starkid wrote:
No. The first key component of "nice guys" is entitlement. They don't just want attention from womyn for being "nice," they feel entitled to it.
No, the problem with "Nice Guys" is that they lack the physiological traits men need to attract the women. They use niceness as a way to try to court women because their niceness, whether it's genuine or not, is literally all they have. We should pity these men, not ridicule them.
As for the whole "entitlement" issue, I thinks that's pretty irrelevant. For most men, happiness comes from women. People (both men and women) tend to think they're entitled to the things they need, whether they actually are or not. I mean, you could make a very sound philosophical argument that the starving people in Africa aren't "entitled" to food or help from the outside worrld because it's mostly they're own fault that they're in the situation they are (which it is), but you can't reasonably expect them to stop asking for them, or seeking them out, or getting angry and frustrated if they don't get them, can you?
starkid wrote:
The second key component is that they aren't actually nice; their "niceness" is, like I said, typically the bare minimum of human decency.
Some are, some are not. Again, as I explained before, it's not really relevant. All Nice Guys end the same way; bitter, disillusioned, jaded and alone. Whether their niceness was actually genuine or not doesn't matter.