if a guy sleeps with 100 ugly women is he an alpha?

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08 May 2013, 2:25 am

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I found the idea disturbing - f***ing the wife in front of the husband.


I dunno, it can be kinda hot, if maybe a little awkward.


Isn't the man struggling to contain his jealousy/resentment/animosity towards you?

If I had to observe a partner of mine having sex with another woman I'd be very upset - I'd hate it!


Well, it was his idea, so I'd assume not. And if he was, he could have called it off at any moment.

I'm with you on this. I don't share. But if someone wants to share with me, who am I to refuse their generosity?



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08 May 2013, 2:48 am

nessa238 wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
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I found the idea disturbing - f***ing the wife in front of the husband.


I dunno, it can be kinda hot, if maybe a little awkward.


Isn't the man struggling to contain his jealousy/resentment/animosity towards you?

If I had to observe a partner of mine having sex with another woman I'd be very upset - I'd hate it!


No, they don't, actually, it's usually the husband who promotes his wife lol.

I got once a phone number after chat with a foreigner (living here) on a dating site, when I ringed it was a man who answered, I could hear a woman talking foreign language near him too.
He was like "My wife finds you hot, wanna join us sometimes?"

Germans....



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08 May 2013, 3:01 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I found the idea disturbing - f***ing the wife in front of the husband.


I dunno, it can be kinda hot, if maybe a little awkward.


Isn't the man struggling to contain his jealousy/resentment/animosity towards you?

If I had to observe a partner of mine having sex with another woman I'd be very upset - I'd hate it!


No, they don't, actually, it's usually the husband who promotes his wife lol.

I got once a phone number after chat with a foreigner (living here) on a dating site, when I ringed it was a man who answered, I could hear a woman talking foreign language near him too.
He was like "My wife finds you hot, wanna join us sometimes?"

Germans....


It's a mindset I just can't relate to

To be quite honest I feel a lot calmer in life when I take sex out of the equation completely



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08 May 2013, 3:04 am

nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I found the idea disturbing - f***ing the wife in front of the husband.


I dunno, it can be kinda hot, if maybe a little awkward.


Isn't the man struggling to contain his jealousy/resentment/animosity towards you?

If I had to observe a partner of mine having sex with another woman I'd be very upset - I'd hate it!


No, they don't, actually, it's usually the husband who promotes his wife lol.

I got once a phone number after chat with a foreigner (living here) on a dating site, when I ringed it was a man who answered, I could hear a woman talking foreign language near him too.
He was like "My wife finds you hot, wanna join us sometimes?"

Germans....


It's a mindset I just can't relate to

To be quite honest I feel a lot calmer in life when I take sex out of the equation completely


Agreed! Can't believe so many people here want it so badly. I find it annoying, painful, and irritating, energy-sapping, and headache-inducing, and I disassociate during it and can't even finish with about half of partners. One of the reasons I was a "slut" in my past was to try to get over this, but it didn't work.



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08 May 2013, 3:08 am

Tyri0n wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nessa238 wrote:
mds_02 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I found the idea disturbing - f***ing the wife in front of the husband.


I dunno, it can be kinda hot, if maybe a little awkward.


Isn't the man struggling to contain his jealousy/resentment/animosity towards you?

If I had to observe a partner of mine having sex with another woman I'd be very upset - I'd hate it!


No, they don't, actually, it's usually the husband who promotes his wife lol.

I got once a phone number after chat with a foreigner (living here) on a dating site, when I ringed it was a man who answered, I could hear a woman talking foreign language near him too.
He was like "My wife finds you hot, wanna join us sometimes?"

Germans....


It's a mindset I just can't relate to

To be quite honest I feel a lot calmer in life when I take sex out of the equation completely


Agreed! Can't believe so many people here want it so badly. I find it annoying, painful, and irritating, energy-sapping, and headache-inducing, and I disassociate during it and can't even finish with about half of partners. One of the reasons I was a "slut" in my past was to try to get over this, but it didn't work.


The last person I saw has gutted me emotionally and every time I let him communicate with me he does it again

It's taken me a long time to realise that sex is nothing if the person is a heartless twat and that heartless twats never change!



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08 May 2013, 5:04 am

I think multiple women = alpha is an archaic concept. It was for genetic propagation (Ghengis Khan is said to have a huge number of descendants.) But these days I'm not sure that fathering multiple children is that great an idea. I do have a friend who has been with hundreds of women (he likes sex a lot!) I'm not sure I would call him an alpha any more than I would call him a slut.
But . . . the specification of "ugly" women confuses me. Why does this affect the "alphaness" in question.



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08 May 2013, 8:48 am

No, that just makes him easy. And a slut. And probably would earn him an STD or two.



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08 May 2013, 9:36 am

Isn't the term ugly very subjective? It's possible the guy just isn't very shallow and doesn't care whether he is an alpha or not.



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08 May 2013, 9:38 am

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Isn't the term ugly very subjective? It's possible the guy just isn't very shallow.


If it's subjective then the guy would see them beautiful, then he's not less shallow than the next guy.

Also a guy sleeping with 100 wouldn't be deep in his choosing.



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08 May 2013, 10:01 am

Geekonychus wrote:
Isn't the term ugly very subjective? It's possible the guy just isn't very shallow and doesn't care whether he is an alpha or not.


Yes it is highly subjective

There's two levels going on

There's women men are meant to find sexually attractive ie the type of women society dictates are the most attractive ones
and then there's women that particular man happens to find sexually attractive and the two types can vary widely

Men and women get a lot of peer pressure on them to conform and pick a partner who is attractive in a standard way but in my opinion this doesn't always coincide with sexually attractive or to what they are strongly sexually attracted to as people differ a lot



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08 May 2013, 10:07 am

With a hundred ugly women … all at once? :)



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08 May 2013, 10:08 am

A guy that sleeps with that many ugly women is probably a prostitute. So no, not an alpha.



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08 May 2013, 10:18 am

Yep. There's no glory in "bagging the unwanted"... only in scoring 10's.

*gag* Such a revolting concept... "love" means nothing to these people, only personal gain.



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08 May 2013, 10:22 am

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Yep. There's no glory in "bagging the unwanted"... only in scoring 10's.

*gag* Such a revolting concept... "love" means nothing to these people, only personal gain.


I could argue that, if a guy is unattractive, then "bagging" an 8 could be considered brag worthy.



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08 May 2013, 10:27 am

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Yep. There's no glory in "bagging the unwanted"... only in scoring 10's.

*gag* Such a revolting concept... "love" means nothing to these people, only personal gain.


I could argue that, if a guy is unattractive, then "bagging" an 8 could be considered brag worthy.


No argument there... people often feel good about scoring above their own class. (Not that I think that way...)

It would certainly seem that a "5" is more infatuated/attracted to an "8" than a "7" would... and a "9" would be stepping down...


(I find the whole thing galling... but that seems to be the social world we live in. This stuff is really important to them, even if they'll never admit it.)



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08 May 2013, 11:01 am

BlueMax wrote:
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Yep. There's no glory in "bagging the unwanted"... only in scoring 10's.

*gag* Such a revolting concept... "love" means nothing to these people, only personal gain.


I could argue that, if a guy is unattractive, then "bagging" an 8 could be considered brag worthy.


No argument there... people often feel good about scoring above their own class. (Not that I think that way...)

It would certainly seem that a "5" is more infatuated/attracted to an "8" than a "7" would... and a "9" would be stepping down...


(I find the whole thing galling... but that seems to be the social world we live in. This stuff is really important to them, even if they'll never admit it.)


It's primarily genetics - people seeking the healthiest genes for any potential baby, which is meant to be the ultimate aim of a relationship (from a biological imperative viewpoint)

In relationships where no baby is produced it's all irrelevant and meaningless but the rules still hold as that's what our brains are wired to do

I hate it in myself but I've been as guilty as anyone else of likeing the better looking person over the kinder, nicer but less good looking one :cry:

Ironically though, it I'd stayed with the nice kind person instead of having a fling with the better looking one, I might have got married and had children so that's not worked out well (or perhaps it has if it's kept my autistic genes out of the gene pool?)
I was evidently 'meant' to make sure I got pregnant by this other person but I didn't want children.

Do people with defective genes subconsciously self-sabotage as a kind of self-sacrifice on behalf of the species? :?

(Speaking from a point of view that the form of whatever I have isn't a particularly beneficial one from an evolutionary viewpoint, not saying autism per se is a bad thing)