The UCSB shooter--an Aspie with a rant against women

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Please, please stop this nonsense. It is hateful and hurtful.

If a person isolated themselves it wouldn't fix loneliness though, they're literally between a rock and a hard place. Lonelines is what leads to those attempts, which then led to rejections and a sense of powerlessness.

It's somehwat hard for me to divorse the want of a significant other from a sense of entitlement, it just seems to me that it comes with your humanity, you want to believe that there is a singificant other because there is a part of our brains that desires it with a passion. It's hard to seperate this intense passion from that longing, it's just a wild and intense thing by it's nature. Which is why these guys can't completely isolate themselves and be content in that... we're made to have significant others.

We need to look at the bigger picture here, young men who feel lonely now, don't give up as some people are late bloomers.

Get it out your system, screw the Hollywood perfect family monogamy image. .

And by the way, this whole alpha male bull phenomenon is a US sensation, most non Western women are happy to find a good guy.

US women are not just a baffle to US men but they baffle the entire world when they go for douches, most of the MTV douches would be seen as vulgar and unattractive in other cultures and communities.

In Asia or certain parts of Europe, you will find a nicer women and there's a ninety five percent chance she will fulfil your desires better.

"I want" and "mine" are two very, very different things, and normally children learn the difference around the age of five or six. If you really can't tell the difference between these two, you're in line for some serious trouble, and potentially dangerous to others. I'd suggest you find a counselor to help you with it.

People all over the world want things badly that they have no right to, and won't ever have. Societies generally come to agreements about what people are and aren't entitled to. Normally the arguments are over money, health, and opportunities -- to go to school, to work, to own property (property, not people), to live in this neighborhood or that, to wear this or that, travel here or there, be supported in old age, have healthcare, have a place to live, be free from violence.

I can't think of anyplace in the industrialized world where the debates are over whether or not you get to have a spouse. Because they're people, not objects. You are not entitled. You may be consumed with longing, but no, you're not entitled, and neither am I.

How about this analogy, to put yourself in his shoes in a similar light, and imagine now your children cannot and WILL NOT love you, they don't want anything to do with you, despite all your attempts of affection, and aren't you entitled to their love as their parent? Thats why its hard to separate a want of love from feelings of entitlement, you're dealing with intense passion that's inherent in every human being, it's just something that defines our entire existence, and because it defines our entire existence, its nonexistence is going to manifest in some nasty shape or form in our society.... People who are separated from love will be more susceptible to the derangement caused by its lack of existence.

And Isn't a human being entitled to love when they enter this world? Isn't a baby entitled to love? Does the baby have to earn it? Sorry for preying on your maternal instincts but I think it illustrate my point... it's very hard to separate entitlement of love from your humanity, it's just something that human beings NEED and crave.

How about this analogy, to put yourself in his shoes in a similar light, and imagine now your children cannot and WILL NOT love you, they don't want anything to do with you, despite all your attempts of affection, and aren't you entitled to their love as their parent?

He was very particular and deliberate in the lives he was taking, though.

He was a misogynist. Have you seen the video? You could write up much of it as standard stuff on here (and elsewhere).

Transcript copy-pasted from the thread on the shooting in News:

"Hi, Elliot Rodger here.

Well? this is my last video. It all has to come to this.

Tomorrow is the day of retribution. The day in which I will have my revenge against humanity. Against all of you.

For the last 8 years of my life, ever since I?ve hit puberty, I?ve been forced to endure an existence of loneliness, rejection, and unfulfilled desires. All because girls have never been attracted to me.

Girls gave their affection, and sex, and love, to other men but never to me.

I?m 22 years old and I?m still a virgin. I?ve never even kissed a girl.

I?ve been through college for two and a half years, more than that actually, and I?m still a virgin.

It has been very torturous.

College is the time when everyone experiences those things such as sex, and fun, and pleasure. But in those years I?ve had to rot in loneliness.

It?s not fair. You girls have never been attracted to me.

I don?t know why you girls aren?t attracted to me, but I will punish you all for it.

It?s an injustice, a crime, because I don?t know what you don?t see in me. I?m the perfect guy, and yet you throw yourselves at all these obnoxious men, instead of me, the supreme gentlemen.

I will punish all of you for it. (laughs)

On the day of retribution I am going to enter the hottest sorority house of UCSB? and I will slaughter every single spoiled, stuck-up, blonde slut I see inside there.

All those girls that I?ve desired so much, they would?ve all rejected me and looked down upon me as an inferior man if I ever made a sexual advance towards them while they throw themselves at these obnoxious brutes.

I will take great pleasure in slaughtering all of you.

You will finally see that I am in truth the superior one. The true alpha male. (laughs)

Yes, after I?ve annihilated every single girl in the sorority house, I?ll take to the streets of Isla Vista, and slay every single person I see there.

All those popular kids who live such lives of hedonistic pleasure while I?ve had to rot in loneliness for all these years, they?ve all looked down upon me every time I try to go out and join them. They?ve all treated me like a mouse.

Well now, I will be a God compared to you. You will all be animals. You are animals, and I will slaughter you like animals. I will be a God, exacting my retribution, on all those who deserve it.

And you do deserve it, just for the crime of living a better life than me.

All you popular kids. You?ve never accepted me, and now you?ll all pay for it.

And girls, all I?ve ever wanted was to love you, and to be loved by you. I?ve wanted a girlfriend, I?ve wanted sex, I?ve wanted love, affection, adoration, but you think I?m unworthy of it.

That?s a crime that can never be forgiven.

If I can?t have you, girls, I will destroy you. (laughs)

You denied me a happy life, and in turn, I will deny all of you life. (laughs) It?s only fair.

I hate all of you, humanity is a disgusting, wretched, depraved species. If I had it in my power, I would stop at nothing, to reduce every single one of you to mountains of skulls and rivers of blood, and rightfully so.

You deserve to be annihilated. And I?ll give that to you.

You never showed me any mercy, and so I will show you none. (laughs)

You force me to suffer all my life, and now I?ll make you all suffer.

I?ve waited a long time for this.

I?ll give you exactly what you deserve."

And by the way, this whole alpha male bull phenomenon is a US sensation, most non Western women are happy to find a good guy.

US women are not just a baffle to US men but they baffle the entire world when they go for douches, most of the MTV douches would be seen as vulgar and unattractive in other cultures and communities.

In Asia or certain parts of Europe, you will find a nicer women and there's a ninety five percent chance she will fulfil your desires better.

Controlling men do this. They go to other countries where women are considered second class in order to "get" a woman to control. I see men do this ESPECIALLY in places where the women often have no choice but to either go with a well off abuser or die due to starvation. It's DISGUSTING, and these men are USERS AND ABUSERS.

How about this analogy, to put yourself in his shoes in a similar light, and imagine now your children cannot and WILL NOT love you, they don't want anything to do with you, despite all your attempts of affection, and aren't you entitled to their love as their parent? Thats why its hard to separate a want of love from feelings of entitlement, you're dealing with intense passion that's inherent in every human being, it's just something that defines our entire existence, and because it defines our entire existence, its nonexistence is going to manifest in some nasty shape or form in our society.... People who are separated from love will be more susceptible to the derangement caused by its lack of existence.

And Isn't a human being entitled to love when they enter this world? Isn't a baby entitled to love? Does the baby have to earn it? Sorry for preying on your maternal instincts but I think it illustrate my point... it's very hard to separate entitlement of love from your humanity, it's just something that human beings NEED and crave.

I think the problem here is psychiatry and psychology tends to attract lazy types, people looking for a lifestyle job. Not all of them, but too many of them. I've had several of them, some of who were good, some of who thought I was going to figure out things, and they sat back and laughed, enjoyed the money, etc.

Also, we should hear how tall he is. I in no way justify anything he did, but heightism against men is far more brutal than weightism against women, who can lose and change. We all know men NEED sex for mental health and stability. Heightism is almost as bad as racism, esp. because people can be heightist in public. He describes the view of him as a "mouse," "manlet," which implies he was small. Lucky for me, I managed to get laid, at 23, in a ONS, and I tried hard to improve. Something tells me this guy's therapist hasn't pushed him to change his personality/social flaws enough to get with anyone. UCSD is a big school: he should be able to get a ONS. I also lowered my standards, this kid doesn't look like he did at all. But still, heightism must be explored.

It honestly does not sound very different, except in immediate intent, from things I hear routinely here.

This young man should have chosen suicide over lashing out at others.

We all know men NEED sex for mental health and stability.