 5 minutes prior.


Why should it matter if she were a virgin? I really don't care about that. Also, that's pretty sexist.
I didnt say she had to be a virgin. i just said it disgusts m that other penis and been there. I am interested in vagina not penis. I want my mouth/dic on vagina not penis. I s t as if a ma cums on a plat. you can wash the plate as many times as you want but i wont at food fro it.

it's only sexist bc im straight and obviously dont want a male virgin.


8O First of all, I think that belongs in the Adult Forum, I wasn't expecting that. I don't understand, I thought we were talking about a girl here, not a guy. What does it matter if she slept with someone else before?



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29 Oct 2012, 2:30 am

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I didnt say she had to be a virgin. i just said it disgusts m that other penis and been there. I am interested in vagina not penis. I want my mouth/dic on vagina not penis. I s t as if a ma cums on a plat. you can wash the plate as many times as you want but i wont at food fro it.

it's only sexist bc im straight and obviously dont want a male virgin.

So, she doesn't need to be a virgin. But, you want her never to have had sex with another man prior to you, thus by definition a virgin.
Correct me if I misunderstand, but your position just doesn't seem logical.
Also, how is a male virgin relevant at all?



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29 Oct 2012, 6:44 am

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8O First of all, I think that belongs in the Adult Forum, I wasn't expecting that. I don't understand, I thought we were talking about a girl here, not a guy. What does it matter if she slept with someone else before?


Well, it might mean she loves him more than she does you. I can see why guys get uncomfortable with it. But I'm 30, so I can't get too picky about women. I need to be more realistic if looking for a relationship.



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29 Oct 2012, 10:03 am

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29 Oct 2012, 12:21 pm

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I didnt say she had to be a virgin. i just said it disgusts m that other penis and been there. I am interested in vagina not penis. I want my mouth/dic on vagina not penis. I s t as if a ma cums on a plat. you can wash the plate as many times as you want but i wont at food fro it.

it's only sexist bc im straight and obviously dont want a male virgin.

So, she doesn't need to be a virgin. But, you want her never to have had sex with another man prior to you, thus by definition a virgin.
Correct me if I misunderstand, but your position just doesn't seem logical.
Also, how is a male virgin relevant at all?
want/need are two diff things.


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29 Oct 2012, 1:16 pm

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I wasn't always 30 though. I wonder why no one came along when I was in college and more social, at 22-23 years of age


If you are like me, it is likely because you are utterly clueless about the attention you are receiving. My GF points out girls flirting with me ALL THE TIME and while I think she overreacts at times, she definitely points out how frequently I am flirted with and I never pick up on it until it is pointed out to me.

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Well, it might mean she loves him more than she does you. I can see why guys get uncomfortable with it. But I'm 30, so I can't get too picky about women. I need to be more realistic if looking for a relationship.


It's a double edged sword. My GF is experienced so it helps me know I know I'm doing it right (and apparently I'm quite skilled :) ) but at the same time she has hangups about certain acts or gets upset for no apparent reason that is a direct result of a previous negative experience. Either way I doubt there are too many virgin girls left who aren't that way due to choice (i.e. religion).



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29 Oct 2012, 2:30 pm

i often feel tempted to go to a hooker or escort, but i need to get a job first and unfortuenately they don't come easy either in this horrible economy, all types of jobs



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29 Oct 2012, 4:55 pm

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I wasn't always 30 though. I wonder why no one came along when I was in college and more social, at 22-23 years of age


If you are like me, it is likely because you are utterly clueless about the attention you are receiving. My GF points out girls flirting with me ALL THE TIME and while I think she overreacts at times, she definitely points out how frequently I am flirted with and I never pick up on it until it is pointed out to me.

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Well, it might mean she loves him more than she does you. I can see why guys get uncomfortable with it. But I'm 30, so I can't get too picky about women. I need to be more realistic if looking for a relationship.


It's a double edged sword. My GF is experienced so it helps me know I know I'm doing it right (and apparently I'm quite skilled :) ) but at the same time she has hangups about certain acts or gets upset for no apparent reason that is a direct result of a previous negative experience. Either way I doubt there are too many virgin girls left who aren't that way due to choice (i.e. religion).


The fact you finally got a GF at age 29 does give me some limited hope. I also can't read signals very well at all. i probably miss the cues when a girl is flirting with me quite a bit. And think someone is flirting when they are just being friendly. It is tricky for aspies, as girls tend to be really subtle with their indicators of interest.

So, yeah, the fact you got one at 29 makes me not want to give up all hope yet. My optimism at finding a good partner is fast dwindling, though.



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29 Oct 2012, 6:43 pm

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I wasn't always 30 though. I wonder why no one came along when I was in college and more social, at 22-23 years of age


If you are like me, it is likely because you are utterly clueless about the attention you are receiving. My GF points out girls flirting with me ALL THE TIME and while I think she overreacts at times, she definitely points out how frequently I am flirted with and I never pick up on it until it is pointed out to me.

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Well, it might mean she loves him more than she does you. I can see why guys get uncomfortable with it. But I'm 30, so I can't get too picky about women. I need to be more realistic if looking for a relationship.


It's a double edged sword. My GF is experienced so it helps me know I know I'm doing it right (and apparently I'm quite skilled :) ) but at the same time she has hangups about certain acts or gets upset for no apparent reason that is a direct result of a previous negative experience. Either way I doubt there are too many virgin girls left who aren't that way due to choice (i.e. religion).


The fact you finally got a GF at age 29 does give me some limited hope. I also can't read signals very well at all. i probably miss the cues when a girl is flirting with me quite a bit. And think someone is flirting when they are just being friendly. It is tricky for aspies, as girls tend to be really subtle with their indicators of interest.

So, yeah, the fact you got one at 29 makes me not want to give up all hope yet. My optimism at finding a good partner is fast dwindling, though.


it makes me angry everyday of my life on how women have to be so damn subtle!!



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29 Oct 2012, 7:03 pm

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i often feel tempted to go to a hooker or escort, but i need to get a job first and unfortuenately they don't come easy either in this horrible economy, all types of jobs


I would really like to avoid that option. But, who am I kidding? I'm 30 and have no dating, relationship, or sexual experience whatsoever. I have had quite a few unrequited crushes, some severe, which lasted years. It kind of ruined my interest in relationships for a long time.

I'd prefer someone to want me for me, not for money. But at this stage, a professional is likely the only way I'll ever know what a woman feels like :cry:



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29 Oct 2012, 7:05 pm

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it makes me angry everyday of my life on how women have to be so damn subtle!!


Yeah. Their signals are so subtle and hard to make out for an Aspie. I think a girl likes me if she just smiles at me and is really friendly, so I misread signals a lot.

I really have no idea how to read women, at all.



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30 Oct 2012, 5:11 am

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i often feel tempted to go to a hooker or escort, but i need to get a job first and unfortuenately they don't come easy either in this horrible economy, all types of jobs


I would really like to avoid that option. But, who am I kidding? I'm 30 and have no dating, relationship, or sexual experience whatsoever. I have had quite a few unrequited crushes, some severe, which lasted years. It kind of ruined my interest in relationships for a long time.

I'd prefer someone to want me for me, not for money. But at this stage, a professional is likely the only way I'll ever know what a woman feels like :cry:


You should avoid that "option". The woman you pay quite likely to be being hurt by doing what's she's having to do in some way (emotionally, socially, physically). It's not really fair to support prostitution - especially if you're somewhere where it's unregulated and illegal - just so you get to have a sexual experience.
And for yourself, I can't imagine that being with a prostitute would come anywhere close to experiencing sex with someone who wants to be with you. Though the experience of sex varies hugely, a prostitute is going to be very different in significant and obvious ways - probably not good ones. You'd get the idea of what a woman's like physically only, and while you may really want that, it just isn't worth the cost (and I don't mean the money you'd be paying). Crucially, one of the reasons a lot of people here seem to want to lose their virginity is because they feel it would prove they are somehow more worthy because someone wanted sex with them, and that's going to be one thing missing from going to a prostitute.

Are you able to make friends with women? Perhaps you could start "experiencing" women by spending time with them on a platonic basis, without the pressure of trying to get them to date you. I know that's far from what you want, but if you're thinking of this kind of substitute for girlfriends, surely spending time being friends and talking with girls would be a preferable alternative?



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30 Oct 2012, 5:46 am

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it's only sexist bc im straight and obviously dont want a male virgin.


Perhaps you should buy a Fleshlight then?



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30 Oct 2012, 2:45 pm

Adam82 wrote:
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i often feel tempted to go to a hooker or escort, but i need to get a job first and unfortuenately they don't come easy either in this horrible economy, all types of jobs


I would really like to avoid that option. But, who am I kidding? I'm 30 and have no dating, relationship, or sexual experience whatsoever. I have had quite a few unrequited crushes, some severe, which lasted years. It kind of ruined my interest in relationships for a long time.

I'd prefer someone to want me for me, not for money. But at this stage, a professional is likely the only way I'll ever know what a woman feels like :cry:



Go for it! :D

Check the advertisements. Decide on what you really like. Read the reviews and find a good affectionate GFE (girlfriend experience) provider. Learn the rules of the game and follow the etiquette.

I've been where you are now. Get rid of your virginity. It is an albatross weighing you down.



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30 Oct 2012, 2:55 pm

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Adam82 wrote:
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i often feel tempted to go to a hooker or escort, but i need to get a job first and unfortuenately they don't come easy either in this horrible economy, all types of jobs


I would really like to avoid that option. But, who am I kidding? I'm 30 and have no dating, relationship, or sexual experience whatsoever. I have had quite a few unrequited crushes, some severe, which lasted years. It kind of ruined my interest in relationships for a long time.

I'd prefer someone to want me for me, not for money. But at this stage, a professional is likely the only way I'll ever know what a woman feels like :cry:


You should avoid that "option". The woman you pay quite likely to be being hurt by doing what's she's having to do in some way (emotionally, socially, physically). It's not really fair to support prostitution - especially if you're somewhere where it's unregulated and illegal - just so you get to have a sexual experience.
And for yourself, I can't imagine that being with a prostitute would come anywhere close to experiencing sex with someone who wants to be with you. Though the experience of sex varies hugely, a prostitute is going to be very different in significant and obvious ways - probably not good ones. You'd get the idea of what a woman's like physically only, and while you may really want that, it just isn't worth the cost (and I don't mean the money you'd be paying). Crucially, one of the reasons a lot of people here seem to want to lose their virginity is because they feel it would prove they are somehow more worthy because someone wanted sex with them, and that's going to be one thing missing from going to a prostitute.

Are you able to make friends with women? Perhaps you could start "experiencing" women by spending time with them on a platonic basis, without the pressure of trying to get them to date you. I know that's far from what you want, but if you're thinking of this kind of substitute for girlfriends, surely spending time being friends and talking with girls would be a preferable alternative?


I've had direct pay and indirect pay sex. The direct pay sex was better.

He should choose the escort option and make platonic friends with women.

I was better able to relate to women on a platonic level after I started seeing escorts simply because the whole sexual tension thing between me and any female friends became non-existent.

Why would I play the stupid romantic games with a girl I'm platonic with when I can readily bang a girl far better looking than the platonic friend? 8)



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30 Oct 2012, 4:19 pm

RICKY5 wrote:
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i often feel tempted to go to a hooker or escort, but i need to get a job first and unfortuenately they don't come easy either in this horrible economy, all types of jobs


I would really like to avoid that option. But, who am I kidding? I'm 30 and have no dating, relationship, or sexual experience whatsoever. I have had quite a few unrequited crushes, some severe, which lasted years. It kind of ruined my interest in relationships for a long time.

I'd prefer someone to want me for me, not for money. But at this stage, a professional is likely the only way I'll ever know what a woman feels like :cry:



Go for it! :D

Check the advertisements. Decide on what you really like. Read the reviews and find a good affectionate GFE (girlfriend experience) provider. Learn the rules of the game and follow the etiquette.

I've been where you are now. Get rid of your virginity. It is an albatross weighing you down.


yeah i feel once i lose my virginity i will be more confident in myself