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02 Mar 2014, 7:22 pm

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Women use looking good or being flirty for a number of different reasons, most of them have nothing to do with sex.


Which other reasons?


fun and games, just getting to know people
passing the time
another way of being pleasant without implying any actual contract (people love attention)


Yes.

Flirting isn't really something I can do, or if I do it then I'm unaware of it, but I do like to look good for myself. I sometimes go and stay in a hotel on my own, for a break from the stress of work. The hotel I go to has a fairly formal dining room and I get dressed up to have dinner on my own. I do that because I enjoy it, not because I'm looking for a man or to have sex with anyone. It's a confidence boost, I suppose, and it's appropriate for the setting.



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02 Mar 2014, 7:36 pm

Marcia wrote:
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Women use looking good or being flirty for a number of different reasons, most of them have nothing to do with sex.


Which other reasons?


fun and games, just getting to know people
passing the time
another way of being pleasant without implying any actual contract (people love attention)


Yes.

Flirting isn't really something I can do, or if I do it then I'm unaware of it, but I do like to look good for myself. I sometimes go and stay in a hotel on my own, for a break from the stress of work. The hotel I go to has a fairly formal dining room and I get dressed up to have dinner on my own. I do that because I enjoy it, not because I'm looking for a man or to have sex with anyone. It's a confidence boost, I suppose, and it's appropriate for the setting.


if I implied I could do it I apologize, I merely know intellectually what it is about. It is like much of interactions, I know why others do it and some stuff - does not mean I can do it (same with dancing)


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02 Mar 2014, 7:39 pm

Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


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02 Mar 2014, 7:46 pm

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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


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02 Mar 2014, 8:06 pm

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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


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02 Mar 2014, 8:09 pm

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If I came across this lady she would already have been getting it.


this is rape culture on display for the whole world.


:lol:

Nah, it's just a bit of humour. A simple play on words that the op didn't realize were an unintentional innuendo.

Besides that, the chances of that are slim to none seeing as I'm gay.

Get over it. It was just a simple joke. Lighten up & have a laugh.


Unlike you, I don't find rape funny. Cathylynn is right, this is a horrible example of our rape culture, and I really don't know what the point of this thread is.


How do you or anyone who's posted about this before you equate my comment to rape?

I never said or implied anything about nonconsensual sex.


The phrase "she was asking for it" and comments about how a woman was dressed are commonly understood references to rape. Your comment, quoted first above, is sexually aggressive and that you are gay doesn't alter that.


come on he just made a joke that he throught she was attractive, so she must be all ready taken. How the heck do you get rape from that. :scratch:

Plus he's gay so would probably be more interested in the guy on with the motorbike. :lmao:


jokes about rape or demeaning people for their appearance or assuming anything about what it means you are allowed to do to them IS "rape culture" and encourages people to think of others as objects and is what has allowed for so much abuse and damage.

no one "asks for it" unless they actually come out and say, "yes I want to have sex with you"


He wasn't making a joke about rape.

Personally I think just being a man and breathing equals "rape culture". :roll:


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02 Mar 2014, 8:13 pm

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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


no one is being "manipulated" manipulation is trying to force someone to do something they don't want by pressuring them or lying in some way to get your way.

this is socially agreed game play, just good clean fun


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02 Mar 2014, 8:15 pm

MR_BOGAN wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Marcia wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Marcia wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
If I came across this lady she would already have been getting it.


this is rape culture on display for the whole world.


:lol:

Nah, it's just a bit of humour. A simple play on words that the op didn't realize were an unintentional innuendo.

Besides that, the chances of that are slim to none seeing as I'm gay.

Get over it. It was just a simple joke. Lighten up & have a laugh.


Unlike you, I don't find rape funny. Cathylynn is right, this is a horrible example of our rape culture, and I really don't know what the point of this thread is.


How do you or anyone who's posted about this before you equate my comment to rape?

I never said or implied anything about nonconsensual sex.


The phrase "she was asking for it" and comments about how a woman was dressed are commonly understood references to rape. Your comment, quoted first above, is sexually aggressive and that you are gay doesn't alter that.


come on he just made a joke that he throught she was attractive, so she must be all ready taken. How the heck do you get rape from that. :scratch:

Plus he's gay so would probably be more interested in the guy on with the motorbike. :lmao:


jokes about rape or demeaning people for their appearance or assuming anything about what it means you are allowed to do to them IS "rape culture" and encourages people to think of others as objects and is what has allowed for so much abuse and damage.

no one "asks for it" unless they actually come out and say, "yes I want to have sex with you"


He wasn't making a joke about rape.

Personally I think just being a man and breathing equals "rape culture". :roll:


strange - the men all find "joking" about this stuff just fine

but call us womyn out as "haters" for simply admitting the reality that you guys are out to get us and the culture will not defend us


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02 Mar 2014, 8:22 pm

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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


Women like to be validated. They flirt when they are not interested to get a confidence boost, they like to know that they are desired. That's all they are interested in.

That's what it all really boils down to.


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02 Mar 2014, 8:25 pm

GivePeaceAChance wrote:
onewithstrange wrote:
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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


no one is being "manipulated" manipulation is trying to force someone to do something they don't want by pressuring them or lying in some way to get your way.

this is socially agreed game play, just good clean fun


Since when does leading someone on not count as lying? It wouldn't make me feel very good to have been fooled for someone else's benefit and I can't imagine it would make you feel particularly great either.


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02 Mar 2014, 8:27 pm

onewithstrange wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
onewithstrange wrote:
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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


no one is being "manipulated" manipulation is trying to force someone to do something they don't want by pressuring them or lying in some way to get your way.

this is socially agreed game play, just good clean fun


Since when does leading someone on not count as lying? It wouldn't make me feel very good to have been fooled for someone else's benefit and I can't imagine it would make you feel particularly great either.


acknowledged game play is NOT leading on - both sides play at this


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02 Mar 2014, 8:28 pm

MR_BOGAN wrote:
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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


Women like to be validated. They flirt when they are not interested to get a confidence boost, they like to know that they are desired. That's all they are interested in.

That's what it all really boils down to.


not just womyn both sides get validated


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02 Mar 2014, 8:37 pm

GivePeaceAChance wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Marcia wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Marcia wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
If I came across this lady she would already have been getting it.


this is rape culture on display for the whole world.


:lol:

Nah, it's just a bit of humour. A simple play on words that the op didn't realize were an unintentional innuendo.

Besides that, the chances of that are slim to none seeing as I'm gay.

Get over it. It was just a simple joke. Lighten up & have a laugh.


Unlike you, I don't find rape funny. Cathylynn is right, this is a horrible example of our rape culture, and I really don't know what the point of this thread is.


How do you or anyone who's posted about this before you equate my comment to rape?

I never said or implied anything about nonconsensual sex.


The phrase "she was asking for it" and comments about how a woman was dressed are commonly understood references to rape. Your comment, quoted first above, is sexually aggressive and that you are gay doesn't alter that.


come on he just made a joke that he throught she was attractive, so she must be all ready taken. How the heck do you get rape from that. :scratch:

Plus he's gay so would probably be more interested in the guy on with the motorbike. :lmao:


jokes about rape or demeaning people for their appearance or assuming anything about what it means you are allowed to do to them IS "rape culture" and encourages people to think of others as objects and is what has allowed for so much abuse and damage.

no one "asks for it" unless they actually come out and say, "yes I want to have sex with you"


He wasn't making a joke about rape.

Personally I think just being a man and breathing equals "rape culture". :roll:


strange - the men all find "joking" about this stuff just fine

but call us womyn out as "haters" for simply admitting the reality that you guys are out to get us and the culture will not defend us


I'm sorry you feel that way. but that's not the reality. Predators are out to get you. I'm not out to get anyone.
The law doesn't defend rapists, I'd be more than happy to deal to one and would never defend one.

Just don't put all men in the same box.

goldfish21 and me defending him are not making jokes about rape.


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02 Mar 2014, 8:40 pm

MR_BOGAN wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
GivePeaceAChance wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Marcia wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Marcia wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
cathylynn wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
If I came across this lady she would already have been getting it.


this is rape culture on display for the whole world.


:lol:

Nah, it's just a bit of humour. A simple play on words that the op didn't realize were an unintentional innuendo.

Besides that, the chances of that are slim to none seeing as I'm gay.

Get over it. It was just a simple joke. Lighten up & have a laugh.


Unlike you, I don't find rape funny. Cathylynn is right, this is a horrible example of our rape culture, and I really don't know what the point of this thread is.


How do you or anyone who's posted about this before you equate my comment to rape?

I never said or implied anything about nonconsensual sex.


The phrase "she was asking for it" and comments about how a woman was dressed are commonly understood references to rape. Your comment, quoted first above, is sexually aggressive and that you are gay doesn't alter that.


come on he just made a joke that he throught she was attractive, so she must be all ready taken. How the heck do you get rape from that. :scratch:

Plus he's gay so would probably be more interested in the guy on with the motorbike. :lmao:


jokes about rape or demeaning people for their appearance or assuming anything about what it means you are allowed to do to them IS "rape culture" and encourages people to think of others as objects and is what has allowed for so much abuse and damage.

no one "asks for it" unless they actually come out and say, "yes I want to have sex with you"


He wasn't making a joke about rape.

Personally I think just being a man and breathing equals "rape culture". :roll:


strange - the men all find "joking" about this stuff just fine

but call us womyn out as "haters" for simply admitting the reality that you guys are out to get us and the culture will not defend us


I'm sorry you feel that way. but that's not the reality. Predators are out to get you. I'm not out to get anyone.
The law doesn't defend rapists, I'd be more than happy to deal to one and would never defend one.

Just don't put all men in the same box.

goldfish21 and me defending him are not making jokes about rape.


don't invalidate 97% of womyns experience

we get raped and the men go free

when I got raped the police just laughed as I tried to report it, many of my friends have the same experience


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Women like to be validated. They flirt when they are not interested to get a confidence boost, they like to know that they are desired. That's all they are interested in.

That's what it all really boils down to.


Which also applies both ways. I've seen it.



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Like I said earlier, I do understand wanting to look good to feel good about yourself. What I don't get is how a girl being flirty should be interpreted as anything other than, "Hey, I think she likes me." That wrecks my head.


becaue you are misinterpreting social clues like we all do.

just because I want to play a game or pass the time does not mean I want anything more serious or that you are anything more than one part of the game (not ME in particular - this is the thought process)


Okay, that's plain manipulative and wrong.


Women like to be validated. They flirt when they are not interested to get a confidence boost, they like to know that they are desired. That's all they are interested in.

That's what it all really boils down to.


not just womyn both sides get validated


It can be like trading self esteem. If someone leads someone else on. They get a self esteem boost from getting validated the other can get rejected and losses self esteem.

I'd never flirt and pretend to be interested in someone I wasn't just to make myself feel good about myself. That's a pretty low and sad thing to do IMO. :shrug:


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