Lapdog Academy.
MXH
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perfect lapdog behaviour noticed at a nightclub a month back. Please note that persistence as discussed already isn't the best description of what I witnessed. If the confident girl in the story wasn't in a relationship, who knows what she would have done.
I kinda saw a funny thing with a girl friend of mine a few weeks ago as she was trying to help instill a sense of confidence into a mutual girl friend of ours. While at a club, they were both getting a drink and the girl said to the other "you want to develop confidence, watch this." They asked a couple random guys to buy them drinks for them and they weren't turned down. A conversation occurred and there was this promise of a dance on the dance floor if they happened to bump into eachother later. Well, the dance never occurred and we left early since the girls couldn't deal with their high heels anymore.
When we were outside we all bumped into one of the guys and he had that "I want you" look in his eyes and on his face. There was a short conversation between the girls and the guy (specifically the more confident of the two girls) and I heard "My friend and I were looking for you on the dance floor and couldn't find you" and that was it. No numbers exchanged and only a "hope to see you around" from the guy after the conversation was over. I could tell he really wanted the confident one. Nothing appeared wrong at all with what I saw other than a lack of interest from the girls.
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You are not desperate enough.
Seriously.
Last month I was at this event with some friends.
Within minutes I was put aside and someone confided me that some woman twice my age was extremely lonely/hoping to meet someone, I laughed at this person´s suggestion because I wasnt looking for a hookup with a stranger twice my age.
The person that approached me cares a lot about me and is a close friend, she didnt mean to make fun of me, she wanted me to be aware of her situation before someone picked her up.
Minutes afterwards she is putting me aside again because a 60something dude kept hitting on her and she felt uncomfortable speaking with him(she has been stuck on a loveless marriage for 30 years and gave up on love ages ago).
Guess which two people wanted to keep in touch after the event and havent been seen since?
The two most desperate people that would have taken just about anything home.
You are not desperate enough.
Maybe I'm missing some context here, but I don't understand how that would be a problem.
Boo talks about how he isnt meeting anyone he is hitting it off with.
Desperate people dont need anyone to hit it off with, they just need someone to pay attention to them, therefore they have an easier time finding someone
So some of us need to be more desperate! and act on it!
But seriously tho, most single guys are constantly desperate and trying to gain attention.
Like for example in the gym, typically 99% of guys transform into coaches for all attractive girls while I never do that. lololol
Or every guy becomes a pro auto mechanical when there's some girl having trouble with her car (yet all they do is standing like idiots and asking stupid questions).
One time a girl kept asking about some exercises I don't know and I was like "sorry, I am not a pro instructor like all guys here" , she laughed hard as she told how true this was.
There are also those guys who flirt every single girl they see.
So maybe I need to become really needy and desperate? I've realized I have none (desperation or neediness).
And how can I be REALLY more needy and desperate?
I want volunteers to practice desperation with.
I was mostly joking with the whole you are not desperate enough boo,
What I meant is that you still have to go around asking just about any women you may find, hoping for a positive reply.
I wasnt being serious.
You are getting some decent results right now so I wouldnt worry too much about your situation
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You are not desperate enough.
Seriously.
Last month I was at this event with some friends.
Within minutes I was put aside and someone confided me that some woman twice my age was extremely lonely/hoping to meet someone, I laughed at this person´s suggestion because I wasnt looking for a hookup with a stranger twice my age.
The person that approached me cares a lot about me and is a close friend, she didnt mean to make fun of me, she wanted me to be aware of her situation before someone picked her up.
Minutes afterwards she is putting me aside again because a 60something dude kept hitting on her and she felt uncomfortable speaking with him(she has been stuck on a loveless marriage for 30 years and gave up on love ages ago).
Guess which two people wanted to keep in touch after the event and havent been seen since?
The two most desperate people that would have taken just about anything home.
You are not desperate enough.
Maybe I'm missing some context here, but I don't understand how that would be a problem.
Boo talks about how he isnt meeting anyone he is hitting it off with.
Desperate people dont need anyone to hit it off with, they just need someone to pay attention to them, therefore they have an easier time finding someone
So some of us need to be more desperate! and act on it!
But seriously tho, most single guys are constantly desperate and trying to gain attention.
Like for example in the gym, typically 99% of guys transform into coaches for all attractive girls while I never do that. lololol
Or every guy becomes a pro auto mechanical when there's some girl having trouble with her car (yet all they do is standing like idiots and asking stupid questions).
One time a girl kept asking about some exercises I don't know and I was like "sorry, I am not a pro instructor like all guys here" , she laughed hard as she told how true this was.
There are also those guys who flirt every single girl they see.
So maybe I need to become really needy and desperate? I've realized I have none (desperation or neediness).
And how can I be REALLY more needy and desperate?
I want volunteers to practice desperation with.
I was mostly joking with the whole you are not desperate enough boo,
What I meant is that you still have to go around asking just about any women you may find, hoping for a positive reply.
I wasnt being serious.
You are getting some decent results right now so I wouldnt worry too much about your situation
But your joke DID have a point, really. I am not joking.
The people talking about dates, I have a feeling they generally don't work. I personally don't know anyone that got into a relationship with someone they dated while not yet know them very well. Almost all people I know that are in a relationship have met eachother at a hobby or sports club. Volleyball, chess club, that sort of thing.
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I wouldn't say you are not desperate enough though: I would say a) you are not interested enough and b) you do not pursue strongly enough
Without interest, pursuing strongly and persistence, most guys don't get very far. The guys who get the most, those are generally the 3 things that they have down pat.
You come across as nonchalant - but once a girl realises it's actually lack of interest, she is probably going to ditch you.
Well, I read your advice to saraip, you're into typical gender-roles (ie. girls must never approach guys, guys must approach persistently), but hey you might be right since most girls think like you.
btw, it's not true that a runs away when girls approach him unless he's too good/alpha for them(way out of league).
Yes, it's unfair for girls to expect guys to do that when girls hold all the cards and have complete freedom to accuse a guy of sexual harassment and being creepy. I just think this kind of makes it irrational for most guys to ever initiate anything. Besides, for women to wait around for guys to pick them is basically asking to end up in an unsafe situation. The ones who are the most pushy at the beginning are the ones most likely to pay no attention if the woman ever tells them she doesn't want to have sex.
Well, I guess it's just as well because I would rather have nothing to do with women like that. I have dated several traditional women for a short time, and it was the most stressful experience of my life. I would much rather be single than have to deal with that.
I think you are right on the money with this one. However, as a female, I have been accused of being slu*ty or manly and things of that nature when using this approach with people I don't already know. Which is good in a way, because I have no intrest in men who would make such judgement calls.
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I think you are right on the money with this one. However, as a female, I have been accused of being slu*ty or manly and things of that nature when using this approach with people I don't already know. Which is good in a way, because I have no intrest in men who would make such judgement calls.
Neither would I. So don't worry about it.