28 Jun 2015, 5:21 am
Loveurself wrote:
Also it is much harder for women in general. Why? Because a lot of people don't seem to think for themselves anymore. Why do people need to look at charts to decide what others find attractive or stupid commercials and movies to decide what is acceptable regarding beauty/attractiveness and relationships?
Cultural norms is just one part of attractiveness, and one that I find quite irrelevant. There are other attributes like hair, symmetry and youth that are innate preferences in men.
Loveurself wrote:
Life is too short for that. I tend to march to my OWN drum. What I find sexy may be someone else's toad. Also why is it, that women are considered valuable goods between the ages of 18 and 29??? What?? So basically, based on those numbers, when I turn a certain age I should be either be married or dig my grave because our sexist society says so? 
Women are not just easy-bake ovens that are disposable when the baking is over... which does not stop at 29/30.
Women are not just easy-bake ovens that are disposable when the baking is over... which does not stop at 29/30.This has nothing to do with culture. It was human evolution that shaped men to seek for women with maximum reproductive output, and there is absolutely nothing you, feminists, or culture can do about that other than to accept it as a fact.
Besides, it's not between 18 and 29, it starts when girls gets fertile (at 12 or something) and levels-off at 30. Males attractivity ratings of females peak in their late teens, and it is independent of age of males judging attractivity.
28 Jun 2015, 5:39 am
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28 Jun 2015, 12:07 pm
^ For every crush you don't do, I'm gonna do 10! 
(or more, depends how many crushes you've had. 
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^ For every crush you don't do, I'm gonna do 10! (or more, depends how many crushes you've had. )
(or more, depends how many crushes you've had. )Quality is all that counts. You can have your quantity (10 times more) all you like.
Besides, I bet my crushes lasts 10 times longer than yours.
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28 Jun 2015, 11:42 pm
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Loveurself wrote:
Also it is much harder for women in general. Why? Because a lot of people don't seem to think for themselves anymore. Why do people need to look at charts to decide what others find attractive or stupid commercials and movies to decide what is acceptable regarding beauty/attractiveness and relationships?
Cultural norms is just one part of attractiveness, and one that I find quite irrelevant. There are other attributes like hair, symmetry and youth that are innate preferences in men.
Loveurself wrote:
Life is too short for that. I tend to march to my OWN drum. What I find sexy may be someone else's toad. Also why is it, that women are considered valuable goods between the ages of 18 and 29??? What?? So basically, based on those numbers, when I turn a certain age I should be either be married or dig my grave because our sexist society says so? Women are not just easy-bake ovens that are disposable when the baking is over... which does not stop at 29/30.
Women are not just easy-bake ovens that are disposable when the baking is over... which does not stop at 29/30.This has nothing to do with culture. It was human evolution that shaped men to seek for women with maximum reproductive output, and there is absolutely nothing you, feminists, or culture can do about that other than to accept it as a fact.
Besides, it's not between 18 and 29, it starts when girls gets fertile (at 12 or something) and levels-off at 30. Males attractivity ratings of females peak in their late teens, and it is independent of age of males judging attractivity.
My point was that women are more than physical, sexual, aesthetically pleasing, and youthful beings (which is only for a short time according to a society that's overall governed by men). Women are human beings and the physical form is just a container that houses the individual. Maybe that's why the divorce rate is so high.
it's a shame that "boys" who decide to marry, may have to wake up one day to someone over the age of 25.
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29 Jun 2015, 3:31 am
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Ok, Miss Idealism; who is looks-blind and only see the inside beauty; be honest now:
Would you date a guy who is a like much shorter than you for example? (even if you are too short and they don't exist).
Bolded is reflected in what we see in chart. You think yourself you are rare for caring about personality? Nope, you aren't
But of course... he has to be at a certain bar in looks.
It is so easy for people to sound ideal behind the screen but "But this" and "But that" often reflect the tip of the reality iceberg.
Like I said, what I find attractive may not be attractive to someone else. Someone considered "unattractive" may have an award winning personality that makes them physically attractive to me. Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's easy for people to judge others based on their looks, age, sex...it's all BS.
I get A...HOLES WHO ONLY APROACH ME TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THE "PRETTY" Girl. This whole thing is garbage. It is not easier for women who are considered attractive. This is because there are a bunch of AHs who only try to talk to them as a game/ego boost. I'm tired of it!! ! ! Like I said, I'd prefer an honest, caring, and genuine person rather than an A...H... Brad Pitt look alike. Some guys, will pretend to like women just to get something out of them and move on. Most of those AHs look for the "so called" hard to get ones/"attractive" to validate their pathetic existence.
Would you date a guy who is a like much shorter than you for example? (even if you are too short and they don't exist).
Loveurself wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Loveurself wrote:
Physical beauty fades, but attractiveness can last a lifetime. I may find a person's quirks attractive that may turn others off. Personality, is what I find most attractive. Of course, I need to be somewhat physically attractive to the person, but a person's uniqueness is what makes them stand above all the rest. I get told all the time, that I am attractive, pretty, beautiful,.....etc., by random people who don't know me.
Society says that we have a shelf life, meaning, after a certain age, we become obsolete "attractive" or not. I'd like to think that I'm much more than a so called pretty face that will eventually fade.
****Beauty is in the eye of the beholder****
Someone who may not be as physically attractive to someone else, could be someone I consider my soulmate. To me, it's about the full package.
Society says that we have a shelf life, meaning, after a certain age, we become obsolete "attractive" or not. I'd like to think that I'm much more than a so called pretty face that will eventually fade.
****Beauty is in the eye of the beholder****
Someone who may not be as physically attractive to someone else, could be someone I consider my soulmate. To me, it's about the full package.
Bolded is reflected in what we see in chart. You think yourself you are rare for caring about personality? Nope, you aren't
But of course... he has to be at a certain bar in looks.
It is so easy for people to sound ideal behind the screen but "But this" and "But that" often reflect the tip of the reality iceberg.
Like I said, what I find attractive may not be attractive to someone else. Someone considered "unattractive" may have an award winning personality that makes them physically attractive to me. Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's easy for people to judge others based on their looks, age, sex...it's all BS.
I get A...HOLES WHO ONLY APROACH ME TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THE "PRETTY" Girl. This whole thing is garbage. It is not easier for women who are considered attractive. This is because there are a bunch of AHs who only try to talk to them as a game/ego boost. I'm tired of it!! ! ! Like I said, I'd prefer an honest, caring, and genuine person rather than an A...H... Brad Pitt look alike. Some guys, will pretend to like women just to get something out of them and move on. Most of those AHs look for the "so called" hard to get ones/"attractive" to validate their pathetic existence.
I'm not saying that I don't find certain physical features attractive. I think Brad Pitt is HOT. I also think the guy from the movie Thor is HOT aka (yummy)! !! !! !! !! !! !! !! !
But looks fade so I need more than a pretty face to sustain a relationship. I like a guy with good character and someone who knows how to tell a good cheesy joke. And yes I perfer men taller than me, but again that is just one part of a package. And like I mentioned, a guy can be really good looking and be a real AH. What can I do with that?
29 Jun 2015, 7:26 am
Loveurself wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ok, Miss Idealism; who is looks-blind and only see the inside beauty; be honest now:
Would you date a guy who is a like much shorter than you for example? (even if you are too short and they don't exist).
Bolded is reflected in what we see in chart. You think yourself you are rare for caring about personality? Nope, you aren't
But of course... he has to be at a certain bar in looks.
It is so easy for people to sound ideal behind the screen but "But this" and "But that" often reflect the tip of the reality iceberg.
Like I said, what I find attractive may not be attractive to someone else. Someone considered "unattractive" may have an award winning personality that makes them physically attractive to me. Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's easy for people to judge others based on their looks, age, sex...it's all BS.
I get A...HOLES WHO ONLY APROACH ME TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THE "PRETTY" Girl. This whole thing is garbage. It is not easier for women who are considered attractive. This is because there are a bunch of AHs who only try to talk to them as a game/ego boost. I'm tired of it!! ! ! Like I said, I'd prefer an honest, caring, and genuine person rather than an A...H... Brad Pitt look alike. Some guys, will pretend to like women just to get something out of them and move on. Most of those AHs look for the "so called" hard to get ones/"attractive" to validate their pathetic existence.
Would you date a guy who is a like much shorter than you for example? (even if you are too short and they don't exist).
Loveurself wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Loveurself wrote:
Physical beauty fades, but attractiveness can last a lifetime. I may find a person's quirks attractive that may turn others off. Personality, is what I find most attractive. Of course, I need to be somewhat physically attractive to the person, but a person's uniqueness is what makes them stand above all the rest. I get told all the time, that I am attractive, pretty, beautiful,.....etc., by random people who don't know me.
Society says that we have a shelf life, meaning, after a certain age, we become obsolete "attractive" or not. I'd like to think that I'm much more than a so called pretty face that will eventually fade.
****Beauty is in the eye of the beholder****
Someone who may not be as physically attractive to someone else, could be someone I consider my soulmate. To me, it's about the full package.
Society says that we have a shelf life, meaning, after a certain age, we become obsolete "attractive" or not. I'd like to think that I'm much more than a so called pretty face that will eventually fade.
****Beauty is in the eye of the beholder****
Someone who may not be as physically attractive to someone else, could be someone I consider my soulmate. To me, it's about the full package.
Bolded is reflected in what we see in chart. You think yourself you are rare for caring about personality? Nope, you aren't
But of course... he has to be at a certain bar in looks.
It is so easy for people to sound ideal behind the screen but "But this" and "But that" often reflect the tip of the reality iceberg.
Like I said, what I find attractive may not be attractive to someone else. Someone considered "unattractive" may have an award winning personality that makes them physically attractive to me. Again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. It's easy for people to judge others based on their looks, age, sex...it's all BS.
I get A...HOLES WHO ONLY APROACH ME TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET THE "PRETTY" Girl. This whole thing is garbage. It is not easier for women who are considered attractive. This is because there are a bunch of AHs who only try to talk to them as a game/ego boost. I'm tired of it!! ! ! Like I said, I'd prefer an honest, caring, and genuine person rather than an A...H... Brad Pitt look alike. Some guys, will pretend to like women just to get something out of them and move on. Most of those AHs look for the "so called" hard to get ones/"attractive" to validate their pathetic existence.
I'm not saying that I don't find certain physical features attractive. I think Brad Pitt is HOT. I also think the guy from the movie Thor is HOT aka (yummy)! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
But looks fade so I need more than a pretty face to sustain a relationship. I like a guy with good character and someone who knows how to tell a good cheesy joke. And yes I perfer men taller than me, but again that is just one part of a package. And like I mentioned, a guy can be really good looking and be a real AH. What can I do with that?
This is all an example of Face-of Boo's thread starting point that "The More Attractive-Looking Woman Is The Pickier". You are attractive (per embedded anecdotes about getting hit on) and you are pickier than unattractive women. Unattractive women (or women who are plain rather than being ugly or pretty) who are serious about finding a relationship can't afford to insist on both looks and personality. They'll eagerly take the attractive a....hole you turned down because they know the attractive guy with an awesome personality will pass them by in favor of you. They'll eagerly take the unattractive guy with a good personality that you turned down because he didn't meet your minimum var of attractiveness. They may go for the unattractive guy with the terrible personality too.
You are attractive. And pickier than women who aren't unless they are willing to forego a relationship, or keep looking for a relationship with a man out of their league (but in yours) eternally.
You prefer taller men with great personalities. You can afford that pickiness. Maybe an overweight woman does too. Maybe a short man still prefers thin women. But since the short man and the overweight woman both have strikes against them, they are more likely to wind up with each other, as Face-of-Boo also observed. If they have compatible personalities and neither is an a.....hole, this could be a very happy relationship, looks do fade over time as I well know (middle aged). Both still maintain minimum bars because he is just short, not having dwarfism (would Peter Dinklage have such an attractive wife if he weren't a TV star with a very handsome face?) She is just overweight, not need-a-scooter obese.
And you are attractive and picky, just like the thread says.
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29 Jun 2015, 8:02 am
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To me, that notion that "beauty is in the eye of the behold" is only SOMEWHAT true in the case of men. See, men's sexual prefferences are shaped in no small part by their experiences during their formative years. I for instance, have a thing for somewhat overweight women (not morbidly obese). Looking back, I now believe this is because during my childhood years I had a great friendship with a girl who was overweight herself.
As far as women are concerned, that notion simply doesn't apply. Women virtually all want the same type of man, regardless of their background, their experiences during childhood, or anything else.
As far as women are concerned, that notion simply doesn't apply. Women virtually all want the same type of man, regardless of their background, their experiences during childhood, or anything else.
I only find that what men like in term of looks are more diversified than what women like.
Loveyourself is a fine example who likes the looks of males who are liked by the vast majority of her gender.
Generally speaking, and that's not an unfair generalization because I see it every time in online and real life discussions, women hate to sound shallow and often they feel the need to prove they are less superficial and deeper than men in mate selection - but when you corner them with concrete questions they turn out they aren't - at all.
You so often hear women saying things like "as a woman, I care about personality..etc" to emphasize their belief how their gender is less superficial.
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30 Jun 2015, 1:20 am
Amity wrote:
Loveurself wrote:
What I find sexy may be someone else's toad.
I agree with this, looks are just one aspect of attractiveness. Long term personality is much more important, jeez who wants to live with an externally beautiful but internally vapid person.
(Again...again... ladies trying typically to sound deep.....)
Look, no one wants a vapid person, but I bet you wouldn't want a face you perceive hideous smothering your face with kisses on a first date or nth date, ...lol I bet you wouldn't go out with him in the first place, so he wouldn't have the chance to make you know his personality well.
Loveurself wrote:
What I find sexy may be someone else's toad.
Are Brad Pitt and the Thor guy among those toads? you think you are so *different* for thinking they're hot and going yummy over them?
Also, the fact that you hold a such grudge against handsome a$$holes only indicate that you are attracted to good looks, otherwise you wouldn't have been charmed and fooled in the first place.
30 Jun 2015, 3:23 am
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Amity wrote:
Loveurself wrote:
What I find sexy may be someone else's toad.
I agree with this, looks are just one aspect of attractiveness. Long term personality is much more important, jeez who wants to live with an externally beautiful but internally vapid person.
(Again...again... ladies trying typically to sound deep.....)
Look, no one wants a vapid person, but I bet you wouldn't want a face you perceive hideous smothering your face with kisses on a first date or nth date, ...lol I bet you wouldn't go out with him in the first place, so he wouldn't have the chance to make you know his personality well.
LOL, anyone that smothered me with kisses, would not last very long in a dating arrangement with me, funny imagery though.
Yup, I agree with what I quoted.
I don’t have a standard look that I find attractive in men; but (
) there are standard personal qualities which I do find attractive.I’m not a regular person, a relationship with a beautiful man who has never had to work on his personality, simply put, would not last long, because although I look the part, I come with... non typical baggage. So, I guess that my priorities are different, what I find physically attractive could indeed be someone else's toad!
Women, imo, are more likely to have options when it comes to being in a relationship where their needs are met, I don't believe that they have more options based on appearance alone.
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30 Jun 2015, 3:32 am
Amity wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Amity wrote:
Loveurself wrote:
What I find sexy may be someone else's toad.
I agree with this, looks are just one aspect of attractiveness. Long term personality is much more important, jeez who wants to live with an externally beautiful but internally vapid person.
(Again...again... ladies trying typically to sound deep.....)
Look, no one wants a vapid person, but I bet you wouldn't want a face you perceive hideous smothering your face with kisses on a first date or nth date, ...lol I bet you wouldn't go out with him in the first place, so he wouldn't have the chance to make you know his personality well.
LOL, anyone that smothered me with kisses, would not last very long in a dating arrangement with me, funny imagery though.
Yup, I agree with what I quoted.
I don’t have a standard look that I find attractive in men; but (
) there are standard personal qualities which I do find attractive.I’m not a regular person, a relationship with a beautiful man who has never had to work on his personality, simply put, would not last long, because although I look the part, I come with... non typical baggage. So, I guess that my priorities are different, what I find physically attractive could indeed be someone else's toad!
Women, imo, are more likely to have options when it comes to being in a relationship where their needs are met, I don't believe that they have more options based on appearance alone.
Consent smothering, I meant.
You are exactly like loveurself; self-proclaimed hopeless romantic, ideal and "unique".
Oh please.... I am smarter than that.
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Women, imo, are more likely to have options when it comes to being in a relationship where their needs are met, I don't believe that they have more options based on appearance alone.
And like Janissy has explained, an attractive woman has more options than the unattractive ones ( when it comes to looks and personality alike), which is all the thread about really.
Yet, you ladies whenever you hear a guy talks about the ladies' physical preferences and how a woman's looks affect her attitude and her options, you typically go like "oh..but I care more about PERSONALITY! I don't care much about looks**, I am not like other women" (I hear this last part a lot, every one claims she's not like other women)
Pffff, the thread is not about looks vs personality preference.**Terms and conditions may apply.
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