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05 Feb 2013, 4:59 am

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I dated this girl, Tavia, who was rooming with my friend Khari, and after a few months he told me he needed to show me something(while she was out of town) and I was thinking... drugs? Weird porn? What could he want to invade her privacy over, to the point of including me?

I almost didn't go but I'm glad I did. She had been taking my hairbrushes and combs that I carried(I thought I'd become really adept at losing stuff but she was stealing it) and pulling my hair out of it and made a weird lump of hair, kind of like a hair doll of some sort. She had some of my clothes, some of my used tissues etc. The creepiest part was the rows of plastic bags pinned on the wall and dated. Like who the f**k saves a tissue and writes the date and... I mean what the f**k was she going to do with all of it? It was like a weird shrine of some sort.

THAT was too odd.


I saw a guy like that on my strange addiction, except he collected it out of shower drains. which made it all the more weird/gross. don't think he dated it though, he just said he liked to sit there and touch it haha.
It's on youtube if you wanna check it out.



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05 Feb 2013, 5:44 am

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Well, Schneekugel, I guess adults with Avoidant Personality Disorder (for example) are not grown ups and unworthy of love and attraction because they are often considered to be extremely shy.

As for your pedophiliac projections, people tend to see in others what they see in themselves. Go get some psychiatric help.


As you can read yourself in articles, Avoidant Personality Disorder is an illness, based on problems that occured in child evolution. So the person has not grown up, as he/she should. If you think, that non perfect person would be unworthy of love and attraction, i feel very sorry of you. But do not put your personal believes on me.

There is nothing bad about not being perfect. Everyone of us is not perfect. As you can read from previous posts of me, I myself have issues on my own. My partner has. Everyone has. Get yourself rid of the believes, that someone only would be worth of being loved, when being perfect. :)

But a partnership should be about helping a partner to be happier. So to tell you precisely. It is not the behaviour of the girls that is disturbing me. It is yours that is wrong and which I am pointing on. In every post of mine, the thing that I describe as being wrong is your behaviour. Because instead of thinking yourself: "Oh, she is a really nice woman and I love her. Because of that I concentrate on thinking how we both together can make her suffering of her shyness ( which is not the problem, none the less how long you try to manipulate by telling me in an written forum ^^, that I would have written something else ) , because shyness is nothing my partners profits from. It is something my partners, whom I love, suffers from. And as partners we should look forward how to lower our partners suffering instead of finding it sexual attracive. O_o Being afraid is nothing nice. Having fear is nothing from which anyone can profit. It is worsening the life of the person I pretend to love. And shyness comes from being afraid."

So your purpose should be on helping a person, you pretend to love, with the problems that are worsening her life. So the problem is: If you say yourself, that you find something sexual attractive on a woman, that is worsening her life, that you will be helping your to overcome her shyness. Will you help her, getting rid of her shyness, which is worsening her life, which is forcing her to be afraid when not necessary, and be willing to help her to lower something, that is making her sexual attractive for you?

Its nothing bad or insulting about having diabetes. A bad thing would be a partner, that find this sexual attractive, because this is a partner who might not be willing in helping his partner to do whats necessary to lower the suffering of his partner, based on his diabetes.

Its nothing bad or insulting about having an accident and being not able to move your legs for a year. But having a partner that find this helplessness sexual attractive, might be a problem, because this is a partner who might have problems by helping you getting healthy again, doing sport and so on.

A partnership with a person, unwilling to help you with your problems so that you profit from it and have a better life, because of the egoistic motive of being sexual attracted by something, the partner suffers from, this is not a healthy partnership.

Shyness indicates, that the person suffers from it. Else it is not shyness. Being attracted from something, that forces your partner to be suffering, this is the bad thing. That does not make you unworthy of love or anything, but that should let you think about, why it is, that you are attracted to something that lets the person, bearing it suffer from it. It is not about convincing you, being a wrong person. It is about helping you to higher your chances of having a relationship one day, making both you and your partner happy. The problem with an relationship is, that both parts need to be happy. Is one partner of the relationship unhappy, then both are negatively involved. So enhancing something on your partner by being sexually attracted by it, that lets your partner suffer, might feel positive on a short term.

So instead of feeling attractet to shy young girls, so you "can (instinct-wise) hug them and do all sorts of nice things for them", what is so bad about feeling attracted to shy young woman, so you both can grow, learn each other to smaller the problems the shyness causes for your partner, helping her to find strength in her own, lowering the time she is forced to be afraid and having fear, leading to more positive moments in both your life. So you are 29 years old, it is absolutely nothing bad about it, that you have the intuitive deed to have something that you can hug, that looks up to you to help you, that you want instinct-wise to guide through life as a strong, protecting partner. This is pretty normal for the age you are. The thing is, even as a parent: If you love your kids, your goal should be to lower these natural shyness as they grow up, so to help your kids having a happy life, wasting less time with being afraid, to do less and less for them and showing them that they are able to master this conflicts on their own. :)

Having something that lets us suffer is not the bad thing, we all have such things. :) But our goal in a healthy partnership should be to help us as partners in the end, getting happier. :)



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05 Feb 2013, 5:55 am

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As you can read yourself in articles, Avoidant Personality Disorder is an illness, based on problems that occured in child evolution. So the person has not grown up, as he/she should. If you think, that non perfect person would be unworthy of love and attraction, i feel very sorry of you. But do not put your personal believes on me.


Except that you were the one arguing that it wasn't normal for me to be attracted to a shy girl. And by "girl", I mean the opposite of "guy", not "boy". In the English language, a young adult female may be considered a girl, so girl and woman may be interchangeable terms.

In fact, where I originally come from, in my Lebanese culture that is, it's actually a slight insult to refer to a female who's under the age of 40 and is still single as a woman rather than a girl (and by girl here, I mean the opposite of guy, not boy). Surprise, eh?

I do not want a perfect girl ... oops, I mean ... woman anyway. You're putting lots of words in my mouth that I never actually stated whether explicitly or implicitly.



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05 Feb 2013, 6:13 am

Oh, forgot to add, it's not my job to fix a woman. I will offer support when she needs it, but I know enough psychology to know that I can't really force her to get rid of her shyness or whatever other weakness she may have. I leave that to the professionals. For me, my job is to accept her as she is and love her regardless.

I'm sorry you think this is manipulative. It's not. I tried the fixing bit in the past. It never works.



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05 Feb 2013, 8:36 am

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There is a difference between shy and introverted. An introverted person is a silent one, because it comforts her. While a shy person, acts in this way because of being afraid. This afraidness of doing something worng goes ok and is part of being a child. If a child feels himself afraid of a task, he seeks because of this guidance from another person. This is absolutely working as intended. While you grow older you should learn to master this tasks, where you needed help before, to do them on your own. As result, as grown up, you should have grown confident in yourself, self esteem in your possibilities to solve problems on your own and so on...

Being shy means not to be the way you like to be, because of being afraid. A introverted person is not interested in small talk. She is confident in being the way she likes to be, when avoiding small talk. A shy person, wished to be part of the small talk, but doesnt trust her own skill or fears confrontation with others, with whom she doesnt feel as equal in social skills, so to avoid possible conflicts in which she tells herself to be lost, she avoids the whole situations and doesnt give into the deeds she would have. Typical: "I better dont talk. I speak nonsense anyway, and they are not interested in what I think of this topic." This is shy. And as a grown up this is pretty sh***y, because while as a child you can relay on your parents to help you through situations, as a grown up you need another grown up to act as your parents, helping you in the tasks you are afraid of, taking your hand, comforting you that you dont need to be afraid and so on. In an relationship this is bad, because instead of two equal partners, you have a child and a parent, caring to carry the tasks of both of him instead of sharing the tasks they have to face between them two.


I think that being shy means that one is simply not comfortable with some aspects of one's own social abilities and tries to avoid others when those aspects are confronted. They may or may not have a desire to participate in those social situations.

Someone who is introverted is concentrating more on their own thoughts than on others and may or may not be shy as well and has little or no desire to participate in those social situations.



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06 Feb 2013, 1:20 pm

Being a shy person myself I take slight offence at being likened to a child. If I know someone quite well I'm not so shy and I don't feel that my thoughts are childlike, in fact I can be rather opinionated.

Anyway, I seem to be too weird for all men seeing as not one has ever been interested in me. I suspect it is the shyness but also major lack of confidence combined with not being attractive. Oh and I'm rather reclusive!



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07 Feb 2013, 10:06 am

My only requirements really are Christian and abstinent. If they do weird stuff or steal my things to make a shrine, I wouldn't mind. I can make a shrine back at them. Also, AspieOtaku who posted the video of the crazy green girl. I would date her, she looks pretty. I don't know how to copy and paste that post onto mien though.



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09 Feb 2013, 2:27 am

The annoyingly honest reality is that the hotter you are, and the less commitment you want, the more weird you can get away with.

I'm moderately cute and very weird. I can attract guys alright, but I think I'm too weird for a lot of guys to stay with in the long term, like marrying.

Fortunately I found one that doesn't think my weirdness is toooo much, and he DOES wanna marry me! :D



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09 Feb 2013, 2:30 am

women arent too odd as long as they are good looking. look at casey anthony, she was very pretty, and im sure a lot of guys would have slept with her even after the publicity she received. I'd sleep with her if i knew i would not be harmed lol....but she is too ''odd'' for me to date. If looks aren't there, and she is odd physically, like having a 12th leg, then men will steer clear. For dating women can be too odd pretty easily,but not for sex.


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09 Feb 2013, 3:49 am

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My only requirements really are Christian and abstinent. If they do weird stuff or steal my things to make a shrine, I wouldn't mind. I can make a shrine back at them. Also, AspieOtaku who posted the video of the crazy green girl. I would date her, she looks pretty. I don't know how to copy and paste that post onto mien though.
In that case here you go! Image The trick is go to http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/soul%20eater%20gif click on the pic then right click highlight copy image location then left click the copied link to the image location onto the insert image and voila!!


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09 Feb 2013, 9:53 am

Been both turned off, and turned on, by oddness at different times.

Two dark haired beauties come to our aspie support group who both have all kinds nervous tics and quirks and general oddnesses. But I worship both of them from afar-despite- or perhaps in part because of their wierdnesses ( my heart tells me that they each need special-understanding - and TLC-that Im uniquely able to give). But I have trouble persuading attractive but eccentric women of that obvious truth- that they need me to give them that special TLC that only I can give. Alas!



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09 Feb 2013, 5:58 pm

when they start using the urinals


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10 Feb 2013, 1:11 pm

Never! For me its when they're too normal its a problem :)



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10 Feb 2013, 1:23 pm

I get that alot from people that I am so 'vague'.
I still don't know what that means.

But it's probably one of the reasons I do not have a boyfriend yet.



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10 Feb 2013, 2:50 pm

ok, I now going to reply.only including women who never date or very very rarely date (like maybe once every 10 years or more)
one example is the ocd women: who couldn't keep any man dating her. I think she could get a date, but they would never last.
All she did was wash her hands all the time.

But I do think looks have everything to do with alot of things.
You take a very weird acting, crazy attractive woman with asperger and she would probaly would get plenty dates and sex.
But if she too weird, she most likely never going to get married. But knowing how dumb some men are, how some men are so desprate
for any good p----. I am sure she get a husband, who she beat up, throw thing at, and she be running around screaming top of her lungs. But her husband would never notice any of this stuff and taking all the beating and abuse from her.

but if she was weird,crazy and ugly than she wouldn't have any dates or sex, or things like that (on a higher percent)

I've seen weird women that were single but here the catch: they were all ugly.