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10 Jul 2013, 10:52 am

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This is going to be a completely prejudiced question (brace yourself), but are overweight people common in Germany? According to statistics, South Africa and the UK are the countries that follow the US in terms of high obesity rates - I haven't checked this, but a cursory glance at our society tends to indicate that this is true. The Germans I have met, those I have stayed with and those I have seen on YouTube all seem to be pretty skinny by our standards (i.e. they are probably normal weight for their height but might look out of place here :D). What is your impression?

As a subjective estimation, at my age, about 20% of people more weigh more than what, to me, seems ideal, and 4% way obviously too much.



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10 Jul 2013, 10:52 am

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I caused 2 users to get married by chance, just saying (abaisse and mark).


I knew you'd be back! :) Good for you, you little matchmaker - and are you married yourself? Do you have a girlfriend? To bring the topic full-circle, is she overweight or not and does she wear make-up or not?
Now I'm genuinely not trying to antagonise you - I'm curious because despite repeatedly declaring a lack of interest in this conversation, I'm now fairly certain you're actually enjoying it. By the way, I'm making a complete assumption about your gender - if you're actually female, are you overweight and do you wear make-up; and how does that factor into your relationships with the opposite sex?



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10 Jul 2013, 10:55 am

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As a subjective estimation, at my age, about 20% of people more weigh more than what, to me, seems ideal, and 4% way obviously too much.


This is very useful information, and thanks again for being honest - it really helps. The reason I ask is because I think being in a society where there are fewer overweight people will naturally tend to assist the weight-loss process. Plus it will help to be around people with good eating habits. It's all looking very positive :)



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10 Jul 2013, 11:29 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I caused 2 users to get married by chance, just saying (abaisse and mark).


I knew you'd be back! :) Good for you, you little matchmaker - and are you married yourself? Do you have a girlfriend? To bring the topic full-circle, is she overweight or not and does she wear make-up or not?
Now I'm genuinely not trying to antagonise you - I'm curious because despite repeatedly declaring a lack of interest in this conversation, I'm now fairly certain you're actually enjoying it. By the way, I'm making a complete assumption about your gender - if you're actually female, are you overweight and do you wear make-up; and how does that factor into your relationships with the opposite sex?


Those personal quesions are irrelevant, I personally don't find extra weight attractive but I know plenty of guys who do, plus it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me unless it's extreme level. I know plenty of overweight (and very obese) girls who are in relationships but yes, they are more likely to be single than slim girls.

You can use mild make-up but I personally don't give a crap abt it.

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, I'm now fairly certain you're actually enjoying it.


Not really, I came back because I've noticed you're too attached to me already, I don't want you to suffer from of my departure. See how nice I am?



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10 Jul 2013, 11:39 am

lol Boo, PsychoSarah is gonna get jealous if you keep flirting with other women.



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10 Jul 2013, 12:22 pm

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Those personal quesions are irrelevant, I personally don't find extra weight attractive but I know plenty of guys who do, plus it wouldn't be a dealbreaker for me unless it's extreme level. I know plenty of overweight (and very obese) girls who are in relationships but yes, they are more likely to be single than slim girls.

You can use mild make-up but I personally don't give a crap abt it.

Not really, I came back because I've noticed you're too attached to me already, I don't want you to suffer from of my departure. See how nice I am?


Interesting. On all counts. Yes - it does seem like the weight thing is going to have to be addressed in due course.

As for being attached to you - you're the one who declared twice that you were writing your last post and still came back. I think it's clear who is attached to who here. Coupled with your aversion to the personal questions, various interesting conclusions can be drawn, particularly since you're more willing to be known as a matchmaker rather than a relationship participant. However, now I'm off to play Call of Duty WaW - I'm playing it through again on Veteran - and then get some work done for the evening.

Thanks so much to everyone who participated in the discussion - I'll probably be back tomorrow.



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10 Jul 2013, 12:25 pm

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lol Boo, PsychoSarah is gonna get jealous if you keep flirting with other women.


Oh, is this supposed to be flirting? I thought flirting was supposed to be complimentary!



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10 Jul 2013, 10:52 pm

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lol Boo, PsychoSarah is gonna get jealous if you keep flirting with other women.


Oh, is this supposed to be flirting? I thought flirting was supposed to be complimentary!


Ah, the naivete of my youth, how I do miss those days...

...except you're older than me, and you haven't figured it out yet? I guess I'm not in as bad a shape as I thought...



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10 Jul 2013, 11:19 pm

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Ah, the naivete of my youth, how I do miss those days...

...except you're older than me, and you haven't figured it out yet? I guess I'm not in as bad a shape as I thought...


Nope, I don't have a clue - not even ashamed to admit it - it doesn't seem to follow any kind of logical rules or decipherable pattern so it is something that I fear will always baffle me. I wish people were just more direct, it would make life so much easier - honestly. Completely not surprising that I have issues with the opposite sex, right? :)



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10 Jul 2013, 11:41 pm

I'll stop being a dick and explain:

When two people like each other, they are often subtly antagonistic toward one another, even beyond any differences they might have.

Also, a major part of flirting is playful teasing and such, so you'd be surprised how "complimentary" stuff isn't quite the norm when it comes to flirting. Complimenting a girl over and over without a strategy in mind is a great way to be labelled a "nice guy", a label renown for it's ability to leave women drier than the Mojave desert.



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11 Jul 2013, 12:25 am

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I'll stop being a dick and explain:

When two people like each other, they are often subtly antagonistic toward one another, even beyond any differences they might have.

Also, a major part of flirting is playful teasing and such, so you'd be surprised how "complimentary" stuff isn't quite the norm when it comes to flirting. Complimenting a girl over and over without a strategy in mind is a great way to be labelled a "nice guy", a label renown for it's ability to leave women drier than the Mojave desert.


Ha ha - says more than enough that I didn't pick up on you being a dick...

OK so when people like each other they are NOT nice to each other? How are you supposed to get closer to the other person if you antagonise them the whole time? That makes no sense to me. Playful teasing - understandable, but surely you have to get know someone a bit before you can tease them otherwise they will just avoid you outright because they will assume you are being serious and actually teasing them.

Well, at least you've enlightened me to this phenomenon - when I like someone I tend to just tell them and that, with the exception of the one case, tends to send men fleeing for the hills so maybe I should just be a b***h all the time and everyone will be all over me...



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11 Jul 2013, 12:53 am

saraip wrote:
Shau wrote:
I'll stop being a dick and explain:

When two people like each other, they are often subtly antagonistic toward one another, even beyond any differences they might have.

Also, a major part of flirting is playful teasing and such, so you'd be surprised how "complimentary" stuff isn't quite the norm when it comes to flirting. Complimenting a girl over and over without a strategy in mind is a great way to be labelled a "nice guy", a label renown for it's ability to leave women drier than the Mojave desert.


Ha ha - says more than enough that I didn't pick up on you being a dick...

OK so when people like each other they are NOT nice to each other? How are you supposed to get closer to the other person if you antagonise them the whole time? That makes no sense to me. Playful teasing - understandable, but surely you have to get know someone a bit before you can tease them otherwise they will just avoid you outright because they will assume you are being serious and actually teasing them.

Well, at least you've enlightened me to this phenomenon - when I like someone I tend to just tell them and that, with the exception of the one case, tends to send men fleeing for the hills so maybe I should just be a b***h all the time and everyone will be all over me...


What Shau says is true... exceedingly so.

Actually often if they can't tell the difference between you teasing them or actually disliking them is where the sweet spot lies - that is both what makes them the most interested, and the most frustrated. But if you cannot do that, then it is a good idea to tease the crap out of them playfully instead.

But basically - the more you tease them, the more liked they feel.
Use it wisely, it is a dangerous weapon. :razz:


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11 Jul 2013, 1:14 am

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What Shau says is true... exceedingly so.

Actually often if they can't tell the difference between you teasing them or actually disliking them is where the sweet spot lies - that is both what makes them the most interested, and the most frustrated. But if you cannot do that, then it is a good idea to tease the crap out of them playfully instead.

But basically - the more you tease them, the more liked they feel.
Use it wisely, it is a dangerous weapon. :razz:


Fascinating... and I am really not being sarcastic, I have honestly just never realised that this is the case at all - so thanks to both you and Shau - this is going to be an awesome experiment to put into practice... :D 8)
The hidden super-weapons of interpersonal relationships!
Pity I don't have more gaming friends, because the kind of smack talk that goes on when gaming is along the lines of what I think would be appropriate in these kind of scenarios... :D



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11 Jul 2013, 1:59 am

I'm not German but Dutch, which is more or less the same, and I've been there somewhat often. There are certainly plenty of overweight people there, as in most of Europe. I think it may be more noticable to you that people in Germany are old. The median age in South Africa is 25, in Germany 44. From wikipedia:

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At least cities with a university attract some young people as well. And Germany seems to me a great place to live. High standard of living, economy much better than most of the other Eurozone countries. You didn't say so, but I get the feeling you might choose to stay there. If you can get citizenship you can live and work in all other EU countries as well. I know a couple of people who are going to university in Belgium and Sweden because it is much cheaper than in the Netherlands. I don't know whether that is for EU citizens or other foreigners as well, but it might be worth looking into.



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11 Jul 2013, 2:28 am

^ what about Cyprus?



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11 Jul 2013, 2:49 am

I haven't heard about them in the news lately, but last I heard they were pretty much f****d economically? That would not be one of the best places in the EU to move to. In many mediterranean countries the youth unemployment is pretty high because no new people are hired. I think the situation would be very difficult for immigrants. Still, people who are citizen of Cyprus can live and work anywhere in the EU. I'm actually surprised there are almost no new immigrants from southern Europe here in the Netherlands. With the horrible unemployment I would expect some to seek work here. There are many people from Poland though, but that was already happening before the Eurozone crisis. I regularly hear people speak Polish, never Spanish or Greek.
I think it is very hard for non-EU citizens to get citizenship in most EU countries though. The exception is for people with skills that are in demand or high paying jobs.