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08 Nov 2013, 2:40 pm

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Above 130 IQ men are probably great catch and huge money-makers.


Actually a lot of people with high IQs find it hard to find a job they are good at. Being good at IQ tests does not necessarily mean you have a set of skills that you can use to earn a decent living.


Yep, BTDT, although I finally managed to find a halfway-decent-paying job that suits my unique skillset. Most of my fiance's career was spent doing software development for NASA, and he made a living at it but wasn't anywhere close to wealthy.

I feel I've only ever been able to communicate at all with other people with high IQs. Maybe that just comes from working in science/engineering fields most of my life.



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08 Nov 2013, 3:26 pm

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I feel I've only ever been able to communicate at all with other people with high IQs. Maybe that just comes from working in science/engineering fields most of my life.


People with extremely high IQs are bound to be excruciatingly boring,no? Or can you have high Emotional Intelligence co-existing with high IQ? I wonder if you just want people who will share the same interests as you in the same way. What do you consider successful communication?



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08 Nov 2013, 3:53 pm

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I feel I've only ever been able to communicate at all with other people with high IQs. Maybe that just comes from working in science/engineering fields most of my life.


People with extremely high IQs are bound to be excruciatingly boring,no? Or can you have high Emotional Intelligence co-existing with high IQ? I wonder if you just want people who will share the same interests as you in the same way. What do you consider successful communication?


Talking about a topic we can both discuss, either because one or both of us know the subject matter or because we're both capable of understanding the concepts. Also critical for me to differentiate mere exchanging of information from actually communicating, is the ability to inject humor into the discussion, or to go off on whimsical tangents and have the other person be able to follow. Agreed, high IQ without a sense of humor tends to be excruciatingly boring. :)

Conversely, a sense of humor without the intellect tends to get repetitive after awhile. I like being around people who can find humor in everything, usually the weirder or more esoteric the humor the better.



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08 Nov 2013, 3:57 pm

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I feel I've only ever been able to communicate at all with other people with high IQs. Maybe that just comes from working in science/engineering fields most of my life.


People with extremely high IQs are bound to be excruciatingly boring,no? Or can you have high Emotional Intelligence co-existing with high IQ? I wonder if you just want people who will share the same interests as you in the same way. What do you consider successful communication?


Talking about a topic we can both discuss, either because one or both of us know the subject matter or because we're both capable of understanding the concepts. Also critical for me to differentiate mere exchanging of information from actually communicating, is the ability to inject humor into the discussion, or to go off on whimsical tangents and have the other person be able to follow. Agreed, high IQ without a sense of humor tends to be excruciatingly boring. :)

Conversely, a sense of humor without the intellect tends to get repetitive after awhile. I like being around people who can find humor in everything, usually the weirder or more esoteric the humor the better.


Now, that's a much more precise description of what you are looking for and I think it pays to be aware of the difference. (because of all the magical goldfish fair tales)

I hope you find another person who fits that criteria. And for what it's worth, I am so very sorry for your loss.



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08 Nov 2013, 4:21 pm

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I feel I've only ever been able to communicate at all with other people with high IQs. Maybe that just comes from working in science/engineering fields most of my life.


People with extremely high IQs are bound to be excruciatingly boring,no? Or can you have high Emotional Intelligence co-existing with high IQ? I wonder if you just want people who will share the same interests as you in the same way. What do you consider successful communication?


Talking about a topic we can both discuss, either because one or both of us know the subject matter or because we're both capable of understanding the concepts. Also critical for me to differentiate mere exchanging of information from actually communicating, is the ability to inject humor into the discussion, or to go off on whimsical tangents and have the other person be able to follow. Agreed, high IQ without a sense of humor tends to be excruciatingly boring. :)

Conversely, a sense of humor without the intellect tends to get repetitive after awhile. I like being around people who can find humor in everything, usually the weirder or more esoteric the humor the better.


Now, that's a much more precise description of what you are looking for and I think it pays to be aware of the difference. (because of all the magical goldfish fair tales)

I hope you find another person who fits that criteria. And for what it's worth, I am so very sorry for your loss.


Thanks for helping to better define that! It is definitely not about intellect alone.



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08 Nov 2013, 5:24 pm

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Talking about a topic we can both discuss, either because one or both of us know the subject matter or because we're both capable of understanding the concepts.

Eh, is this necessarily something that can be reduced to an IQ cut off though? Most people with an IQ over about 120/125 can probably understand/learn most concepts, and have an engaging and humoured conversation. I believe Richard Feynmann was given an IQ in the 124 whilst at school.



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08 Nov 2013, 5:25 pm

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Talking about a topic we can both discuss, either because one or both of us know the subject matter or because we're both capable of understanding the concepts.

Eh, is this necessarily something that can be reduced to an IQ cut off though? Most people with an IQ over about 120/125 can probably understand/learn most concepts, and have an engaging and humoured conversation. I believe Richard Feynmann was given an IQ in the 124 whilst at school.


Dude, we have just covered that. Pay attention! :roll:



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08 Nov 2013, 5:28 pm

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Dude, we have just covered that. Pay attention! :roll:

Not really. I am talking about arbitrary quantitative measures of intelligence as opposed to what I took your previous conversation to be: a discussion on the qualitative aspects of intelligence. I just don't see how you could rule up someone who was intelligent (first-class degree intelligent), but not in some elite top 2% percent of the population.



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08 Nov 2013, 5:32 pm

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Dude, we have just covered that. Pay attention! :roll:

Not really. I am talking about arbitrary quantitative measures of intelligence as opposed to what I took your previous conversation to be: a discussion on the qualitative aspects of intelligence. I just don't see how you could rule up someone who was intelligent (first-class degree intelligent), but not in some elite top 2% percent of the population.


What you are talking about was implicit in what we were talking about. And to be very very clear, what you are now talking about is a generalisation as opposed to evaluation of OPs specific requirements. Don't make this about you. (as well)



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08 Nov 2013, 5:38 pm

There's also the factor that I really enjoy many of the eccentricities that tend to go hand-in-hand with the top 1% of intellect. The four best relationships I've had in my life (two romantic, two friendships) have all been with people with IQs over 150. I'm thinking that's not entirely a coincidence.

*ahem* Not to mention which I need someone who can at least be tolerant, if not appreciative, of my own eccentricities. :D



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09 Nov 2013, 3:12 am

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There's also the factor that I really enjoy many of the eccentricities that tend to go hand-in-hand with the top 1% of intellect. The four best relationships I've had in my life (two romantic, two friendships) have all been with people with IQs over 150. I'm thinking that's not entirely a coincidence.

Well that's a fair answer to the question. Aspies more generally have a lot of idiosyncratic behaviour as well, but I suppose this is more likely to be stereotyped behaviour than a kind of creative eccentricity.