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16 Aug 2015, 11:09 pm

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Getting a woman should be the least of your worries. With a few cosmetic tricks, its not insurmountable. Finding someone who can relate with you is the tricky bit and if you arent aware of this can get you into a right royal mess of a life.


don't get the first part. but understand the need to find someone who gets you.



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16 Aug 2015, 11:13 pm

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Getting a woman should be the least of your worries. With a few cosmetic tricks, its not insurmountable. Finding someone who can relate with you is the tricky bit and if you arent aware of this can get you into a right royal mess of a life.


don't get the first part. but understand the need to find someone who gets you.


We live in a world people by NTs and thus the chances we will connect with an NT are high. Moving in that space camouflaged is easy as well if you can learn how to play the game as it is basically a game to NTs. Living with an NT partner is another story however.



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16 Aug 2015, 11:31 pm

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trayder wrote:
Getting a woman should be the least of your worries. With a few cosmetic tricks, its not insurmountable. Finding someone who can relate with you is the tricky bit and if you arent aware of this can get you into a right royal mess of a life.


don't get the first part. but understand the need to find someone who gets you.


We live in a world people by NTs and thus the chances we will connect with an NT are high. Moving in that space camouflaged is easy as well if you can learn how to play the game as it is basically a game to NTs. Living with an NT partner is another story however.


some nts are ok. most aspies are with nts and lots seem happy.



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16 Aug 2015, 11:43 pm

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Getting a woman should be the least of your worries. With a few cosmetic tricks, its not insurmountable. Finding someone who can relate with you is the tricky bit and if you arent aware of this can get you into a right royal mess of a life.


don't get the first part. but understand the need to find someone who gets you.


We live in a world people by NTs and thus the chances we will connect with an NT are high. Moving in that space camouflaged is easy as well if you can learn how to play the game as it is basically a game to NTs. Living with an NT partner is another story however.


some nts are ok. most aspies are with nts and lots seem happy.


Thats something I have to work through. Dating has never been an issue with me...but the inordinate self destructive emotionalism of NT partners has always been a source of conflict for me.



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17 Aug 2015, 12:03 am

A lot of girls that complain that guys expect too much and shouldn't expect sex, are the same ones that will lead a guy on. If you have no interest in a guy, there is no reason you should let him buy you dinner, or spend money on you.



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17 Aug 2015, 1:19 am

Put your foot down, be the boss, take charge and stand up for yourself and women will respect you and want you more!They do their crap to test you and want you to stand up and be a man, so be a man! If you dont they will see you as a doormat and walk all over you stand up, be firm and proud and dont be afraid to say what she does you dont like!


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17 Aug 2015, 1:53 am

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Put your foot down, be the boss, take charge and stand up for yourself and women will respect you and want you more!They do their crap to test you and want you to stand up and be a man, so be a man! If you dont they will see you as a doormat and walk all over you stand up, be firm and proud and dont be afraid to say what she does you dont like!


I dont agree. Women who live in their emotions and that essentially captures NT women want conformity...you may the boss but you are still a conforming boss....its almost impossible being true to yourself in many relationships which is why it pays to make sure that any partnership is founded on mature notions and not the stuff that makes myths.



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17 Aug 2015, 2:02 am

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Thats something I have to work through. Dating has never been an issue with me...but the inordinate self destructive emotionalism of NT partners has always been a source of conflict for me.


inordinate self destructive emotionalism

explain this I've never heard of that.



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17 Aug 2015, 2:22 am

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Thats something I have to work through. Dating has never been an issue with me...but the inordinate self destructive emotionalism of NT partners has always been a source of conflict for me.


inordinate self destructive emotionalism

explain this I've never heard of that.


Ill give you an example. In one of my relationships, there was a history of non emotional abuse by the father. However, the wall of denial and her identification with her abuser defied logic to the point where I ended up bearing her burden of anger which should have been directed at her father.

If I learnt anything its that I should have paid heed to my inner alarm bells at the outset. Instead I went along, playing to the myths that drive relationships in NT society. I tend to largely disregard NT values unless they accord with my notion of cause and effect....I have had too many run ins to not be the wiser.

I cant imagine what high subjectivity feels like. However, I do not want to continue to suffer unduly because of it.



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17 Aug 2015, 2:22 am

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Put your foot down, be the boss, take charge and stand up for yourself and women will respect you and want you more!They do their crap to test you and want you to stand up and be a man, so be a man! If you dont they will see you as a doormat and walk all over you stand up, be firm and proud and dont be afraid to say what she does you dont like!


I dont agree. Women who live in their emotions and that essentially captures NT women want conformity...you may the boss but you are still a conforming boss....its almost impossible being true to yourself in many relationships which is why it pays to make sure that any partnership is founded on mature notions and not the stuff that makes myths.
They dont want you to be yourself they want you to change yourself for them to the point you dont know who you are anymore then they will want to control you, they dont care if you are happy or want you to be happy they just want to be happy at the expense of your happyness!


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17 Aug 2015, 2:33 am

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Put your foot down, be the boss, take charge and stand up for yourself and women will respect you and want you more!They do their crap to test you and want you to stand up and be a man, so be a man! If you dont they will see you as a doormat and walk all over you stand up, be firm and proud and dont be afraid to say what she does you dont like!


I dont agree. Women who live in their emotions and that essentially captures NT women want conformity...you may the boss but you are still a conforming boss....its almost impossible being true to yourself in many relationships which is why it pays to make sure that any partnership is founded on mature notions and not the stuff that makes myths.
They dont want you to be yourself they want you to change yourself for them to the point you dont know who you are anymore then they will want to control you, they dont care if you are happy or want you to be happy they just want to be happy at the expense of your happyness!


Yes. They simply cannot relate to the fact that you find keeping up with the Joneses for example tediously pointless and keep, trying to make you into something you cannot be. If they instead tolerated us as we them, life could be mutually beneficial.



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17 Aug 2015, 2:50 am

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A lot of girls that complain that guys expect too much and shouldn't expect sex, are the same ones that will lead a guy on. If you have no interest in a guy, there is no reason you should let him buy you dinner, or spend money on you.

I agree. If I'm not interested in a girl, I would never accept an invite from her for a romantic date. Paying isn't a good indicator for me because I prefer liberal people.



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17 Aug 2015, 3:33 am

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[imghttp://i.imgur.com/cIMqeYs.gif[/img] @ all of you forgetting about gamma, delta, epsilon etc.

LOL just kidding ;-)


Gamma is radioactive and self destructive.



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17 Aug 2015, 3:34 am

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It's important to remember that every female is different. Everyone has their own "type". Yes, there are some women who just want a stinking rich sugar daddy or a wall-to-wall-muscles-washboard-abs hunk but those kinds of women are not good to be in relationships with because they don't love you as a person, they just want you for your "good bits". There are women who do like "beta males", but there's much more to loving someone than that, it's just another stupid "stereotype". No matter what, both people in a relationship should love the other person for who they are. If not, they shouldn't even bother with each other.


No, that's nonsense...all us females are exactly the same regardless of neurotype and have the exact same taste in guys, want the exact same things and there is no variation among it period. lol, joking but it would seem some people believe that.


According to my tinder experiments, women within the same culture are clones :P.

The variation is extremely little.



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17 Aug 2015, 3:45 am

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I'm an Omega Man myself.....if you don't like it, make my day!

mee too! :alien: us omegas oughta stick together :bounce: :bounce:



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17 Aug 2015, 3:56 am

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It doesn't mention Beta anywhere, it only compares Alpha and Omega.

Beta is a friend of Alpha. He is second in command, if Alpha doesn't want/can do something Beta gets it. Beta position is not a bad one at all. Just one step away from the leading position and he can even influence Alpha. Women who can't get Alpha go for Beta.

Omega is the bottom of hierarchy, everyone is over him and he is considered nothing by most of society. Forever bullied. No woman wants Omega even if Alpha and Beta are unavailable.



Quoted for truth.

Alpha/Beta/Omega EXISTS among humans, yes, we are the most complex primates, but this hierarchy certainly exists in men/boys.

High School is where you see it the most, if some of you never saw it then I tell you: you were living under a rock.


I have seen recently in Turkey in the pub outing, we were three guys, two girls. One of the guys (not me) was clearly interested in one of the girls.

Both girls were interested in the tallest one among us, has a girlfriend in Lebanon and they both know it, they were being physically in proximity all the time during dancing, the Czech guy is single and the 2nd in height- he's very successful in career, but he is very thin and has a very boyish face, the girl he was trying to approach clearly shunned him, she even whispered the 'Alpha' how she is not interested in him. The 'Alpha' later in the taxi apologized to the Czech guy,(who was clearly an Omega in this group) that he didn't cockblock him and he told him what the girl said.

As for me, I was totally indifferent, one of the girls (the shorter one, I could clearly see that tall girl didn't like that much) whispered me many times during the night, and she did dance with me. And yes, I was associated with the "Alpha" because we work both in same company.
Overall, she had been very friendly to me, but not as much as with the 'Alpha' guy. I guess I was 'Beta' in this instance.

So here you go, Alpha, Beta, Omega.