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27 Mar 2014, 5:33 pm

I am very glad for you both. However I think it is misleading to suggest to people that what has worked for you will work for them - because while it might, it also might not. All people are different, as you say, age is just a number, so it doesn't mean that all women in their 30s will be as you describe.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:09 pm

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The reason I am single is because I haven't found anyone who makes me feel so crazy that I would be willing to sacrifice disrupting my life for them to an uncertain end.


ditto.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:12 pm

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I think it may be that more women have learned to be happy single or are gay compared to men. Women don't need men for sex like men need women because of the way their parts work; there's numerous sex toys for women but not many for men unless their gay.


Uh, try shopping for them. Women have a larger selection of sex toys, to be sure, but there's no lack of options for straight men, who have the same physiology as gay men. I don't even understand the rest of your argument, but it also sounds like unexamined ideas based on cultural preconceptions.


yeah, they have those things that look like flashlights now, among others. :wink:



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27 Mar 2014, 6:14 pm

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's very rare to see a woman saying "because no man wants me".
I've seen women say that on this forum but I see men saying "because no women wants me" alot more & I've said that one myself.


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I don't agree that men generally have a higher sex drive.

And I don't agree that men are generally less loyal than women, studies tho that infidelity is almost equal despite the difference in the causes/reasons.

The real reasons are what Wind and thewhitrbbit said.

I rarely meet a girl who's single not by her own choice too.

Common reasons men say why they're single (Online, because in real life they less likely to admit why):
- No girl likes me.
- I am not attractive.
- I've asked out many but everyone is rejecting me.
- I am poor or I am broke or I am too fat.
- All women want successful and good-looking men while I am not.

Common reasons women say why they're single:
- I didn't find the right man yet.
- I want someone who's X, X and X...
- I got bored of losers.
- I can't find a good man in my area.
- All men in area are losers and/or ugly.

The reasons given by women shows that there's no lack of admirers/interested men but there's a lack of men who fit their criteria. While the reasons give by men often show they are not even on demand.

Reasons given by men often indicate that they have shortcomings in life, while reasons given by women don't indicate they have shortcomings but they see a lot of shortcomings in their admirers.

It's very rare to see a woman saying "because no man wants me".


Even more why you should go for older women because they have a more realistic down to earth view on the world whereas young women tend to think more in the clouds.

The same applies for a lot of foreign women, they have a more realistic perspective whereas Western women may have been brainwashed by pop culture.
I've noticed that but also noticed that lots of em have kids & I've also noticed that younger women like that also tend to have kids. The older a woman is the more likely it is that she has/had kids so it may seem like age is a huge factor when having kids is just as much if not more of one. There are plenty of exceptions out there of coarse thou.

it's just as difficult as a woman to find a man without kids at this age, trust me.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:28 pm

Archdevilius wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
nick007 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
It's very rare to see a woman saying "because no man wants me".
I've seen women say that on this forum but I see men saying "because no women wants me" alot more & I've said that one myself.


Archdevilius wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I don't agree that men generally have a higher sex drive.

And I don't agree that men are generally less loyal than women, studies tho that infidelity is almost equal despite the difference in the causes/reasons.

The real reasons are what Wind and thewhitrbbit said.

I rarely meet a girl who's single not by her own choice too.

Common reasons men say why they're single (Online, because in real life they less likely to admit why):
- No girl likes me.
- I am not attractive.
- I've asked out many but everyone is rejecting me.
- I am poor or I am broke or I am too fat.
- All women want successful and good-looking men while I am not.

Common reasons women say why they're single:
- I didn't find the right man yet.
- I want someone who's X, X and X...
- I got bored of losers.
- I can't find a good man in my area.
- All men in area are losers and/or ugly.

The reasons given by women shows that there's no lack of admirers/interested men but there's a lack of men who fit their criteria. While the reasons give by men often show they are not even on demand.

Reasons given by men often indicate that they have shortcomings in life, while reasons given by women don't indicate they have shortcomings but they see a lot of shortcomings in their admirers.

It's very rare to see a woman saying "because no man wants me".


Even more why you should go for older women because they have a more realistic down to earth view on the world whereas young women tend to think more in the clouds.

The same applies for a lot of foreign women, they have a more realistic perspective whereas Western women may have been brainwashed by pop culture.
I've noticed that but also noticed that lots of em have kids & I've also noticed that younger women like that also tend to have kids. The older a woman is the more likely it is that she has/had kids so it may seem like age is a huge factor when having kids is just as much if not more of one. There are plenty of exceptions out there of coarse thou.

it's just as difficult as a woman to find a man without kids at this age, trust me.


If she's what you are looking for and she has a kid or two, what's the problem?


some of us don't want kids, our own or other people's.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:34 pm

I just thought of that so I retracted my statement, kids aren't for everyone.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:50 pm

leafplant wrote:
I am very glad for you both. However I think it is misleading to suggest to people that what has worked for you will work for them - because while it might, it also might not. All people are different, as you say, age is just a number, so it doesn't mean that all women in their 30s will be as you describe.


That's what I'm saying, age shouldn't matter, it's just a number.

I have always found older women to be more forgiving, understanding, patient and tolerant towards any differences caused by my Autism but if someone finds that in a younger person, good for them.



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27 Mar 2014, 6:52 pm

Archdevilius wrote:
leafplant wrote:
I am very glad for you both. However I think it is misleading to suggest to people that what has worked for you will work for them - because while it might, it also might not. All people are different, as you say, age is just a number, so it doesn't mean that all women in their 30s will be as you describe.


That's what I'm saying, age shouldn't matter, it's just a number.

I have always found older women to be more forgiving, understanding, patient and tolerant towards any differences caused by my Autism but if someone finds that in a younger person, good for them.


Sure, that sounds great but I am wondering, as an older lady, what would be my incentive for dating a toy boy?



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27 Mar 2014, 7:06 pm

leafplant wrote:
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leafplant wrote:
I am very glad for you both. However I think it is misleading to suggest to people that what has worked for you will work for them - because while it might, it also might not. All people are different, as you say, age is just a number, so it doesn't mean that all women in their 30s will be as you describe.


That's what I'm saying, age shouldn't matter, it's just a number.

I have always found older women to be more forgiving, understanding, patient and tolerant towards any differences caused by my Autism but if someone finds that in a younger person, good for them.


Sure, that sounds great but I am wondering, as an older lady, what would be my incentive for dating a toy boy?


There are many reasons, some want to feel younger, some prefer being the mentor, some prefer the higher energy and sex drive in the bedroom and some prefer that younger men aren't yet bitter or jaded in their attitudes towards women.

https://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/7-reas ... 00697.html



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27 Mar 2014, 7:13 pm

Archdevilius wrote:
leafplant wrote:
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leafplant wrote:
I am very glad for you both. However I think it is misleading to suggest to people that what has worked for you will work for them - because while it might, it also might not. All people are different, as you say, age is just a number, so it doesn't mean that all women in their 30s will be as you describe.


That's what I'm saying, age shouldn't matter, it's just a number.

I have always found older women to be more forgiving, understanding, patient and tolerant towards any differences caused by my Autism but if someone finds that in a younger person, good for them.


Sure, that sounds great but I am wondering, as an older lady, what would be my incentive for dating a toy boy?


There are many reasons, some want to feel younger, some prefer being the mentor, some prefer the higher energy and sex drive in the bedroom and some prefer that younger men aren't yet bitter or jaded in their attitudes towards women.

https://shine.yahoo.com/love-sex/7-reas ... 00697.html


except for the ones that have been watching hard core porn online since they were 11 and think real women are supposed to look like porn stars, should be willing to have anal sex, be abused, berated, and willing to take a "money shot" in the face as well as any number of other indignities.

other than those guys, sure.



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27 Mar 2014, 7:20 pm

Thanks for that, very interesting, but I was thinking about me, specifically. None of those reasons appeal or apply to me and those articles are written with NTs in mind (which I am definitely not, even though what I am is uncertain).

The other problem is that I look a lot younger. People seem to think I am in my late twenties to early, max mid thirties. In fact I am 43 going on 247.

I just can't figure out what type of human would be compatible with me..(age range/background/culture/gender)
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27 Mar 2014, 7:24 pm

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except for the ones that have been watching hard core porn online since they were 11 and think real women are supposed to look like porn stars, should be willing to have anal sex, be abused, berated, and willing to take a "money shot" in the face as well as any number of other indignities.

other than those guys, sure.


Is there some way to tell those guys from afar? Or some test you could give them that exposes them for that type of person, because I suspect most of those guys like to pretend they are regular kind of guys and then slowly bit by bit try to persuade you into allowing more and more stuff you are not comfortable with..



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27 Mar 2014, 7:42 pm

leafplant wrote:
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except for the ones that have been watching hard core porn online since they were 11 and think real women are supposed to look like porn stars, should be willing to have anal sex, be abused, berated, and willing to take a "money shot" in the face as well as any number of other indignities.

other than those guys, sure.


Is there some way to tell those guys from afar? Or some test you could give them that exposes them for that type of person, because I suspect most of those guys like to pretend they are regular kind of guys and then slowly bit by bit try to persuade you into allowing more and more stuff you are not comfortable with..


i wish there was some "tell"--then maybe i wouldn't feel it necessary to avoid dating altogether.



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27 Mar 2014, 11:31 pm

starvingartist wrote:
leafplant wrote:
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except for the ones that have been watching hard core porn online since they were 11 and think real women are supposed to look like porn stars, should be willing to have anal sex, be abused, berated, and willing to take a "money shot" in the face as well as any number of other indignities.

other than those guys, sure.


Is there some way to tell those guys from afar? Or some test you could give them that exposes them for that type of person, because I suspect most of those guys like to pretend they are regular kind of guys and then slowly bit by bit try to persuade you into allowing more and more stuff you are not comfortable with..


i wish there was some "tell"--then maybe i wouldn't feel it necessary to avoid dating altogether.


You can't tell by comments they make about women? I'm thinking specifically about guys who see sex as power. What about guys who can't respect boundaries (throw a fit about non-sex related stuff). What about guys who can't communicate outside the bedroom (probably the type of guy who will assume that you like porn sex because it never occurs to them to ask you what you want or how what they are doing feels).



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27 Mar 2014, 11:35 pm

em_tsuj wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
leafplant wrote:
starvingartist wrote:

except for the ones that have been watching hard core porn online since they were 11 and think real women are supposed to look like porn stars, should be willing to have anal sex, be abused, berated, and willing to take a "money shot" in the face as well as any number of other indignities.

other than those guys, sure.


Is there some way to tell those guys from afar? Or some test you could give them that exposes them for that type of person, because I suspect most of those guys like to pretend they are regular kind of guys and then slowly bit by bit try to persuade you into allowing more and more stuff you are not comfortable with..


i wish there was some "tell"--then maybe i wouldn't feel it necessary to avoid dating altogether.


You can't tell by comments they make about women? I'm thinking specifically about guys who see sex as power. What about guys who can't respect boundaries (throw a fit about non-sex related stuff). What about guys who can't communicate outside the bedroom (probably the type of guy who will assume that you like porn sex because it never occurs to them to ask you what you want or how what they are doing feels).


it's more that i'm not willing to sort through all the a**holes to get to a decent one--i don't trust anyone enough to even start looking. also, people lie. a lot. especially if they want something from you.



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27 Mar 2014, 11:50 pm

starvingartist wrote:
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starvingartist wrote:
leafplant wrote:
starvingartist wrote:

except for the ones that have been watching hard core porn online since they were 11 and think real women are supposed to look like porn stars, should be willing to have anal sex, be abused, berated, and willing to take a "money shot" in the face as well as any number of other indignities.

other than those guys, sure.


Is there some way to tell those guys from afar? Or some test you could give them that exposes them for that type of person, because I suspect most of those guys like to pretend they are regular kind of guys and then slowly bit by bit try to persuade you into allowing more and more stuff you are not comfortable with..


i wish there was some "tell"--then maybe i wouldn't feel it necessary to avoid dating altogether.


You can't tell by comments they make about women? I'm thinking specifically about guys who see sex as power. What about guys who can't respect boundaries (throw a fit about non-sex related stuff). What about guys who can't communicate outside the bedroom (probably the type of guy who will assume that you like porn sex because it never occurs to them to ask you what you want or how what they are doing feels).


it's more that i'm not willing to sort through all the a**holes to get to a decent one--i don't trust anyone enough to even start looking. also, people lie. a lot. especially if they want something from you.


That sucks. I understand, from personal experience, having that mentality. I wish it wasn't that way though. I'm not trying to hit on you or anything but it seems like a loss for us guys, you taking yourself off the market.

Are guys really that bad (meaning they don't learn over time how to love women instead of using the same old tired tricks in order to dominate them)? This is not a rhetorical question. I'm just now picking up on why women put up all these walls when being approached. It used to piss me off (guilty until proven innocent type of thing). Now I think about their past experience and accept the fact that I have to prove myself.