Do aspie men want advice from aspie women?

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Most women have a long line of guys competing for their affections. A guy must tick all the right boxes and set his expectations lower when it comes to dating. Women are in a position of power all thanks to feminism that has rendered most males powerless. Females can cry sexual harassment or rape if a lesser guy dares try to ask her out. Dating is a lose-lose scenario for most guys who usually get rejected and we are expected to foot the bill for the date(s).

Females: Aspie or non-Aspies are in a position of power and they can choose and decide what guy(s) they date. Most non-aspie guys have to settle for whatever females they can attract. Aspie guys are usually on the bottom of the heap and have little or no chance in regards to attracting females unless they have attractiveness and wealth/social status.

If you are an Aspie guy you are usually better off placing your time and energy in other fields/interests and just accept living a life alone.

No, we don't.



No, they have to be compatible with the person they're trying to date. Thinking of people in terms of being "better or worse" or "more or less valuable" rather than "more or less compatible with oneself" is just going to lead to resentment.



Oh, how awful that women are now considered people and not chattel. Here, have a tissue.
Males are not powerless, they have the power to figure out how to make themselves attractive. The fact that it's no longer as easy as "have a steady job so that she won't starve, and, for the picky b*****s, have all your teeth" does not equate to "males are powerless".



You know, I've heard guys claiming this happens more than I've actually heard of it happening. A LOT more. Usually how it goes is that if someone who a woman isn't interested in asks her out, she just says "Thank you, but no thank you."



The billions of average guys who are in relationships or married don't exist, then? They managed to not get rejected.
And of course, women never get rejected, because guys will stick it in anything female with a pulse that's gone through puberty. We all know that men don't have standards and expectations. Well, they expect blowjobs, but if they can only get them from a 600-pound, 80-year-old homeless woman with no teeth, who hasn't bathed since 1999, and who has AIDs, that's fine.



I agree, this is unfair.



Today I got on the bus and 17 men started fighting over me!
None of them were millionaires with 10-inch penises though, so they just weren't good enough.
I'm just holding out for the right well-endowed billionaire sports star who is a virtuoso kazoo player. Does that make me shallow?



Everyone has to either settle for whomever they can attract, or stay single.



You have to be attractive to attract people? Damn, I never would have guessed that. Next you'll tell me that there has to be light present for a room to be lit up.
I'm sure that wealth has everything to do with things, and the fact that most women don't want to date people who haven't attained the social maturity of an 11-year-old is irrelevant.

Ouch, that must be quite the disillusioning post for some men here..

With regards to the whole debate about 'lesser' and 'better' men/women all I can do is quote Eddie Murphy:
"There ain't no such thing as the 'perfect' girl or the 'perfect' guy. Nobody's perfect. All you can really hope to do is find someone who is just as f**ked up as you are and be happy together."
(not his exact words; too lazy to re-watch the show (raw) and copy-paste the words.. youtube it if you must)

Incidentally, regarding guys/girls doing the asking: all of the 7 girls I've dated during my lifetime were the ones to make the 'first move' on me during courtship.
I can reciprocate or even initiate a little bit of flirtation but I am and probably forever will be an "I'd rather err on the side of cautious than push my luck" kind of guy making it practically impossible to seal the deal without her actually closing her eyes and moving her lips towards mine or making a similar gesture that proves to me without a doubt that she's into me... god I feel pathetic.

I redact my previous post; I think the question here now is whether aspie women should even bother giving advice? It would be a futile effort. Some of you are just too far gone and beyond help.

It's why I seldom give advice in here as I've known this all along.

Aspie guys are used to being rejected all the time and we know that dating and social encounters are usually a pointless waste of time. Aspies are sick of being treated badly by others for no good reason. If you do not bother trying you can not risk failing.

"too far gone and beyond help" sounds like a bad excuse for not being the doormats wanted

I'm curious, MXH.

Would you want everything you write in this forum to be considered "invalid" simply because you are a "male aspie" as most of us female aspies are going to be dating male NT's?

I happen to like quite a few of the contributers here who are male aspies, despite I haven't dated an aspie guy before. It does not make your advice useless, in fact, in some respects they can explain things concisely and eloquently in a way a male NT would never be able to.

I also believe that decent people are decent people - and since I would like to date somebody who is a decent person, I am happy to take advice from decent guys, or girls, be they aspie or NT.

Yet the same common sense is often not extended to us female aspies here. There are a few who recongise a good point when they see it, but it is not the majority.
Why are people being judged by labels rather than the content of their posts?

I can say I prefer advice not based on the sex of the advisor....
but rather I give merit based on historical comments.
Your advice YT, is of a very high grade.
Please continue for the benefit of others.

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Aspie guys do not really want feminists coming back with cold heartless lines/"advice" like: get over it, improve yourself, stop complaining, accept responsibility for your own failures, man up, etc.

Aspie guys do not want feminists on here telling us stuff that we already know. We have been put down most of our lives and last we need is another anonymous cowardly bully to torment us when we are already down.

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that wasnt what i refered to in bluebeans post. I was talking about the subtle jab at most of the males in this forum by saying theyre too broken to even bother with.

I believe everything i wrrite in this forum is considered invalid by many because im a male aspie. At the end of the day only ones problems/issues are apparent. And those of others negligible.

The thing here is we are taking advice from 2 different viewpoints. If i came across saying that i would neglect advice from one side then ill apologize cause that isnt what i was trying to say. I was saying that Id like to be able to hear more advice from the other viewpoint (NT) as ive already heard a lot from aspie yet have only met 1 aspie female. Compared to thousands of female NTs. Id simply like to hear more from the other side.

And even with all of that said, most here looking for advice are actually just looking to vent and rant and voice out frustration. Ive seen very few who actually ask and apply advice.

Sorry - I read BlueBeans post as saying *some* of those posting *in this thread* are too far gone for help.
Perhaps you are right and my interpretation was incorrect.
If that is the case, then I understand why you take issue with it, (although she said some, not most - unless I missed more implications - which is likely if they were present).

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I do not consider yours invalid.

If that is the case - then perhaps you would gain more from visiting a forum composed of mostly NT's, that way you can get their views more easily?
The reality is that they are unlikely to be found here on an aspie site.
I would encourage others who feel the same as you to do the same thing.
In fact I think it would be very useful for them to do that - I have done the same at forums aimed for men with a focus on dating, and another for women with a focus on dating, and found both very enlightening.

I took it as some in this forum. and some being quite a larger ammount than it sounds.

I know, its easy to tell who considers one invalid.

Id say that recommendation to others. Most of my issues with dating stem down to not being able to date, so not bothering even trying to date. But i do agree that for others there are much better sources of information out there. But the ones actually looking for advice probably already know that and have found them (like i have).

there are rarely anyone out there who gets along with aspie males, we are usually far from normal. females have it easy in regards to life especially dating.

As an aspie lady, I do want advice from other aspie ladies.

At first I thought, yeah ok.
Then after a while I thought, no wait, is this a trick question, are you going to reveal the truth about me (men in general) that I do not want to hear, which will mean I must change. My ego will get into the way and then probably try to bulldoze over you in the process of making you go quiet. To hide my hurt feelings/bruised ego. So I thought hell no, rather keep it to yourself. But I'm pretty sure I would change even if I hated to admit to hiding the fact that you were right, but I'll hate you for it regardless.
So my answer is this, do it, but keep in mind that you will get run over and barked at, we might learn from it, but might also never want to admit and reply with a thank you.

I like that response. ^