men who won't date fat women

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Haha, you think you "deserve" sex. Is that a joke or...

I like some "thicker" girls, but basically, once the curves turn into a singular curve looking like this ) then no go. Also most middle weight female powerlifters and Olympic lifters are downright perfect as far as being "thick" as they're usually bigger but still at a healthy bodyfat percentage and without a double chin which looks pretty cool. I like big strong looking legs like Chun Li or Mai from the SNK fighting games.

But meh, I think I've only been really "turned down" by one girl ever, thanks to not really actually trying since. Meh.

Also I used to be fat, and I can say I get more positive female attention now, and more smiles and less frowny faces (I don't know what to do after now, though) like I used to get. Right now normal people think I'm "skinny" but still feel a bit unconfident about not having a mega ultra ripped abs and veins popping out yet. But normal people who've not seen me in a while or strangers in the street say I look skinny. So meh.

Oddly back when I was 230-240lbs I had standards only for much skinnier girls, but now that I'm 180 I like "thicker" girls a lot now. Still don't like blobby looking girls, though.

I'm sure there'd be a lot more open if I wanted more bigger girls, but I don't. I'm OK with this and accept it as reality. It makes me mad that in the West 1/3 of all females are "bigger" now, though because we're being fed poison. I don't really look at it as she's being concertedly trying to be fat, you either have to have incredible ectomorph genetics or make a concerted effort to not be fat nowadays in America. I went on vacation this week and ate, while tracking calories, a "normal" American diet and basically wasn't crapping the whole week. I thought my home diet was sloppy and bad, but I'm apparently doing light years better than average in that I can at least crap. No wonder there's so many commercials for laxatives and fiber supplements.

People are attracted to whomever they're attracted to. You can't make anyone like fat women or short men because it's the "right" thing to do. C'est la vie.

I think the worst thing possible is to get involved with someone you aren't genuinely attracted to in the least, it's dishonest. Besides, who wants to feel like they're just being "settled for" because the other party didn't want to seem shallow?

Like whoever you like, the rest is no one's damn business.

I agree with this. I briefly dated a few relatively overweight women in the past, and while I did connect with them emotionally, no matter how hard I tried I just wasn't attracted to them physically at all. They were great people and I honestly wish I could have been more attracted to them, but unfortunately evolution had me wired against it.

Unfortunately all is fair in love and war (well sometimes).

For me I must like the guy and also be attracted to him. I have heard the opposite and some guys will say "I learned the hard way that cute girls are snotty." So some guys will then go for someone for more than just her looks and often be happier in the long run.

Some people who are overweight can try and try to lose weight and it's just not happening, or it's happening so slowly that they give up. It's very easy for me to stay thin but it's very hard for my youngest daughter to lose five pounds. I've watched (and helped when I could) her with her weight struggle for years now and I can tell you flat out that it is much more difficult than I ever thought it would be. I used to think it is easy to lose weight or prevent yourself from getting fat, but it is not. Not at all.

Under normal circumstances you grew up in, it was. But now food is more toxic.

Also, for some women especially, lifting does work wonders. It speeds your metabolism up, whereas chronic cardio in women can mess with their thyroid hormones. Plus since she's bigger she'll generally be stronger and better cut out for the sports of Olympic style lifting or powerlifting anyway. She'll probably have to compete at SHW classes, though. Even if she doesn't lose weight, she'll be healthier.

Ok, sure. I would be the first to eviscerate anyone who criticized you for having one-night stands. But then it makes no sense to criticize women as "slu*ty" for basically doing the same thing. So they put less effort into it (yeah, probably)? But in the end, you all engaged in exactly the same behavior. Furthermore, by throwing around terms like "slu*ty," you are going to make it even harder for guys to get laid.

As for the girl who trolled the dating sites, well, Norway isn't that big of a country, so it's not that bad. Furthermore, she probably called herself a devout Christian who wanted to wait till marriage because she was afraid of being called a slut by people like you.

I'm all for both men and women being able to have one-night stands without shame. Throwing around terms like "slut" and establishing double standards is only going to make life painful for everyone. Girls will feel shame, and getting laid will be harder for guys. Who wants either of those?

I want kids to have fathers and people to be married and stuff.

There are a lot of guys who post here that seem to think they deserve sex and aren't getting it. Of course there are a lot of guys who don't post here who think that too. I don't think anybody "deserves" sex, unless you pay for it explicitly. What gets me is the guys who post here with a "I deserve sex dammit but not with her, or her, or her, or her, but with that one really hot one over there who has her pick of all the guys"

I deserve sex with Vin Deisel. And the Rock. Actually I deserve a threesome with them!! ! If I ever became the richest person in the world, I bet I could make that happen! Then of course I'd be broke but it would be worth it.

Yeah, and that girl who has her pick of guys is always rejecting because "nice guys finish last" not because they have delusions about their compatibility with the girls they want or anything.

Its part of the reason why I think leagues is something people should truly consider. As bad as the idea of classing people from best to worst is, to a degree its a necessary evil in our society. Wish it weren't so though.

And hat said, there's a lot more to leagues than looks. Social status and financial status have very important values in determining a league for oth genders.

And it's not all guys that do this either, but I bet you that somebody or other will chime in and say that we are saying all guys, or all aspie guys etc do that.

Yep, I'm sure someone will, or would have till these two posts. Delusions are harder to break than dreams

The thing is, everybody has their preferences and things that turn them on and off. If someone fits into even a "maybe" category and has some things that turn somebody on (emotionally or physically) then they stand a good chance of getting a date with them. It's just a matter of finding the right person, which can be hard to do.

Also, heavy girls probably have to do more in the way of making sure they are dressed cute and have their hair and makeup and nails done so the guy will give them a second glance so he can get to know the other good things about them than skinny girls do. That's sad, but it's a fact. However, there are quite a few guys out there that like big girls.

Leagues exist. It's a sad fact of life that no one can debunk.