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15 May 2013, 10:53 am

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Why is it only looks that determine which league you're in? Why don't people ever take an honest look at themselves as an overall package?


Because there is no need to. This is a shallow world, governed by shallow people. A so-called "ugly" person could be the most personable guy or girl in the world, and it won't mean jack.


When you date as*holes.

ITT: We pretend everyone that's the same gender is exactly the same person or ugly and frack reality because reality isn't depressing enough.

or at least that's what I'm picking up...


It's not just "as*holes" who do this either.

Have fun in your fantasy world. But you'll learn soon.


Have fun in your depressed alternate universe, you need to either find who you love/can love, or do what you're doing. Personally, I'd rather work hard to get what I like than give up for an unhappy outlook on things.


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15 May 2013, 6:00 pm

appletheclown wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
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Why is it only looks that determine which league you're in? Why don't people ever take an honest look at themselves as an overall package?


Because there is no need to. This is a shallow world, governed by shallow people. A so-called "ugly" person could be the most personable guy or girl in the world, and it won't mean jack.


When you date as*holes.

ITT: We pretend everyone that's the same gender is exactly the same person or ugly and frack reality because reality isn't depressing enough.

or at least that's what I'm picking up...


It's not just "as*holes" who do this either.

Have fun in your fantasy world. But you'll learn soon.


Have fun in your depressed alternate universe, you need to either find who you love/can love, or do what you're doing. Personally, I'd rather work hard to get what I like than give up for an unhappy outlook on things.

Stoicism is a nice skill if you can pull it off though.



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16 May 2013, 10:17 pm

I think you're rather good looking, and no, don't try to force yourself to be attracted to anyone you aren't attracted to for any reason. That does you no favors and I can't think of anything more demeaning than the feeling of being settled for.



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16 May 2013, 10:49 pm

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Why would anyway say he needs to lose weight?? I don't see any fat or tummy there... I think gals would prefer the guy in the pic over a skinny guy slipping down the shower drain - or muscles and veins bulging everywhere.

Well I am about 175lbs and 511" so I suppose I could do with losing some.

And yeah but I am only 25, is it uncommon for hair loss to start by then? I have had the same haircut for 20 years so changing it would be very uncomfortable for me.


actually, ideal weight for guys is 110# for the first five feet, then 6# per inch above five feet, which would make your ideal weight 176#. you don't need to lose. I learned the formula in med school. same for girls except they get only 100# for the first five feet.



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17 May 2013, 12:38 am

cathylynn wrote:
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Why would anyway say he needs to lose weight?? I don't see any fat or tummy there... I think gals would prefer the guy in the pic over a skinny guy slipping down the shower drain - or muscles and veins bulging everywhere.

Well I am about 175lbs and 511" so I suppose I could do with losing some.

And yeah but I am only 25, is it uncommon for hair loss to start by then? I have had the same haircut for 20 years so changing it would be very uncomfortable for me.


actually, ideal weight for guys is 110# for the first five feet, then 6# per inch above five feet, which would make your ideal weight 176#. you don't need to lose. I learned the formula in med school. same for girls except they get only 100# for the first five feet.


That's only if they don't work out much at all.



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17 May 2013, 12:48 am

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You look pretty normal. Get a haircut and gain some muscle and you're easily better looking than the vast majority of men. :)

You shouldn't settle for unattractive girls (someone who's a 4 or worse). I did once and it was not a happy relationship. Some ugly girls are completely oblivious to their own lack of qualities and will gladly hit on men more attractive than them; also, since these girls get hit on less than other girls, they're more likely to take the active role.

Many men with AS are kept in an artificially low league because of poor social skills. The best thing you can do, is to find a workaround for this. Every social flaw (i.e. the smaller your friend circle, the less you like to party etc.) is something you somehow need to compensate for. Sadly, finding girls who aren't into partying, clubbing, binge drinking and all that can be a tough task...


Not if you go to the gym. There are tons of girls that stare at me, some of them smile, actually quite a few. The only thing I need to get past is noticing what the heck the ladies are doing when I am around them. I feel quite clueless sometimes.


I've always interpreted staring as "man that guy is f*****g weird as f**k."



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19 May 2013, 2:14 pm

1000Knives wrote:
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You look pretty normal. Get a haircut and gain some muscle and you're easily better looking than the vast majority of men. :)

You shouldn't settle for unattractive girls (someone who's a 4 or worse). I did once and it was not a happy relationship. Some ugly girls are completely oblivious to their own lack of qualities and will gladly hit on men more attractive than them; also, since these girls get hit on less than other girls, they're more likely to take the active role.

Many men with AS are kept in an artificially low league because of poor social skills. The best thing you can do, is to find a workaround for this. Every social flaw (i.e. the smaller your friend circle, the less you like to party etc.) is something you somehow need to compensate for. Sadly, finding girls who aren't into partying, clubbing, binge drinking and all that can be a tough task...


Not if you go to the gym. There are tons of girls that stare at me, some of them smile, actually quite a few. The only thing I need to get past is noticing what the heck the ladies are doing when I am around them. I feel quite clueless sometimes.


I've always interpreted staring as "man that guy is f***ing weird as f**k."

Eh, yeah me too - or at least I've spilt something on me.



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19 May 2013, 2:50 pm

Depends. Girls typically don't stare unless they are interested, especially if they smile also. To do otherwise would cause safety problems.



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19 May 2013, 6:28 pm

appletheclown wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
The_Funktasm wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
blue_bean wrote:
Why is it only looks that determine which league you're in? Why don't people ever take an honest look at themselves as an overall package?


Because there is no need to. This is a shallow world, governed by shallow people. A so-called "ugly" person could be the most personable guy or girl in the world, and it won't mean jack.


When you date as*holes.

ITT: We pretend everyone that's the same gender is exactly the same person or ugly and frack reality because reality isn't depressing enough.

or at least that's what I'm picking up...


It's not just "as*holes" who do this either.

Have fun in your fantasy world. But you'll learn soon.


Have fun in your depressed alternate universe, you need to either find who you love/can love, or do what you're doing. Personally, I'd rather work hard to get what I like than give up for an unhappy outlook on things.


You can go straight to jail. Do not pass "go," do not collect 200 bucks.

When you've gone through even 1/10th of the stuff I have, then you can talk to me like that. Until then, I'll do what I want.


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29 Jun 2013, 4:13 am

Tyri0n wrote:
Depends. Girls typically don't stare unless they are interested, especially if they smile also. To do otherwise would cause safety problems.

True, although in most cases I think staring is perhaps an exaggeration, more a look of some kind of interest, but I suspect primarily of curiosity. And not necessarily of how I look so much as of my bearing which I think is somewhat stiff and formal.



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29 Jun 2013, 4:45 am

You're average looking :)
A better haircut and a bit of gym would work wonders :)



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29 Jun 2013, 5:22 am

Well I sorted the haircut out anyway. I despise gyms and repetitive exercise - I can't help but feel there is so much better things to be spending my time on in life that that which I don't enjoy, but point taken. Ultimately it comes down to how much do I care enough to make myself appear more attractive, and I have to say probably not a great deal. The issues are really of a different sort of psychological order.

In reflection I am not even sure why I started this thread because really the only reason I even care on my levels is because of other people putting me down - especially members of my family - for not having a girlfriend. And yet the fact that they implicitly criticise me somehow makes me obsessed nonetheless.



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29 Jun 2013, 7:21 am

You look fine. Definitely better then a lot of guys :)

And I understand that about the gym. I find it depressingly boring as well :')



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29 Jun 2013, 1:39 pm

Hah - a little while after I posted that I went out for a stroll.

I don't know if it was sleep deprivation that made me imagine this but I got called out on the holiday beard I have grown (it grows very quickly). Walking along a street in Bloomsbury some random stranger who must have been in her late 30s or 40s - and short enough to be able to sidle up to me without noticing pointed out I'd end up like some old fellow across the street with a white beard if I didn't shave. I was woken from a reverie so merely grunted a monosyllable back. She walked on ahead of me and seemed to smile at me with a sort of half-pert, half-sardonic smile and then said something about how I shouldn't hide my '[some adverb ending with ly] face', to which I intoned 'really' with a degree of incredulity, to which I got the response 'of course'. She looked back for a while and started walking off, I had gone as red as a beet and decided to walk off into a side alley to avoid any more embarrassing conversation. Not quite sure what kind of joke this was but I pretty much failed the rapid-fire repartee game (again). I need time to compose words and alcohol...

The ironies of life. :)