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11 Jan 2013, 4:11 am

Kezzstar wrote:

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Common Characteristics of Nice Girl™:

- She's always a single girl: Taken and married girls simply don't exhibit Nice Girl™ behaviour regardless if they were one in the past or not.
- She's usually very picky when it comes to dating the opposite sex.
- They usually LOVE "stereotypically attractive male qualities" such as muscularity, wealth, arrogant confidence ...etc while hating much "stereotypically unattractive male qualities" such as shyness, introvertness, skinniness..etc
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that sound like the type of single girls, I talk to alot.

Well I must be a "Nice Girl" then, because I LOVE muscularity, arrogant confidence (which I have myself), although the man of my affections is rather shy.

And yes, I AM picky when it comes to the opposite sex, and hell, even the same sex for that matter. I want to make sure that my chosen partner is right for me. I'm sorry, but if I don't find you attractive (physically or otherwise), I'm not going to date you. I'll quite happily be friends, provided you don't treat me like I'm the scum of the earth for daring to not like you the way you like me.

Are you in the 1 out of 10 minority of women that actually looks good? Just asking cause ugly chicks usually think they deserve a guy like you described too.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:16 am

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Are you in the 1 out of 10 minority of women that actually looks good? Just asking cause ugly chicks usually think they deserve a guy like you described too.

I got picked for a modelling comp, but I really don't think I'm that attractive.

If I don't get the guy I want, I don't get him, feel bad for a week or two and then move on.

And The_Face_of_Boo I don't only socialize with good-looking people, like I said, some of my friends are probably not physically attractive but they are lovely people all the same. Don't tell me that you don't have your likes and dislikes when it comes to looking for a mate. We all do.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:17 am

I said that Krezzar because you saidy you've been known to show disgust toward unattractive physical traits , that's a common shallow reaction.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:20 am

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I said that Krezzar because you saidy you've been known to show disgust toward unattractive physical traits , that's a common shallow reaction.

WHEN said person has started whinging about said unattractive physical trait, and blamed it for anything that goes wrong.

One of my good friends in school was as ugly as sin, but he's now married with a kid - he never once got depressed over how he looked, and instead worked on things that he knew he could improve. Hell, even I wanted to date him at one stage (but never asked him out lol).

The one unattractive train I will show disgust for is whinging! UGH!

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11 Jan 2013, 4:21 am

Kezzstar wrote:

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Kezzstar wrote:

billiscool wrote:

Are you in the 1 out of 10 minority of women that actually looks good? Just asking cause ugly chicks usually think they deserve a guy like you described too.

This thread is related to friendship and socializing, it has nothing to do with preferences in a mate.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:23 am

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I said that Krezzar because you saidy you've been known to show disgust toward unattractive physical traits , that's a common shallow reaction.

You confused the hell out of me with your wording and contradictions.

Whatever you say, good girl.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:26 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Kezzstar wrote:

Venger wrote:

Kezzstar wrote:

billiscool wrote:

Are you in the 1 out of 10 minority of women that actually looks good? Just asking cause ugly chicks usually think they deserve a guy like you described too.

This thread is related to friendship and socializing, it has nothing to do with preferences in a mate.

Whoops, language barrier, I meant "mate" as in "friend". But it can apply to both, everyone has things they like in friends (for example, a lot of my friends are into sports and art, and I don't usually get along with people who shun these things as they are a big part of my life) and they gravitate towards those people. I probably won't get along with someone who loathes sports as much as I do someone who likes them - mainly because we don't have a common frame of reference.

I also don't get along well with introverts. I'm one of those extroverted aspies (trust me, it gets me into trouble a LOT) and being with introverts kinda brings me down. Yeah, it's nice every once in a while, but I prefer going out and hanging out with people instead of being alone. Again, common frame of reference.

Having a rough idea of what you like and don't like in people isn't a bad thing.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:28 am

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I make friends with everybody, especially recently with my involvement with footy, people (good and bad) seem to gravitate towards me. I just get sick of the blokes who think because I like guys who take care of their bodies (and I've dated someone who didn't, believe me it sucked!) and their lives means I'm "shallow". And I have been known to show disgust to the other types, mainly when they've whinged about their characteristic and refuse to do anything about it...

I don't see how I've contradicted what I've said when I was merely repeating myself.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:37 am

I find all of my male friends physically unappealing. Because... they're dudes. They have... balls and stuff. :/

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11 Jan 2013, 4:40 am

Also I just sort of skimmed over the initial post and dove in because I assumed this was going to be a fascinating conversation.

So, there's that.

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11 Jan 2013, 4:59 am

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I don't see how I've contradicted what I've said when I was merely repeating myself.

You first said that you do show disgust toward other types aka the non-good looking (and mainly when they whine but not just because of that).

Then you said you fancied an ugly friend - and said that you only find whining disgusting.

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11 Jan 2013, 5:05 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Kezzstar wrote:

I don't see how I've contradicted what I've said when I was merely repeating myself.

Yes, mainly when they whine. Sometimes though there are some people who will make you inwardly recoil with disgust, but then we all have people like that. It's whether we look past that intital reaction or not.

And of course I'm going to be disgusted by people who won't look after their lives. I take great pride in my life and what I can do within it, and people who don't bother disgust me. Unfortunately I live in an area where it is the norm, and it's disgusting.

It's whining though that gets me.

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11 Jan 2013, 6:00 am

Kinda agree with the whining. I would have had a happier time with my first BF if he didn't loathe himself and his weight so much. I was fine with the way he was. He wasn't. He became fully dependent on me to make him feel better. I couldn't do it of course, too much emotional weight on me and I had trouble communicating my feelings to him at the best of times. Of course it wasn't up to him to improve himself and develop better self-perception. It was me who had to visit psychologists, psychiatrists, take meds and get dragged to couples counselling because I failed to make him feel like a sexy Adonis.

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11 Jan 2013, 6:28 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

Surfman wrote:

nah hes been whining about females for a while now

I am not a whiner.

No, you're a weener.

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11 Jan 2013, 8:29 am

blue_bean wrote:

you know, i've done a lot of thinking about this, as i used to have very low self esteem in my youth. somewhere along the way, i looked at my (former) partner and realised... it is fundamentally disrespectful to his tastes and unkind to him for me to treat myself so badly. over time i learnt to cherish myself more and see myself in a better light, and it really changed how i saw myself. it actually led to better health habits in the long run as well, because i started to feel like i mattered.

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on the subject of the Nice Girl (TM), i can't quite figure out what type this is supposed to be because i've never met any women who call themselves that, and there aren't any common definitions (even in this thread). so the description is still a bit clumsy. perhaps bloggers will get on the case and some internet memes will arise and then the conversation will make more sense to me

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11 Jan 2013, 8:35 am

A doormat girl just isn't looked at by society in the same way as a doormat guy.

And girls who fake niceness aren't usually as bitter about when they don't get things their way relationship-wise as their guy equivalents do.

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