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16 Feb 2013, 2:43 pm

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Appearance discrimination has nothing to do with feminism and gender.


As more details come in, I see that now...


I still think we need a pic to determine if this is a case of genuine ugliness or a perception issue.


To a point, but culture in this case is a big thing. At least in America the cops would have pretended to care.



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16 Feb 2013, 2:47 pm

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At the gym, I often notice male instructors help the hot girls more than anyone else.

I can write a whole article about discrimination by looks.


That exists everywhere, even here. During my many years in the sales/service industry, I experienced that the guys put up with it in silence (with the occasional gripe session in places like here!) but if a woman is passed by for a prettier one, she'll often start screaming blue murder about discrimination, etc.

Many of us service workers learned the hard way (because no manager would DARE to say so) that you should serve the unattractive women first, just to keep the peace and keep things running smoothly!

Humans are a strange and fickle bunch... ;)



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16 Feb 2013, 3:28 pm

bluerose, i am sorry to read of your experience.

i know you kind of started the thread as a jokey counterpoint to your other thread, but since people seem willing to offer support, do you want me to move the thread to The Haven where people might be a bit nicer about the experience?

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This is why I don't go out much (also live in baltic country). If someone assaults you the police doesn't do anything because it's normal here.

interesting point as well. :cry:


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16 Feb 2013, 3:28 pm

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This is why I don't go out much (also live in baltic country). If someone assaults you the police doesn't do anything because it's normal here.


Maybe you and the bluemoon girl should message each other??? :)



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16 Feb 2013, 7:52 pm

Humans are strange, whats the need to be *** to some1 if they dont look attractive.

and whats to say that poor unattractive woman that got passed over for a bimbo wasnt desperately thirsty or had low blood sugar/pressure and needed her coffee QUICK instead having some douchebag decide that the hottie needs hers first even tho he wont be getting notthing from her and he knows it too ! !!

thats the thing, the guys doing this stuff dont expect SEX from hot women, or to get something in return, they just are grateful a hot woman is in the same room as them.

and theyre mad that im in the same room with them too.

thats what ppl deny or cannot understnad.

countless social studies show that peoples judgement of attractiveness are consistent when it comes to other peoples faces, with the minority too little for their opinion to count. every1 knows hot chciks get stuff for free. but nobody notices the opposite - plainer women get a rougher deal, not the same deal as average women, a rougher deal. its not about facial deformities or whatever, just having features that are bad and makeup cant hide is enough.

there are others on the internet with IDENTICAL life experiences to mine, so at least theres that. im not alone.



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16 Feb 2013, 7:59 pm

u can only look at movies and tv and books - where are the girls that get rejected, friendzoned, cant get dates, always pay for everything and are forced to carry their own stuff and fix their own cars NOT BECAUSE THEY ARE OH SO STRONG AND INDEPENDENT but becuz guys dont give a *** about them. know of any? any memorable spinsters who were otherwise awesome characters?
with the exception of the great golden girls of course.
but im thinking something for the younger adult demo where these issues are more important - women that are on their own, literally, in life.

and i mean real characters, not comic relief sidekicks but real main characters whose lives and troubles are explored.
theres plenty for the woman of average attractiveness.
but none for the woman who has zero dating life, zero interest, has strange guys be rude to her out of the blue etc...
theres none that dont have the obligatory makeover and are realistic and deep, not a "porn for women" type of wishful thinking creation.



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16 Feb 2013, 8:22 pm

bluerose wrote:
Humans are strange, whats the need to be *** to some1 if they dont look attractive.

and whats to say that poor unattractive woman that got passed over for a bimbo wasnt desperately thirsty or had low blood sugar/pressure and needed her coffee QUICK instead having some douchebag decide that the hottie needs hers first even tho he wont be getting notthing from her and he knows it too ! !!

thats the thing, the guys doing this stuff dont expect SEX from hot women, or to get something in return, they just are grateful a hot woman is in the same room as them.

and theyre mad that im in the same room with them too.

thats what ppl deny or cannot understnad.

countless social studies show that peoples judgement of attractiveness are consistent when it comes to other peoples faces, with the minority too little for their opinion to count. every1 knows hot chciks get stuff for free. but nobody notices the opposite - plainer women get a rougher deal, not the same deal as average women, a rougher deal. its not about facial deformities or whatever, just having features that are bad and makeup cant hide is enough.

there are others on the internet with IDENTICAL life experiences to mine, so at least theres that. im not alone.


I remember reading from the social anxiety forum a woman there wrote ''trying being an ugly women with social anxiety, you get treated pretty bad'' . So yes I do agree that unattractive women do have a hard time in society when comes to men and dating.

it would be interesting of the women here on wp, the one's who very bad at dating (never date or very rarely date) what they look like.
same with the women here on wp, who have very little trouble in dating, what they look like.
and if looks really make a difference in dating.



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16 Feb 2013, 8:28 pm

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That's not very good, you should move to the United Kingdom, we are much more sophisticated and mannered than that.


One more person moving to the UK under EU open-borders legislation wouldn't change things massively, I suppose.



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16 Feb 2013, 8:29 pm

Easy there, tiger... Most of us here are in the same boat - we know how it feels to be passed over for the cooler, cuter, richer, and/or more popular crowd. Few of us get free stuff or preferential treatment just because of how handsome, beautiful or popular we are.

I know of a few that do... and the ones I know are NOT nice people... as much as I may desire the better life they appear to have, I would not want to become the self-absorbed, vain, greedy people the ones I know had become. Note, I didn't call them "friends".

If it's any comfort... VERY few people are in that top echelon of "beautiful people"... most people are just like you and me - average people just trying to stay out from underfoot.

billiscool wrote:
it would be interesting of the women here on wp, the one's who very bad at dating (never date or very rarely date) what they look like. same with the women here on wp, who have very little trouble in dating, what they look like.
and if looks really make a difference in dating.


There was one, not long ago, that thought she was so ugly... she was brave enough to post a photo - and had immediate admirers!
This crowd is a special one... we see things differently from the average crowd. Even if your peer group thinks little of you, I'll bet you can quickly find admirers from fellow Aspies who know the sting of rejection!

To all of us - don't lose hope!



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16 Feb 2013, 8:46 pm

I have to agree, now that I look better than I used to, people in public are way nicer to me. And girls smile when I look at them instead of giving me dirty looks.



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17 Feb 2013, 12:29 pm

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It's hard to imagine a country being SO uncivilized that a cabbie can beat you savagely and the police only laugh!

Consider yourself lucky, then...



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17 Feb 2013, 1:49 pm

I am laughing at Bluemax's inability to imagine such things.

Gotham-like cities/countries are real, sadly Batman isn't.



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17 Feb 2013, 2:25 pm

When I stayed Lithuania I was told never to get in a Taxi on my own, and always watch my back I quickly learned why. Me and the father were in a pub in Klipedia((W/e you spell it)) and after he had a few drinks (I was underage at the time sadly)) We went outside to wait for our lift, A Guy came out with a ski mask and knief tried to mug my Dad, He just punched the guy square in the face and the guy fled we went into the bar to try and get them to call the police. The Bartender came out of the back with a broken nose.


So yea, It's easy to imagine this happening. It's a shame beautiful country over there and every single woman I saw was at -least- pretty by Scotland standards, So I think it's a perception issue with BlueMoon.


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17 Feb 2013, 4:03 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I am laughing at Bluemax's inability to imagine such things.

Gotham-like cities/countries are real, sadly Batman isn't.


I'm feeling pretty thankful I'm not in a war-torn place where death lurks around every corner...

Thanks for helping me appreciate the peace I DO have here... in your own special way. ;)



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17 Feb 2013, 4:31 pm

BlueMax wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I am laughing at Bluemax's inability to imagine such things.

Gotham-like cities/countries are real, sadly Batman isn't.


I'm feeling pretty thankful I'm not in a war-torn place where death lurks around every corner...

Thanks for helping me appreciate the peace I DO have here... in your own special way. ;)


and my employer insisting to send me to Afghanistan and/or to Iraq.

So yea, appreciate what you have.