article on the difference between wanting and entitlement
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She feels so entitled to her 'right' of bitchy behavior :p.
I don't think my behavior's bitchy but, hey, "she's not a people person" (and I'm soooo not, kind of inevitable if you're an Aspie) is something I used to get told all.the.time as a kid!
You are worse than "not a people person", you are a "bully person".
Your sense of entitlement of being a bitchy bully disgusts me, your AS is no excuse.
She feels so entitled to her 'right' of bitchy behavior :p.
I don't think my behavior's bitchy but, hey, "she's not a people person" (and I'm soooo not, kind of inevitable if you're an Aspie) is something I used to get told all.the.time as a kid!
I will have to alert the cockroaches, the lungfish and the tardigrades of their new competition.
Hilarious.
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Most everyones feels entitled to another heart, because the heart is not made to be content with itself (though it can be made so through vigorous philosophical training).
Priests, nuns, monks, etc are made content with themselves through philosophy.
Most people can't live like that however, so they feel entitled to another who might fulfill the heart, it's perfectly reasonable and natural, it isn't bad or good, it just is, like thirst, hunger, etc...
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She is a hundred times over again banned poster, this stuff is her special interest or something
it's kind of sad since she always tries to convince us that she is so happy with her life when clearly that is not the case because no happy person would do what she does. Does anybody believe her? Post some pics; yourself, boyfriends, masters degree, something, are you even a woman? Prove it. Lot of weird no-life trolls on the internet.
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Feminists want equality. The criteria by which an individual woman chooses to date (or not date) an individual man varies from individual woman to individual woman (and individual man to individual man).
You just sound pissed and aggrieved that to date no individual woman has been willing to date you ... also unrelated to feminism in any way, shape or form.
If you want a relationship and haven't found one through your existing social network or online, getting a hobby to expand your social network and perhaps find a relationship through the power of "weak ties" (a la Malcolm Gladwell) seems like a pretty solid strategy. And, yes, it involves being smart/funny/interesting/whatever enough that someone likes you enough to want to spend time with you and maybe date you. It's not like you're entitled to a relationship for existing nor is it enough to tick boxes (hygienic, stylish, employed) and expect that to magically throw girls at your feet!
It seems a lot of feminists just want all the rights for themselves....I mean I have heard outright hate of the male sex coming from feminists as if they think the world would do better if women were the only sex. I think feminism just allows the breeding ground for that kind of extremist thinking anymore....especially given that women do have equal rights. Why not actually look at the big picture and improve issues that face both males and females rather than trying to twist everything into being specifically designed to 'keep women down'...feminism has become stagnant.
And who the hell said anything about expecting girls to magically be thrown at their feet, appears you are also putting words in peoples mouths.....is that what they teach you at feminism university?
And having sex is nothing like playing music with people or other typical social activities...so expecting people to see it that way is ridiculous.
I'm feminist and I don't think this. Who are these damn feminists that people keep talking about but I never encounter?
Honestly, if you aren't for EQUAL RIGHTS (e.g: men can vote women can vote because their opinions are equally as important in a functioning society, men can work and women can work and they should be paid exactly the same amount if they have the same job descriptions and put in the same hours with the same results. If a woman has a better rating or score in her apprails or reviews for work but gets paid significantly less than all her male peers, that's BS etc.etc. Women shouldn't have to face stigma or sexual harassment for wanting to do STEM field things etc.)
if you aren't for the equal rights of all genders then you're sexist plain and simple. It's not a hard concept.
And these so-called feminists AREN'T f*****g FEMINIST if they are not for equal rights, they are simply being inflammatory.
Also, you're very wrong in saying women and men are equal, especially in the workplace. The glass-ceiling in management is very much alive. I've seen enough evaluations and pay rolls when I have to file or prepare documents... to know for a fact that women that work for years or decades get paid 10s of thousands of dollars less (because status quo) then their male counter parts for a job that they were just rated as doing better.
With little raises and much less pay for better work.
Have you ever been at a meeting where women are literally completely bipassed and ignored along with their ideas until the SAME EXACT WORDS come out of a male-mouth and suddenly everyone is all ears.
I mean verbatim the SAME plan or words. The only difference being gender.
Or for example, the same exact resume sent to employers with the ONLY difference being the gendered name of the candidate and the call-back rate being significantly less for female applicants or starting salary.

Some of the feminists I speak of have posted on this very board, and I get some of this from blogs/articles written by feminists that I have the misfortune of seeing. And I am for equal rights, that is the whole reason why I take issue with modern feminism, because it seems very one sided....seems like they want all the rights and to make things more difficult for males like as some sort of weird pay-back, too me that is not moving forward or fighting to ensure everyone really has equal rights.
And of course women shouldn't be sexually harassed, but I think there is a difference between sexual harassment and a guy looking at a women...yet I have heard guys get in trouble for that because the women decided it was a 'sexual' look. Well I don't know if guy looked at me and I thought they thought I was 'hot' I wouldn't care unless they try and force them-self on me........to me it would be more a compliment that they think I look good, than a sexual harassment insult.
Also by men and women being equal is there aren't rights that men have that are denied to women by law anymore...that doesn't mean there aren't still problems in society related to women. But how would those problems get solved when people championing themselves as feminists seem to do everything they can to alienate males and any females that aren't in your face feminists. I don't know a lot about the pay difference thing, and am not working so haven't really been exposed....but is there a law that states women should make less? or is this something companies are just doing...I suppose they could pass a law ensuring males and females make the same for the same jobs if companies won't knock that off.
I think women should have the same 'duties' as males to....I mean where are all the feminists for equal rights pushing for females to have to sign up for selective service for the military like men have to? Also it seems harder for a male to be taken serious about if he's been raped or sexually harassed...than it is for a female. If feminists are for equality for everyone why don't they ever address things like this?
I guess another big question I have if the sort of feminists I speak of aren't real feminists, where are all the real feminists calling them out for their BS and attempts at alienating males and even other females and hurting the cause? Seems like they are fine to have people like that as part of their movement...and feel saying 'well we aren't all like that' magically fixes it.
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No, you are not, cause I'm having trouble finding the problem myself.
She's a troll she starts out saying what appears to be reasonable talk, maybe even make a decent point or two...but then its not long before she starts personally attacking people and putting them down. That is what the problem is.
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Nope, I don't believe a word she's saying. No remotely sane person with a happy relationship, social and professional life would have the time, motivation or drive to do this. I've said it before: it's a fascinating phenomenon because all I can see is a stubborn yet very boring and not particularly intelligent troll and I can't figure for the life of me why so many people here take "her" seriously and give her the attention she's feeding of

I mean, we're talking about it right now and I wouldn't have even noticed her or her posts if people didn't make such fuss about her

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No, you are not, cause I'm having trouble finding the problem myself.
She's a troll she starts out saying what appears to be reasonable talk, maybe even make a decent point or two...but then its not long before she starts personally attacking people and putting them down. That is what the problem is.
Yeah I was super confused because everyone suddenly became condescending and hostile

So far what had been said is not really out of bounds. So I was lost there.
i think what is confusing lies in the subtleties in the expression of the desire. when someone has an entitled attitude it becomes clear in their phrasing, because they don't just want it, they literally believe that they deserve to have it because of their decidedly appealing qualities. with this mindset, if they don't have it, then it must be the fault of those people for not wanting to be with what supposedly appeals to them. they play this mind trick to twist the situation around and explain to themselves that it is not their fault through imposing their own ideas about what makes a person desirable into the minds of the people who live inside their own head. this illusion also gives them a reason to be angry at others and even consider them stupid for not realizing what they really want or need. feeling entitled to other people's thoughts, decisions, and lives goes way beyond simply wanting to be with other people, and is way different than trying to figure out what certain people find appealing and how to make those connections with an attitude of respect for other sentient individuals.
I made an extreme example for clarity's sake, but in most cases of entitlement it is much more minute, which makes it even more confusing.
She keeps insisting that any man who complains of not finding a girlfriend is "entitled". Just comes across as having zero compassion for anyone that isn't her gender. Also, you aren't aware of what she's said in previous incarnations under different usernames.
With little raises and much less pay for better work.
Have you ever been at a meeting where women are literally completely bipassed and ignored along with their ideas until the SAME EXACT WORDS come out of a male-mouth and suddenly everyone is all ears.
I mean verbatim the SAME plan or words. The only difference being gender.
Or for example, the same exact resume sent to employers with the ONLY difference being the gendered name of the candidate and the call-back rate being significantly less for female applicants or starting salary.

I agree that the "glass ceiling" is wrong. I just get irked when feminists put their supposed oppression above everyone else's. It's like a f*****g competition to them. They are half the population and have a loud voice. Other smaller oppressed groups don't. Feminists don't seem to give a s**t about the "glass floor". You know, mentally ill people who fall through the floor of our sh***y selfish capitalist society and wind up on the street or offing themselves. That would mostly be men. Women who hit the "glass ceiling" are at least well off enough that they aren't really suffering. A lot of feminists seem like privileged people who make up crap to be incensed about. A guy holds a door for them... "%&$&#&$% you!". First world non-problems sums it up.
No, you are not, cause I'm having trouble finding the problem myself.
She's a troll she starts out saying what appears to be reasonable talk, maybe even make a decent point or two...but then its not long before she starts personally attacking people and putting them down. That is what the problem is.
Yeah I was super confused because everyone suddenly became condescending and hostile

So far what had been said is not really out of bounds. So I was lost there.
In the past she posted things like...
"Statistics say 99% of males lose their virginity by the age of 16. Something must be wrong with you"
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She's pretty easy to spot, some unknown woman with a join date this month posting all in L&D with no introduction? Probably Katy. In all honesty I find her persistence to be pretty amusing; all I see is a pretty sad obviously bitter person and that's not projecting either since I'll freely admit that but my coping mechanism albeit probably not healthy either isn't to try to elevate myself above someone else in order to feel better about my sh***y life
I doubt it. She's just a stuck up b***h. It's an epidemic these days. She isn't as intelligent as she thinks she is.
I just count my blessings I'm in a relationship with someone who isn't that way.