How can I get women to notice me?

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21 Dec 2012, 3:52 pm

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People shouldn't have needs or desires? What a passionless existence you must crave...


that is not what boxman is talking about. I suggest rereading all of his late posts.



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21 Dec 2012, 3:54 pm

Needs are for survival. In an age where survival is next to no longer being an issue, nobody really needs anything. Desire and passion are completely different.

This article, or the idea that you "need" anything promotes selfishness and instant gratification. Both are saying it's completely ok to use people, and if they don't like they must be doing nothing with their lives. Sounds pretty dickish to me.


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21 Dec 2012, 3:58 pm

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So you're all for objectification of people so long as it's not specifically seeing women as sex objects? Why is it not ok for those like me to expect a relationship or sex, when apparently it's ok to look at others as ways to go about fulfilling your own selfish needs? It's unfortunate that double standards like these still exist.

The thing is, in the world as it is now, there should not be any "needs". That's what people had back when there was not enough to go around, when people were conquering countries or taking different parts of the world for themselves and struggling to survive. If there were not so many greedy people nowadays, I doubt that there would be people going without. What would people do then, without any "needs" having to be met? How would an article like this have any significance?


I think the difference is that the majority of men are willing to bend over backwards to satisfy women's needs, so women don't have to do that for men. If you want to get something from women, then you're going to have to compete with a lot of other guys who want the same thing and are willing to work very hard for it.

And people still act like they live in the neolithic era. That's why everybody is fat and watches spectator sports and buys as much s**t as they possibly can. Talking about how things should be doesn't change how they are.



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21 Dec 2012, 4:29 pm

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... Basically it's all about character. You want to show that you have self-discipline and self-respect. I'd rather have a boyfriend who cares about his health and well-being than one who only cares about wasting money on "fancy" stuff.

Right.

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So how many guys have you dated that have had no money? How many have you dated more than once?

I don't mean that they were on a tight budget, or that they had left their wallets at home or had forgotten their credit cards. I mean penniless, as in 'broke', or 'poor', or even 'homeless'.

Money means nothing to you, right?



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21 Dec 2012, 8:07 pm

Well if you want a girl to notice you, im assuming that you want her to try to approach you? This is rare. However, its not impossible and doing some of these steps will make you more approachable.

Remember, if you want to be approached by a girl make yourself approachable.

1.Make yourself available
If you're with a group of other guys, separate from them. Women are more likely to approach you if you're by yourself.

2.Don't be so subtle or low key.
While it’s certainly true that subtlety is a major aspect of the flirting process, this is one situation where you may want to risk more overt behavior. If the two of you have already locked eyes, this means you’ve already “marked” each other. You are familiar with this step -- it’s when you’re both aware of where the other is, and you will continually seek out signs of possible interest. Usually, this is where the man considers his approach without entertaining the other option. Instead, try something new. Make her approach you by trying a few big smiles, raising a glass in a simple salute, hinting with a wink, or if you want to get brazen, you could simply wave her over. Besides a quick shake of the head in a negative reply, what are you really risking?

3.Try to stand out.
Remember there are tons of other guys and more competition. What separates you from the other guys? Are you really muscular, can you play a guitar? Do you have any talents? Use these talents to your advantage to try to get her to notice you.


4.Stand up straight.
Slouching too much is a stay away from me signal.


5.Don't be shy or nervous. Don't make talking to a girl a big deal in your head. You will get yourself nervous. Instead, relax- no big deal.



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21 Dec 2012, 8:19 pm

Fnord wrote:
Right.

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So how many guys have you dated that have had no money? How many have you dated more than once?

I don't mean that they were on a tight budget, or that they had left their wallets at home or had forgotten their credit cards. I mean penniless, as in 'broke', or 'poor', or even 'homeless'.

Money means nothing to you, right?

Women don't care about money as much as you think. So long as guy has enough to split the dinner bill 50/50 and has or has solid plans to move out of his mother's house, I'm happy. I sure don't want to date a grump who thinks women only care about material wealth, though!



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21 Dec 2012, 8:55 pm

^

I agree with Ruckus.

Most men on here seem to be utterly convinced that they have women sussed out. They make grumpy statements about us, saying: "women want this. Women don't want that," and most of their statements are wrong. For example, an awful lot of the threads on here consist of men with AS telling one another that they have to go to the gym and get big muscles. No matter how many times the AS females respond by saying "hey, hold on. Women feel about muscles the way men feel about boobs. Our tastes vary. We don't all like men with big ones," the men on here will simply not believe us. They think they know women better than we know ourselves. And they also seem to think that all women want men who are rich.

I personally have been in relationships with several men who were poor, Fnord. I was also in a relationship with a man who was literally homeless, and living in a tent.

Nowadays, the majority of people (both men and women) are superficial. You are right to believe that money will attract superficial freeloaders. But not all of us are superficial. If you have never met any genuine people, who love others because of who they are and not because of what they have, then I feel sorry for you. I hope you meet some one day soon. :)



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21 Dec 2012, 8:59 pm

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People shouldn't have needs or desires? What a passionless existence you must crave...

that is not what boxman is talking about. I suggest rereading all of his late posts.

Thanks, but the fact that I disagree with your friend doesn't mean that I misunderstood him.

ETA: Well said, Plodder.



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21 Dec 2012, 9:09 pm

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Needs are for survival. In an age where survival is next to no longer being an issue, nobody really needs anything. Desire and passion are completely different.

This article, or the idea that you "need" anything promotes selfishness and instant gratification. Both are saying it's completely ok to use people, and if they don't like they must be doing nothing with their lives. Sounds pretty dickish to me.

In that case, how about you explain to us which of these needs modern women shouldn't have:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

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21 Dec 2012, 10:52 pm

JBlitzen wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
Needs are for survival. In an age where survival is next to no longer being an issue, nobody really needs anything. Desire and passion are completely different.

This article, or the idea that you "need" anything promotes selfishness and instant gratification. Both are saying it's completely ok to use people, and if they don't like they must be doing nothing with their lives. Sounds pretty dickish to me.

In that case, how about you explain to us which of these needs modern women shouldn't have:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maslow%27s_hierarchy_of_needs

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While I wouldn't classify all of those as needs, those are more about self and thus need to be acquired independently. You should not have to have any of those needs met in order to even be able to speak to another person. If that is all your friendships or relationships are, then I feel sorry for you and your so called friends or loved ones. The moment that they served their purpose or were no longer beneficial to you, you'd kick them out of your life.


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21 Dec 2012, 11:25 pm

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While I wouldn't classify all of those as needs, those are more about self and thus need to be acquired independently. You should not have to have any of those needs met in order to even be able to speak to another person. If that is all your friendships or relationships are, then I feel sorry for you and your so called friends or loved ones. The moment that they served their purpose or were no longer beneficial to you, you'd kick them out of your life.

That's not really an answer. It sounds like you have nothing to offer, and that you're trying to defend that position rather than grow out of it.



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21 Dec 2012, 11:30 pm

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That's not really an answer. It sounds like you have nothing to offer, and that you're trying to defend that position rather than grow out of it.


How is it not an answer? My answer is that relationships with other people should not be contingent on whether they have something to offer or if they are a detriment; that kind of thinking is extremely selfish.


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21 Dec 2012, 11:50 pm

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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: concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself : seeking or concentrating on one's own advantage, pleasure, or well-being without regard for others

If you cultivate a lifestyle in which you have nothing whatsoever to offer to others, what regard for them are you displaying?



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22 Dec 2012, 12:42 am

You don't regard other people based on what they can offer you, or at least I hope you don't. Imagine if people treated pets that way; animals have absolutely nothing to offer and yet people still take them in. Same for children - they are not capable of offering anything. But we don't consider either to be worthless or inferior. To judge people on arbitrary needs rather than for who they are as a person is not right.


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22 Dec 2012, 12:51 am

Totally says it all. All of you guys who whine about being virgins at 20, 30, 40+. Read this and you will know why.


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22 Dec 2012, 12:57 am

JBlitzen wrote:
MXH wrote:
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People shouldn't have needs or desires? What a passionless existence you must crave...

that is not what boxman is talking about. I suggest rereading all of his late posts.

Thanks, but the fact that I disagree with your friend doesn't mean that I misunderstood him.

ETA: Well said, Plodder.

First off, we arent friends.
Secondly, if you really answered that way then i dont think i should give you enough attention to validate such a thought pattern.