It sucks how a pretty girl can date even if she's boring..

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12 Nov 2015, 6:37 am

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well you hardly ever hear of women being 25+ or 30+ years of age and never had a boyfriend, still a virgin, meanwhile it's not uncommon to hear of it the other way around



I am close to 25 and fit that criteria. . .



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12 Nov 2015, 8:41 am

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well you hardly ever hear of women being 25+ or 30+ years of age and never had a boyfriend, still a virgin, meanwhile it's not uncommon to hear of it the other way around


In the US, older male virgins are very rare! <5% of males over 25, <2% of males over 30% and <0.2% of males over 35-40 are virgins. Same % for late in life female virgins.

Late in life virgins are hen's teeth! The census, however, doesn't collect data on whether someone's been in a relationship.



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12 Nov 2015, 6:25 pm

Psycho trolls who created hundreds of accounts are hen's teeth, maybe 0.01% of Americans.



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12 Nov 2015, 10:52 pm

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well you hardly ever hear of women being 25+ or 30+ years of age and never had a boyfriend, still a virgin, meanwhile it's not uncommon to hear of it the other way around


That's probably because as a man you don't have a large circle of female friends so don't know any women well enough to know their circumstances. I know a few women in those exact circumstances. I don't think they will ever find anyone. 3 of these women are over 40 and the rest I know are in their late 20s. You can't say women don't have this problem too. It's not true.

And now for the excuses. Ah but they're too picky, they're too ugly blah blah blah


I've known girls who have always been singles, and most probably still totally virgins; my older sister who's 39 is one but I suspect she's asexual at times (by "totally virgins" here I mean they never had any intimate contact with a male, such as kissing and making out; many girls entering relationships remain virgin, pre-marital sex is still not the norm among many here especially among the Muslim girls; there's even a term for which translates to: “no one's kissed her mouth but her mother”).[/quote]

well I've seen many different forums on different sites online, and the site reddit, I see way more posts from guys, men who are 25+ years of age, or 30+ years of age who have never had a girlfriend and still a virgin, whenever I see a post from a woman who has never had a boyfriend and is a virgin, she is usually under the age of 25.



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12 Nov 2015, 11:07 pm

WantToHaveALife wrote:
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well you hardly ever hear of women being 25+ or 30+ years of age and never had a boyfriend, still a virgin, meanwhile it's not uncommon to hear of it the other way around


That's probably because as a man you don't have a large circle of female friends so don't know any women well enough to know their circumstances. I know a few women in those exact circumstances. I don't think they will ever find anyone. 3 of these women are over 40 and the rest I know are in their late 20s. You can't say women don't have this problem too. It's not true.

And now for the excuses. Ah but they're too picky, they're too ugly blah blah blah


I've known girls who have always been singles, and most probably still totally virgins; my older sister who's 39 is one but I suspect she's asexual at times (by "totally virgins" here I mean they never had any intimate contact with a male, such as kissing and making out; many girls entering relationships remain virgin, pre-marital sex is still not the norm among many here especially among the Muslim girls; there's even a term for which translates to: “no one's kissed her mouth but her mother”).


well I've seen many different forums on different sites online, and the site reddit, I see way more posts from guys, men who are 25+ years of age, or 30+ years of age who have never had a girlfriend and still a virgin, whenever I see a post from a woman who has never had a boyfriend and is a virgin, she is usually under the age of 25.[/quote]

Reddit is much more reliable than a large-scale census... really?

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13 Nov 2015, 1:34 am

Boring minds think alike. Even in relationships.


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13 Nov 2015, 12:39 pm

MissKlemi wrote:
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well you hardly ever hear of women being 25+ or 30+ years of age and never had a boyfriend, still a virgin, meanwhile it's not uncommon to hear of it the other way around


That's probably because as a man you don't have a large circle of female friends so don't know any women well enough to know their circumstances. I know a few women in those exact circumstances. I don't think they will ever find anyone. 3 of these women are over 40 and the rest I know are in their late 20s. You can't say women don't have this problem too. It's not true.

And now for the excuses. Ah but they're too picky, they're too ugly blah blah blah


I've known girls who have always been singles, and most probably still totally virgins; my older sister who's 39 is one but I suspect she's asexual at times (by "totally virgins" here I mean they never had any intimate contact with a male, such as kissing and making out; many girls entering relationships remain virgin, pre-marital sex is still not the norm among many here especially among the Muslim girls; there's even a term for which translates to: “no one's kissed her mouth but her mother”).


well I've seen many different forums on different sites online, and the site reddit, I see way more posts from guys, men who are 25+ years of age, or 30+ years of age who have never had a girlfriend and still a virgin, whenever I see a post from a woman who has never had a boyfriend and is a virgin, she is usually under the age of 25.


Reddit is much more reliable than a large-scale census... really?

Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, keep telling yourself. A successful external reality depends on an internal vision left intact, I guess.[/quote]

well its just a guess of mine, maybe women are less vocal about it than men are



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13 Nov 2015, 3:09 pm

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Ummmm, no shortage of dates in my 20s dude. Wasn't complaining about lack of 'em.


What proportion resulted from you asking someone out vs someone asking you out?



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13 Nov 2015, 4:06 pm

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Girls definitely DO face rejection. At least at my age, there's always been a strong prejudice against women who ask out men, so we found other ways to express interest in lads. Having your flirting and attention ignored is rejection, too. Even if we were completely passive waiting for the approach (which isn't the way it actually works), not being asked by guys you are interested in is also rejection.

If these 'other ways' rely on non-verbal communication or 'hints' then they are only likely to be recognised by NT guys.
In the case of guys on the autistic spectrum it's likely to be a case of either tell them directly you'd like them to ask you out or ask them out yourself.
Personally I've never cared much for ANY sexist stereotypes and attitudes.



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13 Nov 2015, 4:08 pm

The guys boring pretty girls date, don't seem very interesting to me.


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13 Nov 2015, 4:16 pm

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Its easy to say us aspie males are entitled misogynist when you can just shake your ass and get laid by anyone you want.


I never seem to have learned that particular ability...granted I am sure in some places I could do that in some places and have offers to get laid, but those wouldn't be guys I want. Even before I had a boyfriend that wouldn't have been appealing.


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13 Nov 2015, 4:19 pm

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it sucks that gender roles defines what a girl can do and cannot do. It's ok for a guy to ask out a girl, but not ok for a girl to ask out a guy, then she is called out names like "a slut". A guy, is just being a guy.

The same gender roles just as much define what a guy can and cannot do.
It's very much not OK for a guy to be asked out by a girl. A guy trying to hint, to women, that he's interested in them might be assumed to be gay. But more likely ignored or assumed to be asexual. (The latter especially if he has ANY form of disability.)



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13 Nov 2015, 4:27 pm

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yup, if theres anything I've observed, being spoiled, coddled, not given any or enough responsibility by your parents growing up has a worse effect on guys than it does on girls


How so? it seems to make girls gravitate towards guys that might treat them similarly...hence the whole issue of women having ridiculous expectations that guys have their own house, a car that's been paid off, a well paying job and the ability to take care of their every desire no matter what. Not sure that is any better than how it would effect most guys.


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13 Nov 2015, 4:32 pm

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And being perfectly frank here, being single is better than being used and abused. Not sure why we need so many banal "that feel when no gf" threads.


That's a bit like saying going hungry is better than eating poisoned food.

A very good analogy.



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13 Nov 2015, 4:35 pm

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13 Nov 2015, 4:37 pm

WantToHaveALife wrote:
well you hardly ever hear of women being 25+ or 30+ years of age and never had a boyfriend, still a virgin, meanwhile it's not uncommon to hear of it the other way around


Actually it is kind of uncommon for both to reach those ages having remained single and still a virgin. I think it is probably more common with people on the spectrum especially since our disorder makes it more difficult to interact with people. But over-all not necessarily.

I didn't have sex till I was 19...and it sucked the first time, and I have heard many people say the same or at least that it was akward. So not sure why people think so many people are focused on if someone's lost their virginity or not. Not to mention no one is going to know if you are a virgin or not unless you tell them...and if you get far enough with a women to have sex she's probably not going to throw you out because you haven't had sex with other women.

I mean IRL I never hear any talk of virginity, I hear plenty of talk about sex...but it would seem most people don't seem to care about that.


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