can a 5' 6 guy still be attractive?

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It is absolutely true CynicalWaffle!

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Ideally, you would establish "alpha male" status by not only pointing out holes in other guys' assertions, but also show respect for the the ideas and opinions of women. Far too often, guys don't actually listen to women. Or, when they do, they discount their opinions.

For instance, how would a guy know whether Tom Cruise is attractive or not? Best I can do is read accounts of what women think of him. Or, I suppose I could make a deduction from the roles he plays in movies. In Top Gun he plays the hero who gets the girl. A big budget movie with fighter planes for the guys to watch.

NT's judge social attractiveness and status based on a 'social consensus'.

If other people treat you like your attractive, then new people will fall into the same behaviours.

Just like if others dismiss you, it becomes easier for new people to do the same.


So the key is to break that cycle with nonverbal communication cues and verbal techniques which communicate 'alpha' status

One thing which stood out to me is that your "exceptions" are all married. Rather than dating...

Personally, I have always rejected this social hierarchy stuff. It takes way too much thought, effort and skill (i.e. manipulation, deceit, etc.). It’s so much simpler to just be yourself. And, much more genuine.

And the 'social consensus', especially the womensphere's social consensus says that the woman should date a man taller than herself, this is mainly why many women feel awkward when they date a shorter man in public, this was even expressed by some women here on this board as well. So see, you have contradicted your previous point.

Google short male celebrities, actors, etc. That should answer your question.

I'm feeling hot just by the thought of hugging my 6'2 guy tomorrow.
Such a nice and big body that I can totally feel safe with and melt into. Damn

But I would have sure felt the same is he was inches shorter.

I believe we actually agree, but are coming to the same conclusion differently.

IMO the social hierarchy is inherent in all human interactions, but it doesn't mean that you have to be manipulative or deceiving to achieve high status.

In fact the easiest and most effective way is to display social confidence and emotional vulnerability - which in a nutshell is being willing to be yourself, and as you said, act in a completely genuine way.

This says 'I am who I am, and I accept that. If you accept that then great, if not I am OK with that'.
Says that you are grounded and comfortable in your own skin = high status.

I understand what you are saying, but I do not agree that I have contradicted myself - I will aim to clarify now.

It is true that many women do have a slight preference for dating men taller than themselves, but it sits far down the list of the 'social consensus's' priorities.

In other words, just because you are short doesn't mean you are going to have difficulty finding women to date. If you take care to communicate other attractive traits then this will override most women's desire for a taller man.

Taller = strong and capable (in a evolutionary sense). Communicate that you are strong and capable through socially observable confident and 'high status' behaviours and you will be achieving the same affect you would if you were 6"6.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_attractiveness

Women, on average, tend to be more attracted to men who have a relatively narrow waist, a V-shaped torso, and broad shoulders.

I'm actually lucky enough to have these attributes, even though I'm just 5' 2" tall. Because I do a lot of recreational gardening to stay in shape, I actually look good in shorts and tight fitting clothes. I can saw wood faster than those cute little electric chain saws.

You are succumbed into the myth that women aren't visual, you're wrong, women are very visual. Also many like Cafe feels safe with tall men, it is anecdotal but it's something you see a lot..

And I am talking this out of real experience, I am 5'3 myself last time I checked, and for some reasons I appear "big" in pictures, women react very favorably to my pics on dating sites and often assume I am tall, and if they even notice the height info they ask me "Are you really 5'3?", often their flirty tone dwindles.

And it's not just a slight preference, be just slightly shorter than the girl and it would be most probably a dealbreaker for her.
What's even more worrying when dating a taller girl is if she's feeling awkward about it, I have seen several accounts of women (even here on WP) how they felt awkward when dating a shorter guy, they sometimes accuse the guy of having a "chip on shoulder" but they often conclude their post about something like "I am happy with my current tall bf"or "I preferred if he was taller" - at the end you conclude that the awkwardness was coming from her side too.

When I have dated taller girls (very few), they have literally avoided a walk side by side, one girl (with whom the date mean went normally well) I recall was either walking faster or slower so that we're never side by side (she walks faster, I go little faster to catch up, then she slows down ... it was laughable lol), I had no idea what was going on only after analyzing it at home: she was certainly embarrassed by the height difference. With short girls none of that weird walk way happened.

I'm 5'10" and STILL get the "you're too short" from women who are 5'1" and under!

Hmmm, that's why I attract the significantly less educated .

Apparently, some non-assertive, shy, soft-spoken men who are shorter than their girlfriends can get laid, otherwise, I never would have been born.

Anyway......

I think it's great some of you guys are open to dating women who are taller than you. Mostly, I just run into men who would never consider going with taller women.