A date - this Saturday
So, the big takeaway here for me is if I couldn't swing the Tunisian girl, don't even bother with any other Arab ladies! Of course, the tough thing when you're the foreigner in a situation is parsing what is cultural, what is familial and what is personal.
I can remember a Pakistani girl I knew from work. She was married and I wasn't pursuing her at all. She wore the full burqa (this was in America, BTW). She was just a really good friend -- in fact, the only person I could stand at that damned job. The one night her husband found out I was giving her a ride home from work and the next day he made her quit the job. Mind you, before that, she was taking the bus at 2am! As an American man, I would much rather a female in the family take a ride at 2am from a trusted friend than sit at a bus stop in the middle of nowhere.
I try very hard to not dwell on those things. I just regret losing a good friend over a cultural misunderstanding.
Well, she wore the full burqa, so you should expect things like this to occur. It's not just a piece of clothing.
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So, the big takeaway here for me is if I couldn't swing the Tunisian girl, don't even bother with any other Arab ladies! Of course, the tough thing when you're the foreigner in a situation is parsing what is cultural, what is familial and what is personal.
I can remember a Pakistani girl I knew from work. She was married and I wasn't pursuing her at all. She wore the full burqa (this was in America, BTW). She was just a really good friend -- in fact, the only person I could stand at that damned job. The one night her husband found out I was giving her a ride home from work and the next day he made her quit the job. Mind you, before that, she was taking the bus at 2am! As an American man, I would much rather a female in the family take a ride at 2am from a trusted friend than sit at a bus stop in the middle of nowhere.
I try very hard to not dwell on those things. I just regret losing a good friend over a cultural misunderstanding.
abt the Pakistani girl, she's wearing a burqa, meaning she's fundie or living with a fundie family, just don't have contact with those people. Pakistanis are not Arabs btw, they're simply Muslim Indians originally.
About the Tunisian girl, I think you weren't very discreet about it. Believe me, Tunisian/Morrocain/Algerian girls are often forward especially with foreigners and would swing with them.
But yea, why bothering when you have less complicated choices....
I don't sweat these things too much. A big part of day-to-day functionality for me, especially as it pertains to the opposite sex, is trying to not leave myself emotional dependent on how I hope things work out.
The nice thing with missing something with someone from a different culture is you're not quick to blame yourself.
I suspect burqa (or, rather, niqab-wearing) is more commonplace here than in an actual Muslim country like Lebanon (where you live) or Turkey. It gives me massive creeps, and I avoid anyone who wears it in much the same way that I avoid anyone who wears a balaclava or covers their face. As MCavalera says, it's not just a piece of clothing - it's a massive political statement as well, which is why so many people are hostile to it in the West. And by the way, MCavalera - thanks for clearing up something I already suspected about many people wearing the blasted tents.
But yea, why bothering when you have less complicated choices....
That doesn't sound too bad about the Tunisians. If they get themselves sorted out, I wouldn't mind going for a holiday there. I would need some advice on where to go for the pretty ladies, though. I don't want to the banging a camel! If the beer is good in Tunisia, all the better. I suspect, though, like most foreign countries, they might need a little bit of work doing on that.
A nice dunkel or IPA on the beach - can't say fairer than that.
Also, on Tunisian ladies - are they fat? There just isn't enough real Arab smut in the world.
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Went fine, it was just a 1hour date hence she has a 5 days of Law exams next week (very flattering, no? ;p I was very flattered when I knew that and honestly I would have suggested to postpone it if I knew earlier; I knew she has exam on Mon but not the whole week).
The good news: another date set for next Sat.
The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
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The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
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The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
no no
and it's usually not in my favour to do so.
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The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
no no
and it's usually not for my favour to do so.
Oh Why?
I find you can often bond over shared horror stories about ex's lol
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The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
no no
and it's usually not for my favour to do so.
Oh Why?
I find you can often bond over shared horror stories about ex's lol
Because I barely have ex's? A NT girl of her age (30) surely have more than me; and you did see her picture.
We did chat about past dates/relationships before though but I usually avoid doing so, especially during first dates.
The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
no no
and it's usually not for my favour to do so.
Oh Why?
I find you can often bond over shared horror stories about ex's lol
Because I barely have ex's? A NT girl of her age (30) surely have more than me; and you did see her picture.
We did chat about past dates/relationships before though but I usually avoid doing so, especially during first dates.
Oh so it's more to do with not wanting her to know you haven't had many ex gf's?
I find a lot of conventional dating type conversation very hard like "So what are you up to this weekend then?"
or "Got any holidays planned for this year?" It's like hairdresser small talk and I find there's no way to have a deep,
interesting conversation with this type of topic as I don't do any of the stuff likely to impress the other person at weekends and
don't often take holidays so there's nowhere for it to go.
NT conversation seems like an exchange of information designed to impress the other person
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The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
no no
and it's usually not for my favour to do so.
Oh Why?
I find you can often bond over shared horror stories about ex's lol
Because I barely have ex's? A NT girl of her age (30) surely have more than me; and you did see her picture.
We did chat about past dates/relationships before though but I usually avoid doing so, especially during first dates.
Oh so it's more to do with not wanting her to know you haven't had many ex gf's?
I find a lot of conventional dating type conversation very hard like "So what are you up to this weekend then?"
or "Got any holidays planned for this year?" It's like hairdresser small talk and I find there's no way to have a deep,
interesting conversation with this type of topic as I don't do any of the stuff likely to impress the other person at weekends and
don't often take holidays so there's nowhere for it to go.
NT conversation seems like an exchange of information designed to impress the other person
It's not a smart thing to do because you might sound badmouthing your ex's.
The good news: another date set for next Sat.
What did you talk about?
Studies, workplace and activities.
Don't you talk about previous relationships at all?
I know it's meant to be a 'no no' but I find it's the easiest thing to talk about - the conversation flows better
no no
and it's usually not for my favour to do so.
Oh Why?
I find you can often bond over shared horror stories about ex's lol
Because I barely have ex's? A NT girl of her age (30) surely have more than me; and you did see her picture.
We did chat about past dates/relationships before though but I usually avoid doing so, especially during first dates.
Oh so it's more to do with not wanting her to know you haven't had many ex gf's?
I find a lot of conventional dating type conversation very hard like "So what are you up to this weekend then?"
or "Got any holidays planned for this year?" It's like hairdresser small talk and I find there's no way to have a deep,
interesting conversation with this type of topic as I don't do any of the stuff likely to impress the other person at weekends and
don't often take holidays so there's nowhere for it to go.
NT conversation seems like an exchange of information designed to impress the other person
It's not a smart thing to do because you might sound badmouthing your ex's.
I know, I only tend to do it if the other person does too lol