Ladies does fat on guys really matter that much?
goldfish21
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what do you consider normal stuff and what is sh***y stuff?
sh***y stuff for me would be: Rarely any vegetable dishes, only stuff like Pizza, ... every day. Nothing bad about a Pizza one a week, but the majority of your meals should be normal foods. When a partner insisted on eating sh***y stuff all the time, then you always needed to do two separate meals, which sucks as well.
I'm with you on that. I could never be with someone that insisted on eating sh***y food. I'm no foodie & am indifferent about expensive restaurant meals. I prefer to cook at home w/ real fresh food/ingredients. Ideally someone I was with was similar. Even if they were thin, if they ate sh***y food all the time I don't think they'd be someone I'd want to be with.
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what do you consider normal stuff and what is sh***y stuff?
sh***y stuff for me would be: Rarely any vegetable dishes, only stuff like Pizza, ... every day. Nothing bad about a Pizza one a week, but the majority of your meals should be normal foods. When a partner insisted on eating sh***y stuff all the time, then you always needed to do two separate meals, which sucks as well.
you didn't really answer o.O what is normal food?
I am poor so I eat poorly, some might consider normal food 5 star restaurants, others food make from scratch as in they grow it make their own wheat etc. to some it might be fast food.
vegetarians might consider anything non vegia sh***y, organic people similarly
all my food is bought at walmart usually. I use a lot of processed foods, as fresh meat and cheese cost a lot and doesn't last long. I try my best though
my sister mainly only eats pasta and pizza
I don't eat any vegetarian dishes. I also rarely eat fruits and vegetables, I try to eat peas, green beans or corn when I can though. these are the only ones I can't eat. fruit is limited to apples, bananas and grapes, sadly due to flys I can't keep any in house.
I don't mind cooking two meals I have to for my sister anyways. I prefer variety even with my pickiness.
you would not be the type for me I guess, sadly there are a lot like you. I don't like sports.
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We eat what is considered normal food down here. Lot's of fried foods, meat in every meal, high fat stuff, but I also cook a lot of Italian food as well.
While most people might consider this crappy, I have no problem with having a snack that's a bag of pork rinds and a Mountain Dew. A good breakfast to me is scrambled eggs, biscuits, sweet milk gravy, fried ham, boiled fruit with sugar and topped with the grease from the fried ham, grits, bacon, and maybe a sliced tomato with mayo on it or a piece of cantaloupe. The lunch I might pack my husband to take to work would be something like a couple of fried bologna sandwiches with cheese and mayo, a bag of chips, a piece of cake or pie, an apple, and a cut up green bell pepper with some salt. Also an egg biscuit for break in the morning. Supper might be a lasagne or it might be fried pork chops with mashed potatoes and gravy, macaroni and cheese, and green beans or butterbeans cooked all day with fatback and onions in the water. With a fresh homemade pie or cake for dessert and a loaf of homemade white bread or maybe biscuits or possibly a skillet of cornbread. Maybe a cut up onion or tomato on the side or just a washed green onion. And sweet tea, or Koolade for the kids. Now, that's whats good!
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While most people might consider this crappy, I have no problem with having a snack that's a bag of pork rinds and a Mountain Dew. A good breakfast to me is scrambled eggs, biscuits, sweet milk gravy, fried ham, boiled fruit with sugar and topped with the grease from the fried ham, grits, bacon, and maybe a sliced tomato with mayo on it or a piece of cantaloupe. The lunch I might pack my husband to take to work would be something like a couple of fried bologna sandwiches with cheese and mayo, a bag of chips, a piece of cake or pie, an apple, and a cut up green bell pepper with some salt. Also an egg biscuit for break in the morning. Supper might be a lasagne or it might be fried pork chops with mashed potatoes and gravy, macaroni and cheese, and green beans or butterbeans cooked all day with fatback and onions in the water. With a fresh homemade pie or cake for dessert and a loaf of homemade white bread or maybe biscuits or possibly a skillet of cornbread. Maybe a cut up onion or tomato on the side or just a washed green onion. And sweet tea, or Koolade for the kids. Now, that's whats good!
I want to eat at your house.
However, I've talked to/met both guys & girls that are in good-to-great shape who are only attracted to fat guys. My point is that there are all types of people out there and all types that are/aren't attracted to them.
Since there are all types of women who are attracted to fat guys, I assure you that being fat is not that only reason you're without a girlfriend. Chances are it's more to do with your personality, behaviour, confidence, and other things.
However, it is pretty well universally accepted that the better physical shape you're in the more attractive you become to a broader range of people, so it certainly would not hurt to improve your diet and exercise habits. It's been my experience that you'll also become happier, healthier, more energetic, more confident and so on - more attractive all around vs. just aesthetically.
So yeah, get yourself into better shape - but don't make the mistake of assuming that's the only reason you're single & work on every improving every part of yourself as a whole.
Yes to all of this. I always liked guys who were more underweight than overweight, and they often came with their own insecurities for not being as muscular as American culture said they should be. So there's someone for everyone. My husband was overweight before we met, and I likely wouldn't have been attracted to him if I had met him when he was heavy. He worked hard to lose 60 pounds, and he's a healthy weight now. We both eat well and do practical exercise to keep in shape.
what do you consider normal stuff and what is sh***y stuff?
sh***y stuff for me would be: Rarely any vegetable dishes, only stuff like Pizza, ... every day. Nothing bad about a Pizza one a week, but the majority of your meals should be normal foods. When a partner insisted on eating sh***y stuff all the time, then you always needed to do two separate meals, which sucks as well.
you didn't really answer o.O what is normal food?
I am poor so I eat poorly, some might consider normal food 5 star restaurants, others food make from scratch as in they grow it make their own wheat etc. to some it might be fast food.
vegetarians might consider anything non vegia sh***y, organic people similarly
all my food is bought at walmart usually. I use a lot of processed foods, as fresh meat and cheese cost a lot and doesn't last long. I try my best though
my sister mainly only eats pasta and pizza
I don't eat any vegetarian dishes. I also rarely eat fruits and vegetables, I try to eat peas, green beans or corn when I can though. these are the only ones I can't eat. fruit is limited to apples, bananas and grapes, sadly due to flys I can't keep any in house.
I don't mind cooking two meals I have to for my sister anyways. I prefer variety even with my pickiness.
you would not be the type for me I guess, sadly there are a lot like you. I don't like sports.
Exact recipes for normal food will depend on the area you live on, but simply everyday "traditional house-mom food", whatever that means in your area. Caring to buy healthy ingredients and cooking, see that you have in the end a balanced diet about nutrition, including vitamins, proteins, ... What exact recipes that may be, will depend on where you live, because that will have impact on what kind of ingredients are available to you. And "in the end" means, that there is nothing bad about a pizza or a burger once a week, but in exchange for that, there should be healthier meals as well. You cant really generalize that. So your saying that your sister eats lots of Pasta. That can mean anything: Is it instant Pasta with some kind of flavor-powder. Then there is not much nutrition in it. Is it pasta with an fresh tomato-herb sauce, and a fresh salad with herb dressing as a side dish? Then you have a good mix of calories (from the pasta) and vitamins from the sauce and the salad.
When it comes to OliveOilmom, I would not consider it crappy, so you see, she puts a lot of effort into it. Personally for me, there would be too much fat and sugar in it, but it also depends about for whom that food is. If you are a woodchopper, you definitely need another kind of diet, as if you are an office worker, that sits 90% of the day. On the days, when I am only in the office, and not visiting my building sites, I think the breakfast would fill me all day. ^^
OOM's menu is definitely different from my normal. My typical meals:
Breakfast: 8 oz of plain, fat-free yogurt with fruit, flaxseed meal, almonds, and sweetened with stevia. Cup of unsweetened herbal tea.
Snack: Muffin or piece of bread & jam. Cup of unsweetened tea.
Lunch: Sandwich with whole multi-grain bread (gluten free for me), lunch meat, cheese, lettuce, and mustard. One piece of fruit like an apple or peach. Side of chips, carrots, or olives. Cup of unsweetened tea or Zevia soda.
Dinner: This is where the splurging happens. Take-out or restaurant for Mexican, Thai, Indian, pizza, burgers, sushi, etc. Always with vegetables either in the entrée or as a salad. Glass of alcohol.
However, I've talked to/met both guys & girls that are in good-to-great shape who are only attracted to fat guys. My point is that there are all types of people out there and all types that are/aren't attracted to them.
Since there are all types of women who are attracted to fat guys, I assure you that being fat is not that only reason you're without a girlfriend. Chances are it's more to do with your personality, behavior, confidence, and other things.
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I believe they are out there, but likely in the minority. It doesn't seem they are on dating sites and why would they there's probably 20 fat guys to every one woman who finds them attractive. they have tons of choices without needing to go online to find them.
however at least in my area, skinny athletic guys are not as common, where as we have a over abundance of thin women. probably why most online daters here are thin women looking for but not finding thin guys. I won't dive into the percentage of thing guys that are as*holes or just after sex, I couldn't geuss but most the thin women list that the guys they've met has been those types.
I really do intend to do studies if I ever win the lottery I think it would be fun. as is I could only use comparing online profiles and cl ads.
"Chances are it's more to do with your personality, behavior, confidence, and other things."
lack of good job, own place, money.
not knowing where these thin girls who love fatties live.
oh and my face I was born with
other things I tend to be ok with though as with anything results vary woman to woman. some behaviors one woman might find bad, another will find silly, cute and attractive.
So why not do something that's within your control and get yourself into better shape via diet and exercise?
I shouldn't have to change who I am to be with others. I am find with how I am, it would make me unhappy to have to constantly do something I hate to keep a girl around. would probably just make me hate her.
what do you consider normal stuff and what is sh***y stuff?
sh***y stuff for me would be: Rarely any vegetable dishes, only stuff like Pizza, ... every day. Nothing bad about a Pizza one a week, but the majority of your meals should be normal foods. When a partner insisted on eating sh***y stuff all the time, then you always needed to do two separate meals, which sucks as well.
you didn't really answer o.O what is normal food?
I am poor so I eat poorly, some might consider normal food 5 star restaurants, others food make from scratch as in they grow it make their own wheat etc. to some it might be fast food.
vegetarians might consider anything non vegia sh***y, organic people similarly
all my food is bought at walmart usually. I use a lot of processed foods, as fresh meat and cheese cost a lot and doesn't last long. I try my best though
my sister mainly only eats pasta and pizza
I don't eat any vegetarian dishes. I also rarely eat fruits and vegetables, I try to eat peas, green beans or corn when I can though. these are the only ones I can't eat. fruit is limited to apples, bananas and grapes, sadly due to flys I can't keep any in house.
I don't mind cooking two meals I have to for my sister anyways. I prefer variety even with my pickiness.
you would not be the type for me I guess, sadly there are a lot like you. I don't like sports.
Exact recipes for normal food will depend on the area you live on, but simply everyday "traditional house-mom food", whatever that means in your area. Caring to buy healthy ingredients and cooking, see that you have in the end a balanced diet about nutrition, including vitamins, proteins, ... What exact recipes that may be, will depend on where you live, because that will have impact on what kind of ingredients are available to you. And "in the end" means, that there is nothing bad about a pizza or a burger once a week, but in exchange for that, there should be healthier meals as well. You cant really generalize that. So your saying that your sister eats lots of Pasta. That can mean anything: Is it instant Pasta with some kind of flavor-powder. Then there is not much nutrition in it. Is it pasta with an fresh tomato-herb sauce, and a fresh salad with herb dressing as a side dish? Then you have a good mix of calories (from the pasta) and vitamins from the sauce and the salad.
When it comes to OliveOilmom, I would not consider it crappy, so you see, she puts a lot of effort into it. Personally for me, there would be too much fat and sugar in it, but it also depends about for whom that food is. If you are a woodchopper, you definitely need another kind of diet, as if you are an office worker, that sits 90% of the day. On the days, when I am only in the office, and not visiting my building sites, I think the breakfast would fill me all day. ^^
never meet anyone here that goes thru all that effort,I was the only person I have known to count calories. i'ved never had anything cooked from scratch. everything is bought from store, we buy meat and then use a box meal to add the sauce and such.
we have homemade lasagna once every few months, but even then the noodles are from a box, the sauce is prego, the cheese comes in a bag etc. I never met someone that cooks from scratch except that girl I talked to from Iowa who said she made noodles from eggplants.
I geuss when i hear homemade I think making your own grain from wheat etc.
I couldn't be with someone who chooses to make negative decisions towards their health and food can be a drug as just as dangerous as tobacco or alcohol. Simply because it would cause too much conflict when it comes to dieting since I'm someone who lives on a strict gluten and dairy free diet of fish, vegetables, lentils and healthy foods on top of training 6 times a week, it just wouldn't work.
Me and my partner are both very healthy and she mainly eats vegetables and gluten free foods but if she ever changed or started unhealthy foods, we would have to have a serious talk in the same manner as if she started doing drugs.
Breakfast: 8 oz of plain, fat-free yogurt with fruit, flaxseed meal, almonds, and sweetened with stevia. Cup of unsweetened herbal tea.
Snack: Muffin or piece of bread & jam. Cup of unsweetened tea.
Lunch: Sandwich with whole multi-grain bread (gluten free for me), lunch meat, cheese, lettuce, and mustard. One piece of fruit like an apple or peach. Side of chips, carrots, or olives. Cup of unsweetened tea or Zevia soda.
Dinner: This is where the splurging happens. Take-out or restaurant for Mexican, Thai, Indian, pizza, burgers, sushi, etc. Always with vegetables either in the entrée or as a salad. Glass of alcohol.
It looks like you start the day good but slowly spiral downwards as they goes on...
Replace the muffin or piece of bread with a couple of bananas for energy, try getting an instant oats or waxy maize powder that you can drink, the carbohydrate uplift should replace the muffin.
Replace your sandwich, get rid of the unhealthy sauces, lunch meat, olives and cheese, a bowl of lentil and vegetables are all I have for lunch. As for dinner, you really need to get into the habit of not eating out and have something prepared, it takes ten minutes to cook a bowl of Quinoa which is a great substitute for potatoes, you also could try fish and use plenty of herbs to give it flavoring.
Well as for alcohol, you need to cut down on that a lot.
Breakfast: 8 oz of plain, fat-free yogurt with fruit, flaxseed meal, almonds, and sweetened with stevia. Cup of unsweetened herbal tea.
Snack: Muffin or piece of bread & jam. Cup of unsweetened tea.
Lunch: Sandwich with whole multi-grain bread (gluten free for me), lunch meat, cheese, lettuce, and mustard. One piece of fruit like an apple or peach. Side of chips, carrots, or olives. Cup of unsweetened tea or Zevia soda.
Dinner: This is where the splurging happens. Take-out or restaurant for Mexican, Thai, Indian, pizza, burgers, sushi, etc. Always with vegetables either in the entrée or as a salad. Glass of alcohol.
It looks like you start the day good but slowly spiral downwards as they goes on...
Replace the muffin or piece of bread with a couple of bananas for energy, try getting an instant oats or waxy maize powder that you can drink, the carbohydrate uplift should replace the muffin.
Replace your sandwich, get rid of the unhealthy sauces, lunch meat, olives and cheese, a bowl of lentil and vegetables are all I have for lunch. As for dinner, you really need to get into the habit of not eating out and have something prepared, it takes ten minutes to cook a bowl of Quinoa which is a great substitute for potatoes, you also could try fish and use plenty of herbs to give it flavoring.
Well as for alcohol, you need to cut down on that a lot.
I was mostly posting to show a different form of "normal" food as someone requested. It represents a way for people to eat healthful foods without giving up everything they like. I weigh 105 pounds on a "fat" day, and my exercise consists mostly of house renovations like sanding woodwork and digging ditches. My husband weighs 145 pounds and bikes to work most days. We get take-out because I don't like cooking, especially after doing manual labor for 6-8 hours. Husband doesn't get home until 8:30, and he picks up food on his way home, swinging it from his bike handles.
The muffin I usually eat is Flax 4 Life. SOOOO tasty! http://flax4life.net/ The bread is gluten-free multi-grain. Bananas are the devil. They smell so nasty that I won't even allow them in the house. How is mustard an unhealthy sauce? The meat I use is organic and nitrate-free. How are olives bad? They're full of monounsaturated fat, which is good for you. http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=46 After digging ditches, cheese is a welcome addition to a meal. It sounds like you're trying to get me to go vegan and be a teetotaller. Not going to happen. Your diet works for you, but my metabolism and activity require more calories.
ETA: You did mention fish, so pescetarian rather than vegan.
Havent got a single idea about how off-road this topic have gotten yet, but i really want to answer the original question; about fat on guys. Personally i love big guys, as in broad/tall/big in a fat kind of way(?). NOT overweight as in unhealthy, but i think "soft" looking guys are so much more physically attractive than body builders. Of course personality is key, but if it follows with a few extra pounds im a happy girl
Ive actually been thinking about this the past few days, i thought it was relevant to this topic; if im really fit, as in a good physical shape, will it scare off the "chubby" guys?
The title of your post annoys me though, as it suggests that fat on guys matters less than on women. I have no idea about it, but i think that girls and guys have equally high demands for future partners.
Breakfast: 8 oz of plain, fat-free yogurt with fruit, flaxseed meal, almonds, and sweetened with stevia. Cup of unsweetened herbal tea.
Snack: Muffin or piece of bread & jam. Cup of unsweetened tea.
Lunch: Sandwich with whole multi-grain bread (gluten free for me), lunch meat, cheese, lettuce, and mustard. One piece of fruit like an apple or peach. Side of chips, carrots, or olives. Cup of unsweetened tea or Zevia soda.
Dinner: This is where the splurging happens. Take-out or restaurant for Mexican, Thai, Indian, pizza, burgers, sushi, etc. Always with vegetables either in the entrée or as a salad. Glass of alcohol.
It looks like you start the day good but slowly spiral downwards as they goes on...
Replace the muffin or piece of bread with a couple of bananas for energy, try getting an instant oats or waxy maize powder that you can drink, the carbohydrate uplift should replace the muffin.
Replace your sandwich, get rid of the unhealthy sauces, lunch meat, olives and cheese, a bowl of lentil and vegetables are all I have for lunch. As for dinner, you really need to get into the habit of not eating out and have something prepared, it takes ten minutes to cook a bowl of Quinoa which is a great substitute for potatoes, you also could try fish and use plenty of herbs to give it flavoring.
Well as for alcohol, you need to cut down on that a lot.
I was mostly posting to show a different form of "normal" food as someone requested. It represents a way for people to eat healthful foods without giving up everything they like. I weigh 105 pounds on a "fat" day, and my exercise consists mostly of house renovations like sanding woodwork and digging ditches. My husband weighs 145 pounds and bikes to work most days. We get take-out because I don't like cooking, especially after doing manual labor for 6-8 hours. Husband doesn't get home until 8:30, and he picks up food on his way home, swinging it from his bike handles.
The muffin I usually eat is Flax 4 Life. SOOOO tasty! The bread is gluten-free multi-grain. Bananas are the devil. They smell so nasty that I won't even allow them in the house. How is mustard an unhealthy sauce? The meat I use is organic and nitrate-free. How are olives bad? They're full of monounsaturated fat, which is good for you. After digging ditches, cheese is a welcome addition to a meal. It sounds like you're trying to get me to go vegan and be a teetotaller. Not going to happen. Your diet works for you, but my metabolism and activity require more calories.
ETA: You did mention fish, so pescetarian rather than vegan.
High protein, low fat is my diet, i live on fish, lentils, vegetables and tuna. Although that may seem mundane, i focus on muscle recovery, my veins are popping out all over and i train six times a week doing around a thousand repetitions per workout over many variations of exercises.
I tend to avoid anything with fats in, my partner tells me to eat nuts and said i need some healthy fats from nuts or meats but I fear i will lose my eight pack or lose performance. I'm very self conscious and aware so it may be more to do with my obsessive mindset and strive to achieve my goals.
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